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bo_sox48 (5202 D Mod (G))
04 Jul 14 UTC
Happy Actual 4th of July
Let's celebrate with Diplomacy! MURICA!

gameID=144208
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
04 Jul 14 UTC
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Happy 4th July ......
...... but how much better could it have been?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1YvJBwC4xQ
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ssorenn (0 D X)
04 Jul 14 UTC
Trouble logging on from home.
I can log on to site from iPhone 4g but my home internet will not allow me to log on. It keeps saying server not responding. I can get all other sites I try just no webdip
Any suggestions?
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CommanderByron (863 D (S))
03 Jul 14 UTC
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Webdiplomacy Population
I am curious as to the demographics of this site. Things like country of residence/ origin (however you identify) , state if an American, and age/ gender. Just curious to see the type of people who are on , feel free to add more info. I'll go first
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denis (864 D)
04 Jul 14 UTC
BETTER LIVE GAMES
Is there any way to coordinate better live games, obviously this is a big part of the site
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
04 Jul 14 UTC
Feature: Min/Max DipPoints for New Games
How about being able to create new games restricted to players joining based on their max or min amount of DipPoints?
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semck83 (229 D (B))
03 Jul 14 UTC
Diplomacy questions
So, these are pretty basic questions, and I'm sure they've been asked before, so forgive me for asking them again.
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Ogion (4075 D)
03 Jul 14 UTC
Replacement Egypt needed at game start
We haven't started but our Egypt got banned
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=144117
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OutsideSmoker27 (204 D)
03 Jul 14 UTC
We're not who we appear to be: something good, bad, or indifferent?
The anonymity that is inherent in message boards like this and the consequent increased boldness or recklessness with which most of us are apt to behave as compared to how we would behave in our "real" lives leads me to wonder out loud: at what point, if ever, does this presentation of a sort of alternate personality constitute lying? And if it is a form of lying, does it matter?
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SandgooseXXI (113 D)
03 Jul 14 UTC
May it stay forever strong
Interpret the above statement below:
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mapleleaf (0 D X)
01 Jul 14 UTC
zultar, the american, is missing the point.
I actually SUPPORT my american neighbors and envy their freedom.
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denis (864 D)
03 Jul 14 UTC
Two units bounce
SO two units Bounce each other in a territory, say Munich and Burgundy bounce in Rurh during Autumn of 1904, can another unit, say Belgium or Kiel then retreat into that Territory during the Retreats Phase of Autumn 1904.
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mapleleaf (0 D X)
03 Jul 14 UTC
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For forum users, please read this here thread.
It's way better than the other one. lol.
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Maniac (189 D (B))
03 Jul 14 UTC
Well I for one am glad they're dead.
Peter Allen and Gwynne Owen - hope you don't rest in peace.

In my opinion hanging was too good for them, maybe the electric chair would have been more fitting.
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zultar (4180 D Mod (P))
02 Jul 14 UTC
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WebDiplomacy Community & Freedom of Speech
Please read.
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Gobbledydook (1389 D (B))
03 Jul 14 UTC
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Relevant xkcd:

http://xkcd.com/1357/
Gobbledydook (1389 D (B))
03 Jul 14 UTC
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I have to say though, as a veteran of this site and the forums, the vitriol has indeed become worse as the years progressed. Back then people were just as self-righteous, but their tone was much more lighthearted. You didn't use to see people being maligned in every thread they posted. I don't recall krellin being harassed about his unusual views in every thread unrelated to politics. Even mapleleaf, the resident troll, did not hound people as closely as he does today.

I think the kestas strictly-no-moderation rule had served well in the previous years, but this year I get the feeling that it's not working anymore. People have become such dicks that their crass dickwaving is putting people off.

FUCKING KEEP YOUR ARGUMENTS TO THE RELATED THREAD
semck83 (229 D (B))
03 Jul 14 UTC
Haha, we can all feel fortunate that Bohonk has taught us humility and maturity.
Jamiet99uk (761 D)
03 Jul 14 UTC
@ SYnapse: " it is a criminal offense to post grossly offensive electronic communications in the UK. Jamiet's post is incorrect, many cases have been tried over Twitter and Facebook resulting in convictions."

Notwithstanding the fact that the site is not hosted in the UK, and most of the site users are not from the UK either, I'm still not sure you're right about this even in terms of UK law, SYnapse.

In most of the cases from Facebook / Twitter that I'm aware of, charges were brought because the posted messages were inciting violence, etc - not because they were generally "offensive".

Can you post links to any of the cases you're talking about? It would help if it was clear from your links that the charges were brought under Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003, as this was the basis of your claim.

I may be wrong, and you may be right - but do you have any evidence of these convictions you're referring to?
NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
03 Jul 14 UTC
You can't outlaw thread de-railing ..... maybe it can just be done in a 'reasonable' way

Anyone like pigeons or candy floss or religion an' shit, what's your favourite food, movie, actor, actress, meal, MILF, colour, subject at school, Tea Party candidate?
SYnapse (0 D X)
03 Jul 14 UTC
See above Jamiet. I'm not going to do your research for you. There are at least 10-15 cases brought about Twitter. One was making fun of a dead person exactly akin to maple's post.
NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
03 Jul 14 UTC
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Sharia Law ..... discuss.
Is your general disposition Sunny or Shi'ite ..... it feels like the answer should naturally be the former
Jamiet99uk (761 D)
03 Jul 14 UTC
When you answer, bear in mind that both the Crown Prosecution Service, and the Director of Public Prosecutions, issued significantly updated guidance in late 2012, as a direct result of complaints that prosecutors were trying to use the Communications Act 2003 to bring spurious prosecutions for crap that people were posting on Twitter.

In December 2012 the Director of Public Prosecutions said that Section 127 should *not* be used to bring charges for online comments which were: "offensive, shocking or disturbing; or satirical, iconoclastic or rude; or the expression of unpopular; or unfashionable opinion about serious or trivial matters, or banter or humour, even if distasteful to some or painful to those subjected to it"

So it would seem to me that until 2012 it was possible for people to be charged under Section 127 in the way you have claimed. I would suggest however that this is no longer the case, because the official guidelines have changed, and it is clear that such prosecutions were *not* what the Act was intended for.

Any links to cases, if you can provide them, should therefore be based on charges brought *after* December 2012.
Jamiet99uk (761 D)
03 Jul 14 UTC
^ Sorry, that was for SYnapse ^
Jamiet99uk (761 D)
03 Jul 14 UTC
I've done some research, SYnapse, and I can only find one case brought after the prosecution guidelines were changed.
SYnapse (0 D X)
03 Jul 14 UTC
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K. I'm happy for you.
SYnapse (0 D X)
03 Jul 14 UTC
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/30/twitter-abuse-man-arrested_n_3677596.html this is 2013, over twitter.
Jamiet99uk (761 D)
03 Jul 14 UTC
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Here is the BBC story on the outcome of that case:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25641941

You are right that it was brought under the Communications Act 2003. However, the two defendents in this case were guilty of more than just posting offensive messages. They both threatened Caroline Criado-Perez with actual physical harm. The man involved threatened to track her down and rape her. The case was about actual threats to cause harm in real life - it wasn't just because the messages were somehow "offensive" - they included actual threats of violence.

That is in no way analogous to what Mapleleaf has done on this forum. Not the same at all.
josunice (3702 D (S))
03 Jul 14 UTC
Late to this thread, so like my wife, read the first two pages, found the prose wanting, so skipped to the end. I will say with Krellin muted, Jamie's point of butchering a thread unfolds right here in this thread.

I agree with Commander that threads should be categorized to Game Play and General Community so one could filter - is this a matter of technology, funds or time? Can we bring back to the forum the dev priorities and work thread?

The current light moderation and mute functions are fine for the speech question, but I believe the real community problem is the current format makes it hard to have diplomacy threads as they get buried quickly or the forum noise chases away people from even trying.
josunice (3702 D (S))
03 Jul 14 UTC
Prioritize filtering Game Play from General Community posts...
NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
03 Jul 14 UTC
Maybe a few more people need to get laid, then they can bring a bit more levity to the forum rather than all of their pent up frustrations ..... that should be in the rules !!
Jamiet99uk (761 D)
03 Jul 14 UTC
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Are you offering your services, Nigee?
NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
03 Jul 14 UTC
In a nutshell ..... yes.
Only downside is, nutshell is very small..... story of my life :-)
Regarding splitting the forums, I can understand the appeal, but the demand question is curious. Obviously there's interest expressed in this thread in it, so to say "there's no demand for this" is incorrect and, honestly, kind of insulting in a thread specifically inviting comments and suggestions.

Yet at the same time... I don't see the drowning-out effect some of y'all are mentioning here. From my view of the forum, it looks like we don't see Diplomacy-related threads on here because no one posts them, not because they get posted and then drowned out by the Diplomacy-unrelated threads.

On this particular front I tend to be more of the DIY school of thought: if you want to see more Diplomacy discussions, ask a question or post a premise about Diplomacy in a new thread on the forum, and it'll almost surely happen. When they're posted, these discussions tend to go pretty well in my experience. They just don't happen because no one really bothers. Again, obviously demand is being expressed in this thread, but outside of it I just haven't seen it.

Indeed the fact that the forum is predominantly unrelated to Diplomacy speaks more to me about the essential character of it; people just plain want to talk about things that aren't related to Diplomacy more than things that are. I think splitting the forum would just lead to one barren section with sparse discussions of Diplomacy and then another section essentially unchanged from what we have now. The issue seems more to be that Diplomacy isn't discussed than that it's crowded out, and while I can understand that point of view, there's just not much in the way of a top-down solution. We could ban non-Diplomacy discussion like other sites, but that would just kill the forum and thus a large part of the site overnight. We could split the forums but that won't affect the supply & demand of Diplomacy threads. Honestly I think the only solution is bottom-up, create more Diplomacy threads and the forum will feature more Diplomacy discussion. In that respect I'd be happy to help, I love a good Diplomacy discussion.
NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
03 Jul 14 UTC
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My oh my, PE has grown up all of a sudden ..... all of that silly behaviour was just pretend, let's make Ghug a Mod and see if lightning can strike twice on the same forum :-)
Draugnar (0 D X)
03 Jul 14 UTC
I could see splitting it when trying to start up new games. Those threads often get bumped regularly because it takes time. So a "private games forming" forum might be useful.


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CommanderByron (863 D (S))
02 Jul 14 UTC
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College
So I am a high school graduate, and a college student come august. While I am aware of the benefits to college; I am curious as to how college or lack there of has affected anyone else. Looking for more perspective.
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krellin (80 D X)
03 Jul 14 UTC
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You Guys....
I love you guys. All of you. No. Really! I do!! <smooches>

Here's to a brighter, kinder me...
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krellin (80 D X)
02 Jul 14 UTC
The Quantum Shift
...<chew on this>...
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krellin (80 D X)
03 Jul 14 UTC
Help for the Overly Sensitive
I a further effort to help those insensitive...er...I mean overly sensitive virgin eyes that enjoy this blessed place, please avail yourself of this wonderful protective gear:
http://www.woot.com/offers/protect-yourself-1?ref=cnt_wp_9_3
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
02 Jul 14 UTC
Changing your mind
Is it a sign of weakness or strength.
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abgemacht (1076 D (G))
02 Jul 14 UTC
Need A Replacement For France
I'm looking for an active, respected player to partner with the remaining French player in our Dummy trial game (gameID=143236). If you aren't familiar with this game, each country has 2 players that equally share control (press, moves, etc). Let me know if you're interested.
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SYnapse (0 D X)
30 Jun 14 UTC
Ramadan
Anyone else doing this? I was challenged by my Muslim friends at work, damn I'm hungry.
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krellin (80 D X)
02 Jul 14 UTC
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Whiny-A** B*tches!!
http://online.wsj.com/articles/new-york-court-strikes-down-cyberbullying-law-1404239912?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

That's right, you are all a bunch of whiny ass bitches and there's not a damned thing you can do about it. Suck on that :P
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Sevyas (869 D)
13 Mar 14 UTC
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2014 - 7 games wta series
As the initial thread is closed but the tournament is still running, here a new thread for general tournament announcements, pause requests, ranking, ...
Let's keep this one alive

Old thread: http://www.webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=1092719#1092719
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FineRedMist (108 D)
30 Jun 14 UTC
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Who's the least intelligent puppy-kicking child-fucker on this forum?
A) Draugnar
B) krellin
C) ssorenn
D) FineRedMist
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ILN (100 D)
02 Jul 14 UTC
Nice game if you're interested
Don't know if this is spam or not, not selling paintings or anything - just a recommendation.

Link and description below:
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semck83 (229 D (B))
30 Jun 14 UTC
Hobby Lobby
The US Supreme Court has just (ten minutes ago) upheld Hobby Lobby's right, under religious conscience, not to provide contraception coverage to its employees.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-354_olp1.pdf
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Jamiet99uk (761 D)
26 Jun 14 UTC
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Proportionate response?
Earlier this month, three Israeli teenagers went missing in the occupied West Bank. Israeli authorities allege that Hamas abducted them. Hamas has stated that this is untrue and that they are not responsible.
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semck83 (229 D (B))
29 Jun 14 UTC
Cuba
Has anybody been? Is it this bad?

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/sunday-commentary/20140627-the-last-communist-city.ece
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abgemacht (1076 D (G))
01 Jul 14 UTC
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True Friends Stab You In The Front EOG
gameID=142294

Thanks for the game, everyone. Not particularly well played by myself; I made at least 2 serious blunders and probably should have been eliminated, but it was still great fun.
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