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MaximillianTheFirst (0 DX)
05 Apr 15 UTC
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Westeros Diplomacy
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/829950/game-thrones-diplomacy-variant

I can't be the only ASOIAF fan who wants this.
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
28 Mar 15 UTC
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R.I.P. MadMarx
(March 27, 2008 – March 27, 2015)

Eulogy / “End of webDiplomacy” within
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JamesYanik (548 D)
07 Apr 15 UTC
Social Classes
Are social classes good? And I don't this turning to political discussion, I just want to know whether a concentration of wealth in a select few is good for society as a whole. Have we simply never seen social classes in an unabused system?
33 replies
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taipan (100 D)
09 Apr 15 UTC
Surrendering and deleting finished games from the list of games
I am now playing here for about a month and have not been able to find out : (1) how to surrender from a game and (2) how to delete finished games from the list of games I am playing. Can someone help me please ? It must be very easy I suppose ! ;-) LOL
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Mapu (362 D)
09 Apr 15 UTC
Google Translate Game
I'm getting a Google Translate game going on vdip -- please check it out and join. Could be fun.
1 reply
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thdfrance (187 D)
09 Apr 15 UTC
Masters Weekend
Hoffman's 5 under after the first round, Schwartzel made the first eagle, what else does the weekend have in store?
9 replies
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Apr 15 UTC
Tsarnaev Guilty
The verdict comes in quickly and justice is done. May he rot.

http://tinyurl.com/qf8s26p
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yassem (2533 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
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"Getting Myself McFired"
So I just read this.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/getting-myself-mcfired
What an act of great bravery exposing the rotten core of capitalism, right?
18 replies
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
09 Apr 15 UTC
Right to be Forgotten vs Freedom of Speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD37vwUD8Us
Discuss.
7 replies
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jbalcorn (429 D)
09 Apr 15 UTC
NSA Surveillance
How to get Americans to care that their government is engaging in illegal spying. www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M
1 reply
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Lanium (100 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
JamesYanik: banned
Meta/No reply. Good riddance?
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TheMinisterOfWar (509 D)
09 Apr 15 UTC
The Dutch are the pinnacle of evolution
http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2015/04/did-natural-selection-make-dutch-tallest-people-planet

Science, so it's true.
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Ges (292 D)
03 Apr 15 UTC
Thoughts on Modern Diplomacy II?
Hello, I'm returning to WebDipWorld after an absence of several years. I am interested to know what the community thinks of this Modern Dip II variant. Is it enjoyable? Fairly balanced? (I don't expect perfection from a variant . . . )

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
01 Apr 15 UTC
The waitress breasts
As above, below.
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
06 Apr 15 UTC
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Game 3 of The Leagues is up
Links are all here https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/The-php-League/leagues-winter-2015

PW's are all teams Duke has beaten in March Madness. No spaces. Sorry I'm not as creative as the Star Wars themed one.
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2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
08 Apr 15 UTC
Lost Day
At 4:53 and 42 seconds today (if you use American date and a 24 hour clock) the time and date will officially be 4-8-15-16-23-42.
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EmmaGoldman (1001 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
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new game
Classic Game 25; needs 3 more players, its a p-p-s.c., 50 bet, and it will be fun!
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chluke (12292 D(G))
05 Apr 15 UTC
Building in occupied center that is simultaneously disband
Can you build in a home territory occupied by another country's unit IF simultaneously during that build phase the occupying unit disbands?
9 replies
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Crazy Anglican (1075 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
In-Game Mute button
If you mute everyone in a gunboat game. Will they ever know you did it?
4 replies
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Puddle (428 D)
07 Apr 15 UTC
Diplomacy (Game) Theory
Question about signaling in the comments.
14 replies
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jbalcorn (429 D)
07 Apr 15 UTC
Question: How can you review old private messages in a game?
I've been gone for 5 years and I forgot....
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Kallen (1157 D)
05 Apr 15 UTC
WISCOONNSSSIIIIINN!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! APOAFINW:EGKVNDLBK>JANFILEQJKNV:ADLNK>EAVDFBHQV SDHOQBELHKV DS>KCLHBFEUHADJ <VJLHIBQELHDVK!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yassem (2533 D)
03 Apr 15 UTC
Hapy Great Friday!
Jews 1:0 Christians
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
06 Apr 15 UTC
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STP-SYR or Bust EOG
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
06 Apr 15 UTC
6 way draw?! What poor bastard got left out-OH.
Man you got triple teamed in the first 5 minutes.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
06 Apr 15 UTC
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A very fun game all around and the closest I've come to a solo in a long time. Thanks to everyone for playing.

I knew the only chance I had early game was to get everyone against Turkey. I was pretty sure I could convince Italy to Lepanto with me, but I wasn't sure what Russia's true plans were, especially with him moving to GAL that first turn. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and threw everything at Turkey, which paid off nicely. Russia was a bit greedy when it came to Turkish centers, but it didn't bother me at all, since it was all at Italy's expense and it meant I had his support against Turkey while being able to keep Italy weak with no consequences for me. Overall, I was very happy with how the early game went.

After Turkey was gone, though, Russia was becoming very strong and there was really no one to oppose him. I had a very difficult choice of finishing off Italy and firming up the Russian border and moving against France. This would have made for a safe 3-way, as I don't think Russia would have had the units to attack me successfully. Instead, though, I chose to move against him and make peace with Italy in the hopes of giving myself an opportunity to solo.

My war with Russia went very well and thankfully England and Germany refused to come to terms with one another. It really looked like a had a shot, but, unfortunately, Italy couldn't get to Iberia, which meant I knew my 18th center was never going to be Tun. This made things much harder as it meant I needed somehow to get MUN and BER, which seemed very unlikely.

There were then a few very unpleasant years where no one except Italy would talk to me. It was very lonely. Finally, I got my comm channels back open and arranged to fall back with my units to entice England and France to eliminate Germany. The plan worked, but I was not quick enough to response. I should have anticipated England jumping the gun and moved back into position in 1908 rather than falling back more. That would have given me the win. Instead, I was only able to take MUN.

I spent a lot of time talking to Germany, but once it became clear he wouldn't give me the game to spite England, I decided to draw instead of falling back again for a smaller draw. Again, a very fun game. I hope everyone enjoyed it as much as I did.
TrPrado (461 D)
06 Apr 15 UTC
And to think, STP-SYR never happened.
JamesYanik (548 D)
06 Apr 15 UTC
bust
steephie22 (182 D(S))
06 Apr 15 UTC
Did you consider falling back again so people could be eliminated from the draw, abge?
JamesYanik (548 D)
06 Apr 15 UTC
don't respond to this thread they misled us
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
06 Apr 15 UTC
Yes, but I didn't think it was worth the time. I suspect I would have had to spend at least one year pulling back. Even then, I'm not sure they'd be willing to eliminate them.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
06 Apr 15 UTC
added to the webDipEOG repository (threadID=1234163)
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EOG from Turkey (sorry it's a bit short):
I got pwnd. I originally wanted to open with a Pitchfork opening against Russia and asked for a DMZ of the Black Sea which he agreed to. Then we both moved to the Black Sea. Italy and Austria never gave me any words more than empty nods of their heads and from the onset the Key Lepanto was obvious and I couldn't say anything to turn them around so starting in the Fall of 1901 I unironically and 100% committed against the I/A hoping Russia would forgive my transgression and not want a particularly powerful Austria. It turns out he was OK with the latter and the former never happened and when I/A/R go in on T and there's no external pressure on the I/A I got destroyed. And then Abge couldn't seal the deal and make me feel silly as the only person who didn't get into the draw =(

Sorry I don't have more detailed notes, or, you know, more impact on the game...happy to answer questions though.
jmspool (100 D)
06 Apr 15 UTC
Vallis: I'm game. What's a Pitchfork opening? Initial search couldn't find anything of the sort.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
06 Apr 15 UTC
In this case, it's when Valis gets pitchforked by all three neighbors. : )
mrh308 (197 D)
06 Apr 15 UTC
Diplom.org's library calls it the Crimean Crusher. A pitchfork is roughly the shape the movement arrows make. Move to Bul, Blk, and Arm.
jmspool (100 D)
06 Apr 15 UTC
Oh, I felt the wrath of that at the Templecon Tournament.
rdrivera2005 (3533 D(G))
06 Apr 15 UTC
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It was a really interesting game and it should have never gone too close to an Austrian solo. If Austria moved back one single bit faster he would have soloed.
This said, it was an interesting game. I was in the defense most game, after enging 1901 with an English fleet on EC and a German army on Bur. I lost Mars in 1902 and take Ven to make up for the loss (and get an angry Italy that choose to suicide on me).
When it seems I would follow Valis soon, then Germany decide to stab England and I got some space to try to hold my corner (Sherincall was the closest thing I have to an ally during all the game and I never want to eliminate him).
Then I made some bad choice and didn´t take Mars back and decided to go after England in the same turn Italy came after me. Have to make peace with England and deal with Italy (play defense again).
Then it was clear that Austrian will do a solo run and that he was using Italy as a puppet. I manage to coordenate well with Russia and we built a stalemate line on the south and Germany and England also had a stalemate line on Mun/Ber. Then Austria moved back and England and Russia believed that he wants a smaller draw, something pretty lame to do, as he could have soloed if he moves one unit faster or if Germany had lost his mind. Anyway, Germany hold Ber and with Italy on Tun we have a stalemate line and our 6-way draw (sorry Valis).
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
06 Apr 15 UTC
Yeah its a term I've heard in F2F for Crimean Crusher
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
07 Apr 15 UTC
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I rather forget the early game as the end just became so drab and drawn out, so I'm just going off my memory here.

From the very start the aim was to clear Turkey out instantly. I worked on trying to get both Austria and Italy to go with the Key Lepanto opening so that Turkey would come crawling to me no matter how he'd opened, and they both agreed to it. Sure enough, Turkey went all out on me and then came straight back to me. So far, so good. England and I had a rather uneasy arrangement as he really disliked my tapping of Norway, despite never supporting ymself in, which I was only doing to ensure I held Sweden against the E/G.

The original AIR got progressively weaker on the Italian side though, as he went with two fleets rather 1 army 1 fleet as we recommended in 1901, and he promptly lost Venice to France in 1902. With his cuckolding and his weakness on the West, I tried to convince Austria to take him out with me and just progress to an A/R by 1903. Whilst Austria agreed, clearly he wasn't that interested.

We'd both been in conversation with Germany, under the pretence of adding him to the A/R, when really it was clearly both of us just wanted Germany on side. My relations with England were pretty strained as he hated my constant tapping of Norway (something I really only did to protect Sweden, as I didn't support myself in til I had to to get Germany on side). In the end, both Germany and I opted to side with Austria, as I knew that if Austria stabbed me he'd never break the stalemate line due to Italy's weakness, and that with France's stubborn resistance and England being stabbed by Germany so the West was a mess, I might have a shot at soloing in the long run.

Sadly Austria then made that stab anyway, which dispelled any long-term ambitions for anything more than a draw. While the initial three-way attack on me looked dire, I quickly came to the conclusion that England and Germany hadn't in fact made a peace to go for me, and was able to convince England to ally up with me and support me against Germany. I thus wrote off my home centres and tried to shore up Scandinavia and Turkey - the latter failing when I chanced the bounce on Armenia and thus failed to take Constantinople in 1905 - but with STP secure and England now proving himself a solid ally, I was still pretty comfortable we'd get a 4 way draw with Austria and the incredibly stubborn France.

At this point the game quality rapidly declined. Italy stopped talking to anyone except Austria from what I gather, and was a mindless puppet that briefly worried us that Austria might be able to solo after all, but some quick thinking by France and I got me into Tunis and killed that off before it started, as from there I was able to get into the WMed and we had a stalemate line in the south secure, in addition to STP already being tied up.

That only left the German front, which led to some dumb theatrics. Germany had done a decent job forcing us to keep him alive originally, so Abge decided to go with the fall-back, which I was fine with because I really didn't want Italy to get into the draw after he'd gone silent on everyone. Thus followed a horribly botched attempt by England & France (not following the plan I suggested) to actually eliminate Germany that cost us Munich and thus required Italy's Tunis to be part of the stalemate after all. I quickly backed out and threw support holds at Germany so he wouldn';t throw the game, and even Italy accepted the support holds on Tunis from France and I, so Abge drew it out one last painful year and finally we ended up with a 6WD. A rather disappointing result after the early promise and fun, and the late-game (essentially every year after I'd got into the WMed and the Med front was stalemated) was really quite drab.

uclabb (589 D)
07 Apr 15 UTC
Boo for soft draws
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
07 Apr 15 UTC
:( I gotta work on my begging...
JamesYanik (548 D)
07 Apr 15 UTC
what's with the title of the thread???
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Apr 15 UTC
@uclabb

The game was over. As I said, I could have pulled back but, it would have taken at least another year, if not two, to get far enough away. Ultimately, it would have accomplished nothing.
rdrivera2005 (3533 D(G))
07 Apr 15 UTC
Well, I would take the stubborn as a praise :-)
And just for the record, I didn´t attempt to take out Germany. It was too risky and I want Austria to eliminate Italy first (for the same reasons Russia told, he was just not comunicating the whole game). Germany deserver a lot more then Italy to be in the final draw. When England decided to attack Germany no matter what I said I tried to avoid him throwing the game to Austria and it was really close.
uclabb (589 D)
07 Apr 15 UTC
The reason why solos are so uncommon is that 1 center powers expect to get these BS soft draws. The site would be so so much better if the meta was that small powers would get eliminated unless they carved out a place for themselves in the draw, as the end game would be much more interesting and strategic.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Apr 15 UTC
Both Germany and Italy convinced me that they would rather die than give me the solo. Perhaps they were lying, but I believed them. I told Germany straight up that I was falling back again so he could be eliminated and get he didn't relent.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Apr 15 UTC
Also, being on the other end more often than not, I can absolutely tell you that 1 center powers don't just assume they'll be saved by a soft draw. I have threatened and followed through with throwing the game many times because I knew I wouldn't be in the draw.
uclabb (589 D)
07 Apr 15 UTC
So eliminate them abge! Why should they bend to your threats if you don't even follow through
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Apr 15 UTC
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Because I have a life and eliminating people to thin out the draw isn't fun.


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mendax (321 D)
06 Apr 15 UTC
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Well-kept gardens die of Pacifism
http://lesswrong.com/lw/c1/wellkept_gardens_die_by_pacifism/

As i was reading this piece, it was webdip that immediately came to mind.
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President Eden (2750 D)
30 Mar 15 UTC
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R.I.P. President Eden
(12 May 2010 - 30 March 2015)

Eulogy / "End of webDiplomacy" within
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
06 Apr 15 UTC
Rolling Stone
Am I wrong here?
6 replies
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semck83 (229 D(B))
07 Apr 15 UTC
Should Mom-and-Pops That Forgo Gay Weddings Be Destroyed?
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/should-businesses-that-quietly-oppose-gay-marriage-be-destroyed/389489

Discuss.
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KingCyrus (511 D)
05 Apr 15 UTC
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The Religious State
Having seen many opinions on this forum, I am wondering about the acceptability of a religious state. Should a state be able to be primarily Muslim, Jewish, or Christian (etc.)? Is this acceptable in the modern world? If so, how far can this theocracy of sorts go? May they make laws based upon the respective religion? How far reaching should these laws be?

Please discuss, and remain amicable.
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trip (696 D(B))
27 Mar 15 UTC
Gunboat Means Never Having to Say You're Sorry
101pt, 36hr, WTA, Semii-anon. This game is for non-vigina slayers only. Sign up inside...
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