bo_sox....MAKE ME :P What are you gonna do, SHOOT ME?!??!

Fuck off...who made you the Forum Patrol Bitch? I mean....Bitch we know you are...but who said you get to be the patrol?

BTW - It is NOT a GUN thread, ASSHOLE. It's a POLICY THREAD regarding our fucking hypocritical President! Get your head out of your ass.

Mexican lives aren't as valuable, obviously.

I loved the logic. "Let's give em them guns so we can track who got them and who is doing the killing." Not a thought about innocent lives being list to those guns. No, let's just use them to find out who ysed them to kill someone else. Innocent lives only matter when they help the liberal agenda.

Guns are bad. This was also bad. There you have it.

Guns are tools. They are neither good nor bad. It's the people who wield them who determine the results of their use. Used by the minutement, they freed a new founded nation from a remote sovereign rulers oppression

They are weapons, that distinction needs to be made.

Pretty hypocritical for a the teary-eyed pres. to be so adamant about gun control here when he and his AG perpetrated Fast & Furious. Such a sham!

Oh, OK, Obama can't feel sympathy when 26 people die. That's fair.

How about the hundreds who died from munitions fired from weapons he provided to drug lords? Doesn't he feel sympathy for them?

What about the thousands that he's ordered killed with drone attacks? What about you, do you mourn for them? 26 dead and he's seizing upon their deaths to further his long held political agenda, but shows absolutely NO remorse for those that died as a result if his criminal acts and his war mongering.

ghug, they are saying his sympathy is probably linked to the politics he wants to advance, as he says nothing about dead elsewhere, killed by weapons far worse than the AR 15 used.

Situational Sympathy I guess is a good word

cause its Obama, worse then Bush

Drone attacks against terrorists and enemies of this country are necessary evils. Why should Obama feel bad about that? It's not warmongering it's protecting people like YOU and your right to your misguided beliefs about him.

Terrorists? Enemies threatening me? Whatever dude, the misguided one is you that believes a child in Afghanistan, Iraq, or any other nation we're bombing is a threat. Obama is a genocidal war criminal, like Bush before him, and Clinton before him. You can wrap your infanticide in the flag, but it doesn't make you any less of a hypocrite, like your hero Obama.

I wonder if you'd feel the same if death rained down upon you to further the geopolitical aims of the banksters. I wonder if you'd still revere their psychotic puppet?

Do you honestly think that Obama wants guns banned for any reason other than the protection of his constituents? That's just stupid. Obama would prefer not to be involved in those wars, killing those people, but pulling out suddenly would cause just as much of a loss of life and chaos, and so he's forced into a course of action. Giving guns to Mexicans is terrible and unjustifiable, but every president in our history has done terrible and unjustifiable things. It's unfair to hold him to an unfair standard just because you're pissed that someone as wonderful as Mitt Romney or Gary Johnson doesn't win.

And please don't presume that I idolize Obama. He's a politician, just like any other, which makes him automatically hard to like, and he's disgustingly conservative for a supposed liberal.

Yes, I think Obama wants guns banned because his puppet masters want the American people disarmed so that when the finally destroy our economy, we cannot rise up against them. The Banksters have been after our Republic since its inception.

Oh, alright. Several questions:
Does this economic destruction benefit Obama and/or his mythical puppet masters?
If so, how?
If not, why do it?

Is Obama going to do this with Congressional approval?
If so, how will he get approval?
If not, how will he do it?

If these puppet masters have the power to elect and control the president of the United States, why do they need the government to destroy the economy?

How can civilian access to guns counter governmental access to nuclear weapons, predator drones, and other such killing machines?

Do you realize how ridiculous you sound right now?

Please answer all of my questions, and feel free to ask some of your own. I will respond in kind.

"How can civilian access to guns counter governmental access to nuclear weapons, predator drones, and other such killing machines?"

This. Sorry folks, but no reasonably obtainable amount of firepower is going to protect you from the American government. If Obama wants you dead, you will die.

@ghug,

You obviously don't understand how power works. We're living through the single greatest transfer of wealth in human history. When you create the money, control its quantity, you create the boom/bust cycle -- and will eventually own EVERYTHING.

Do your own research, or don't, I don't really care.

Well this thread nor the OP nor myself mentioned the wars. This about gun running in Mexico and South Amaerica also known as Fast and Furious. How the fuck does that defend me again? And he didn't inherit F&F, he started it.

MichiganMan, I asked you a few simple questions to clarify your point. Are you going to answer them?

No.

Just do some research on the Fed., Debt Monetization, and what % of the US workforce is employed by the Government. That will answer all your questions.

If the Fed stop printing stimulus money, we get a deflationary depression. But, if they stop printing stimulus money, the bubble bursts, and we get hyperinflation. Open your fucking eyes! It's by design, it took 100 years for their trick to come to fruition, and 2013 is here.

I could see such research maybe answering the first one, but not the rest. Your refusal to answer suggests that you have no answers, and thus makes it very hard to take you seriously.

So then do the research, without understanding the financial aspects, you cannot understand the rest.

Alright, I'll start doing my research. Any texts you can recommend would be helpful. In the meantime, why don't you go ahead and answer my questions?

If you've not done the research into the Fed, and what is going on in the financial world, you won't understand the answers to the questions.

Read, "The Creature from Jekyll Island" BY G. Edward Griffin

Alright, I'll find an ebook copy and start reading it. Go ahead and answer the question for those more knowledgeable on economics than I.

What question?

Questions*

Which questions. You won't understand the answers, so why bother?

You know very well which questions. Honestly, I doubt that I'm as stupid as you think I am, and other people are surely more knowledgeable on the subject than I am. The fact is that if you're going to insult my beliefs and insinuate that I'm some uninformed sheeple, but you're too scared to back up your claims and risk actually having them shot down by intelligent people, you're not worth anyone's time and probably shouldn't have talked in the first place. With that said, you can either answer my questions, or shut the fuck up.

When you have MichMan muted, the last several posts from ghug are really funny! Don't worry ghug, some of us respect youy. We may disagree, but we still respect you.

And here I didn't think Draug had anyone muted.

Thanks for that Draug. I'm actually pretty close to taking your lead and muting him myself. This is really sad.

I have a few muted, CF. MichMan and TC are two. The rest are trolls who don't post anymore anyhow.

@Draug Ah will keep that in mind. Though haven't seen TC in a long time myself.

I am not scared to answer your questions by any means. It's just that your questions, by their very nature, indicate a fundamental lack of understanding of the financial and political reality. To answer your questions, so you will do more than just laugh and say, "impossible," will require an great deal of background discussion, new understanding, and abandonment of programmed propaganda on your part. These "intelligent" people of whom you speak, the ones that will shoot me down, do so with this fundamental lack of understanding. They, and you, THINK you're right, that you're knowledgeable, but you're profoundly ignorant. I don't mean that as a slight, I was in the same boat until I took responsibility for my own understanding. Everything that you believe is carefully crafted to keep you in line, docile, and moving down the path to serfdom.

Do you understand what serfdom is? Do you understand how the American experiment was the antithesis of serfdom? Do you understand the vitriol with which the ancient ruling powers view our Republic and diligently they've worked to bring us back under their rule?

We live in an illusory world, on many levels. We believe we're free, that we have laws, and checks and balances to protect us. Although those protections exist, they're being eroded, and that gnawing erosion is reaching its zenith. Why? Power and control my friend, power and control. Monetary policy is key. When you understand how a few bankers control the entire world, then you'll be on your way to seeing the struggle that in which humanity once again finds itself.