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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
21 Nov 13 UTC
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Best music video ever.....
...... nominations please with links so the judges can watch and vote on them
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
20 Nov 13 UTC
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On the banging of retards
Is it wrong if I have sex with an adult retard who gave ma a verbal OK? Can retards consent? Please hurry with responses, I'm running out of time to make a choice...
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RAZ000 (272 D(G))
23 Nov 13 UTC
One more for slow clasic
Hey all, looking for one more player for a slow (2 days) Clasic map.
Full press, 10 D by in, WTA.
gameID=129484
PM me for pass word. First come first serve.
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Celticfox (100 D(B))
18 Nov 13 UTC
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Webdiplomacy Map
Hey guys.. how many of you remember that players map Geofram made. Well here's a link to it http://www.mapservices.org/myguestmap/map/webDiplomacy. It's pretty neat to see how many people from across the world play on here.
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
22 Nov 13 UTC
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A Brief History of the early 20th century
http://www.collegehumor.com/article/6650094/facebook-news-feed-history-of-the-world-world-war-i-to-world-war-ii/page:3
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SYnapse (0 DX)
22 Nov 13 UTC
We have a saying here in texas
Fool me once, s-shame on you...

A fooled man don't get fooled again!
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dirge (768 D(B))
22 Nov 13 UTC
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Let's Stop Bullying on WebDip!
Because bullying hurts :(
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
22 Nov 13 UTC
Sitter
I could use someone to sit a game or two through midday Sunday... anyone available?

Two games max unless I missed something.
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
20 Nov 13 UTC
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Ankara Crescent Gunboat 100% VCs
The AC GB 100% VC SRG was something I ran on vDip a while ago, and it was very well received due to the novelty of the idea. The problem with it being based around novelty is, of course, that the novelty wears off, so since most vDippers have now played it the interest over there has died down. In an attempt to revive my variant (at least for a while), I'm inviting any WebDippers who want to to try it out.
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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It's Coming Back, and it's Bigger than Ever
The 2013 Player of the Year Awards!
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rollerfiend (0 DX)
05 Nov 13 UTC
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Any chess fans? World Chess Championship starts in a week.
Vishy "old Timer" Anand vs Magnus "young gun" Carlsen

It's gonna be epic.
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Maniac (189 D(B))
22 Nov 13 UTC
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How do I change my screen name?
From now on I want to be called Tues.
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Maniac (189 D(B))
22 Nov 13 UTC
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On this day 22nd November 2013
Let us take time to remember..
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dirge (768 D(B))
21 Nov 13 UTC
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conservatives and liberals self views
just thought this was interesting. don't know if there is still interest in political conversations on this forum but I just wondered what others think.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131119082933.htm
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rman98 (303 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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ATTENTION ORANGE HS
There's a world diplomacy game starting for our school. It's called "Orange High School" the password is our team's name, so random people don't join. It is anonymous.
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krellin (80 DX)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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Global Warming...It's *NOT* About the Money....
http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/20/epic-fail-un-climate-talks-fall-apart-as-132-countries-storm-out/
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SYnapse (0 DX)
21 Nov 13 UTC
Mods can read PM's
Do you send private information about yourself via PM? Mods have access to those. Are you concerned, like I am, that there is no warning when you make an account that you may be monitored?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
21 Nov 13 UTC
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I think this deserves an explanation from the spies, I mean the guilty, no sorry the crimin ..... no I mean the Mods.
SYnapse (0 DX)
21 Nov 13 UTC
According to the Data Protection Act 1998:

Personal data should only be processed fairly and lawfully. In order for data to be classed as 'fairly processed', at least one of these six conditions must be applicable to that data (Schedule 2).

1. The data subject (the person whose data is stored) has consented ("given their permission") to the processing

Well you might say, that's just English law. What does Europe say about this?
The European Court of Human Rights states that:

The data subject has the right to be informed when his personal data is being processed. The controller must provide his name and address, the purpose of processing, the recipients of the data and all other information required to ensure the processing is fair. (art. 10 and 11)

Data may be processed only under the following circumstances (art. 7):

- when the data subject has given his consent
dyager_nh (619 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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WTF reads those warnings and disclosures anyways?
Just shut up and stop putting your credit card numbers in your private messages.
Ramsu (100 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
Wait, you actually think PMs are private? You can trust sealed letters and mouth-to-mouth, but someone will always have access to your electrical "P"Ms. Deal with it.
dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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"....at least one of these six conditions...."
Only mentions one.
Vallk (904 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
This eventually comes to any online forum, of course the mods have access to them.
Just don't send personal information via PM.
Maniac (189 D(B))
21 Nov 13 UTC
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Trust me the Mods reach is far deeper than PMs, I've left a message complaining about such stuff on my answer phone and expect a reply shortly.
SYnapse (0 DX)
21 Nov 13 UTC
I also find it worrying that the mods might even be watching us while we watch TV:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25018225
Interesting point SYnapse. I have no idea about the jurisdictions here, you might be right that we need to put in a warning, or at least it would be wise.

I seem to remember that US legislation has a phrasing such as a 'reasonable expectation' of privacy, which for example a recent GMail case brought to attention. I'll leave it to y'all to debate whether or not you have a 'reasonable expectation' of privacy with PMs or not.

@Maniac the answer to your answer phone query: yes. But dont worry, he'll find a horse's head in his bed tomorrow.
SYnapse (0 DX)
21 Nov 13 UTC
Well as it's called "private" messaging.... there again you are using a moderated website...

I guess there should be a little T&Cs message/page that should cover this sort of stuff.
Probably so.
Though would you expect Facebook private messages to be unreadable by Facebook employees?
SYnapse (0 DX)
21 Nov 13 UTC
I shouldn't expect them to access my PM's unless there had been a formal complaint about harassment or whatever. Even then, its questionable as someone can make any kind of false allegations, and they have a block feature as we do.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
21 Nov 13 UTC
And you think the mods do, just for fun?
Maniac (189 D(B))
21 Nov 13 UTC
Thx MoW

For the record everything in my underpants is private, I assume everything I type in my phone, laptop etc can be accessed by "The Elites" and other lessor mortals.
Well, to be clear, only admins can access the PMs, mods cannot.

They are usually only accessed during formal researches such as, shall we say, when people set up an non-anon gunboat and then explicitly ask the mods to keep an eye out for people who cheat by circumventing the press rules. I think it's safe to say that at a moment like that you should have a 'reasonable expectation' of being examined, wuldnt you agree?
@Maniac that first part of your statement is not entirely true - you left your webcam on last night.
krellin (80 DX)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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Anyone with an expectation of private messages on a privately owner web site is a fool. Individuals with privately owned cells phones (company provided) have already been shown in courts of law that none of what they do on their company-owned cell phones is private - their "personal" text messages, email, web habits, etc. You are on a privately owned web site - you have zero right to privacy here.
SYnapse (0 DX)
21 Nov 13 UTC
I do agree MoW, however it's more the fact that this isn't stated in the rules of signing up, which makes it potentially a grey area.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
21 Nov 13 UTC
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I really hope most people don't think this is a big deal. This is a privately owned website that is free and requires no personal information to register. Furthermore, the code is completely open source. Personally, if find well-documented code much easier to understand than a legal ToS.

Compare this to what sites like Facebook or Google do, even with a ToS, and you'll see this isn't a big deal. We aren't selling or sharing anyone's information.

If someone really does feel violated, I do apologize; that certainly wasn't our intention. We're just trying to keep the site free from cheaters.

abgemacht
webDip Ombudsman
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
21 Nov 13 UTC
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Why do I feel like somebody's watching me, and I get no privacy?
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
For anyone who doesn't understand the laws in question like SYnapse, they only apply to sites or corporations that are processing or revealing your data. We do not process or reveal your data in any way. I would like to refer everyone to my post the other day about expectations of privacy that seem to falsely exist about the internet.

"@Al, I personally make an effort to let people who advocate for internet privacy know that it's just not realistic. The reason I do it isn't to be hostile, it's to help people understand what they should expect from online services.

The reason I say it's not realistic is because the internet isn't bound to any one countries laws. It's a global web, that spans billions of people. There has never been an information exchange option on this scale before, and it was designed to encourage access to information. Adding in privacy options takes away from the purpose of the internet, to make everything accessible online. Now information security is obviously important, but it has to be limited. Securing even bank information has become a monumental task because there is no such thing as an unbreakable firewall. With enough time and resources there is no such thing as secure content online. Ask the NSA, despite the best efforts of the most talented Computer Specialists information always gets out, because restricting it goes against the design of the internet.

When you sign up for an online service with an internet provider, with google, with facebook, etc, they don't promise or give false expectations of protecting your data. People just assume that their information will be secure, which is the problem. Companies like google and facebook can offer their services freely because they make money off you your information. They make money off of analyzing what you do, what you like, who you are, and how to effectively advertise and get relevant information to you as a consumer. Now they don't want any harm to come to their consumers so they generally try pretty hard to restrict access to very personal information (addresses more specific then a town, and credit card information), but everything else is game and nets them a profit. They also have to weigh the cost of adding additional layers of protection to your data against the knowledge that if someone really wants the information they can find a way to get it.

The other issue preventing secure online information regulations is lawmakers. You have laws being made by old men and women who don't understand how the internet works, who couldn't tell you how to find a subnet address off of a network, and who don't even understand where information on the internet is stored. The same goes for judges who are making rulings on anti-intrusion methods. For example, one of the most effective methods of catching hackers is a honeypot. A honeypot is effectively putting a fake network inside your companies firewall for the sole purpose of tricking hackers into accessing it. It's designed to detect ALL intrusions and since no one at your company will access it you know any intrusion is a hacker. So it's essentially like putting a trap in your house in the room closest to the front door. Everyone in the house knows not to go there, but a robber will go in and get caught. The problem, some old judge who doesn't know anything about the internet decided it sounds like entrapment and ruled them inadmissible in court in the US.

The lack of knowledge, and the inherent design on the internet make any expectation of privacy online unrealistic."
SYnapse (0 DX)
21 Nov 13 UTC
That's all well and good Jmo, but it's not factual. Websites are bound by the laws of the country they are hosted in. I presume for Kestas this is either European or U.S. law.

Data about persons cannot be taken without their consent, implicit or explicit in both these jurisdictions. It is being stored on his server and is subject to storage of information laws.

It is easily argued that for example your forum posts are implicitly public, but private messages would be considered private by reasonable persons.
SYnapse (0 DX)
21 Nov 13 UTC
Google, Facebook etc. have very length T&C pages it's just that nobody bothers to read them. You will find virtually any issue about data on Facebook is covered in their terms.
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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Have you even read the law you are quoting? The only part of the site that could possibly fall under EU law is the use of cookie codes. You think you're the first person to bring this up? This site has been around for years, the legal implications have been completely investigated. Please stop posting before your expose your complete ignorance on the topic.

Google, Facebook, etc have T&C because they process/and sell your data. That is why the laws affect them. It does not apply to sites that don't use or give out your information.
SYnapse (0 DX)
21 Nov 13 UTC
All I'm saying is that Kestas should consider putting a:

By signing up to this site, you agree to our Terms & Conditions.

Which one of them would be: moderators can access your private messages in the course of moderating the website.
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
And you emailed him that suggestion yesterday, so why did you decide to try and be an alarmist and incite other forum members over a non-issue?
Mapu (362 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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SYnapse -- if you ever read one of those, remember that your only recourse is to either quit the place or don't sign up at all if you don't like the policy. So of course you may quit at any time.
SYnapse (0 DX)
21 Nov 13 UTC
"why did you decide to try and be an alarmist and incite other forum members over a non-issue?"

I was only joking lol. Did you see the part where I said mods are watching you watch TV?
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
"Do you send private information about yourself via PM? Mods have access to those. Are you concerned, like I am, that there is no warning when you make an account that you may be monitored?"

That's not a joke, try again, and give honesty a shot this time!
SYnapse (0 DX)
21 Nov 13 UTC
"Are you concerned, like I am"

I really think you need to get out more Jay Em Oh, if you can't read the subtle humour in that tone. I really think you eat sleep and breathe keeping the streets of webDip safe from villains like me

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VirtualBob (192 D)
20 Nov 13 UTC
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EOG JCB 19 Anyone?
This was (IMO) one of the better games in this series. I'd love to hear EOG's from everyone. gameID=127384
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Putin33 (111 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
Ron and Rand Paul exposed
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/291817/20120202/ron-paul-a3p-opblitzkrieg-nazi-anonymous-jamie.htm

What's the excuse this time?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
21 Nov 13 UTC
Funny rasism .... or is it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT3eDtCZ4t8

Zoom forward to 6min 50 secs if you just want to see the violence
'2-pac insecure', what a great line.....
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
Thoughts with this man
http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_24562719/why-is-north-korea-detaining-this-california-grandfather?source=rss
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
21 Nov 13 UTC
When will it end?? Place your bets.
The 2012 Webdiplomacy World Cup is still going. Place your bets as to which date it will end! gameID=93086
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Invictus (240 D)
20 Nov 13 UTC
Obamacare
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/how-bad-have-things-gotten-obamacare_767955.html

It's shocking there isn't a thread on this yet.
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ForceIndia98 (100 D)
17 Nov 13 UTC
Anyone an F1 fan?
Just wondering
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
21 Nov 13 UTC
Forum
Although I'd like to, I can't spend 24/7 on the Forum. zultar has offered to lend a hand when I'm not around, although if things continue as they have been, I don't expect you'll see much of either of us in our official capacity. As always, please feel free to contact me if you have any concerns.
abgemacht
webDip Ombudsman
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SYnapse (0 DX)
20 Nov 13 UTC
I found Krellin's manifesto!
I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope will not be liable to the least objection:
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
19 Nov 13 UTC
Public Higher Education Should Be Free...
...discuss.

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2013/11/public-universitieshighereducation.html
92 replies
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hecks (164 D)
20 Nov 13 UTC
Open Letter to an Idiot Co-Worker
[rant] Dear idiot co-worker: When you say, "I'll be in around mid-day," most normal people assume that means before 1:00. It most certainly does not mean 3:45. Your co-workers do not enjoy sitting on their thumbs waiting for the document you promised them just so you can sit around having coffee in your jammies til 11:15 then enjoy a two-martini lunch. Sincerely, Hecks. [/rant]
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Octavious (2802 D)
19 Nov 13 UTC
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Football Night
It's that time again. The big game. The game every true Englishman has been looking forward to for what seems like ages.

There is only one thing to be said...
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Putin33 (111 D)
17 Nov 13 UTC
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Batkid Saves Gotham
Good for San Francisco

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/batkid-saves-san-francisco-turned-gotham-city-20904112
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