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Tolstoy (1962 D)
27 Oct 13 UTC
Any dog lovers here?
Every 98 minutes, a dog is shot by law enforcement. Help us tell their stories.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1850434439/puppycide-the-documentary
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Oct 13 UTC
A Crazy Ending to Game 3 of the World Series--Cardinals Win on an Obstruction Call
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=009oTwaaXEs
St. Louis goes up 2-1 in the Series in one of oddest endings in WS history.
Decide for yourself--good call, or were the Red Sox robbed?
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Yonni (136 D(S))
28 Oct 13 UTC
Lou Reed dead at 71
http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/lou-reed-dead-at-71-1.2253579

Big loss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkbpmFOuKrc
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philcore (317 D(S))
28 Oct 13 UTC
who's in ft lauderdale florida for the next two days and wants a drink on philcore?
I'll buy you a drink if I know who you are (from here, that is - obviously if I knew you IRL I'd just call you ) and want to meet up somewhere close to where I'm staying.

I'm a lot of fun to meet up with when I'm on vacation. Nigee can confirm.
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semck83 (229 D(B))
22 Oct 13 UTC
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Putin33 the liar
In another thread ("Hey guys... another school shooting"), putin33 asked me for evidence that he makes things up out of whole cloth to support his rhetoric.
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y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
27 Oct 13 UTC
Open world gunboat position
gameID=127090

Solid South Africa just went CD, someone jump in!
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
NFL Pick 'em: Week 8--the Niners in London Town, Romo/Stafford, and the Pack Back on SNF
So I missed posting for Thursday Night Football...but if everyone didn't already have the PANTHERS over the Bucs anyway...get out. Elsewhere, the Niners look to crush, erm, stomp, erm, play the Jaguars in a highly competitive game in Wembley Stadium (who do we always give London the bad games?) Romo's Cowboys and Stafford's Lions both have something to prove, the Vikings have to find a QB, all this and more, so, Week 8--PICK 'EM!
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sirdallas (1202 D)
27 Oct 13 UTC
Come join the American Burger Joint.
We need 4 more players for ANcient Med.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
26 Oct 13 UTC
Crusader Kings 2 choosing which character to play
I can't choose.
I have Islamic expansion and the Rome-thingy and some other stuff.
What characters are a blast? I have had much fun with all the Spanish king brothers but I'm done with them. What else?
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josunice (3702 D(S))
27 Oct 13 UTC
No Press is Best - @125 GB series
GB tourney going well, but looking for more action.
gameID=128176 gameID=128177 gameID=128178
more to come if these fill...
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gnuvag (621 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
What's the point?
What's the point?
gnuvag (621 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
I've been playing for a while now (28 games), and recently came to the realisation that I'm not really sure what my overall aim is.

Should I be attempting to win more games, but maybe risk losing more in the process?

Is it better to win a game whilst betraying some or all of your allies, or settle for a draw and not stab anyone?

Should I not stab allies at all (which I think some people claim to do?), or should I merrily stab people as often as is necessary? Should people I stab accept it as part of the game and be happy to play future games with me? Or are they right to be unhappy/angry?

Should I be happy with a high percentage of draws?

Is a two- or three-way draw "worth" more than a four- or five-way draw?

Is a strong survive "worth" more than, say, a five-way draw?

Should I be playing WTA rather than PPSC?

Should I care about how many points I have at all?

Should I be trying to improve my Ghost Rating?

Anything else I haven't considered?

Would be very grateful for any thoughts/opinions on the subject!
Invictus (240 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
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President Eden (2750 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
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just imagine what he's like with a sandbox game...
WarLegend (1747 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
Why don't you just do what makes you happy. It is a game, after all.
SantaClausowitz (360 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
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Diplomacy nihilist
Diplomacy is more like a sport than like a computer game, in that you have overall ranking. What you do in one game has little bearing on another, so maximise your outcome each individual game, rather than thinking about the whole.

When you maximise, win is better than draw, draw is better than lose (duh). You will notice stabbing is not in that list, so if you can improve outcome by a stab, do so! (Though I'm of the school of thought that stabs work in your disadvantage diplomatically (people indeed get angry), so they should mostly be used decisively when you finish a player).

Read the rules on how WTA, PPSC, GhostRating are calculated. Then remember or forget them as you see fit.

My two cents.
gnuvag (621 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
Thanks for the response, Minister.

I suppose the thing is, being naturally competitive, that I want to do the best I can - both in individual games and overall performance - just struggling to work out how to define it.

And yes, of course, to have fun while doing it!
Maniac (189 D(B))
26 Oct 13 UTC
Firstly have fun
Then try never to CD and keep NMR to minimum
Communicate, communicate, communicate
Try to make right decisions, even if they turn out wrong.
Try to solo, if not aim for a good draw, survive if you can and if you can't try to be a thorn in the side of guy who stabbed you
Points and GR are just a way of keeping score on the right decisions, they shouldn't influence your decisions IMHO
Don't let anything undermine the enjoy the game rule. Often I play as if we were a bunch of friends at my house. If I'm a shoe in for the solo, I'm happy to end the game early. I have moral victory without rubbing my friends nose in the dirt. Others are more competitive on here and don't treat their foes as friends. That's fine also.
I recommend playing anonymous games where possible. If you're good at this game, you'll start making enemies and people will know you're not a good ally to have in a pinch.
Have fun.
Stick to WTA. When you play WTA you win or you die - there's more motivation to win.

Don't quit a game just because you're losing. Fight on to the bitter end. If nothing else you'll get the respect of the other players.

Try playing Gunboat games. Having to work out which moves your allies/enemies will make in order to support or thwart them will increase your strategic and tactical skills, making you a better player.

Play anonymous games. Then players you've stabbed in the past won't be distracted by the need for revenge or be unwilling to ally themselves with you because of your past. That works both ways of course.
@dD: Damn. Should have "refreshed" before I posted.
Draugnar (0 DX)
26 Oct 13 UTC
The order of Diplomacy:

Solo
If you can't Solo, stop the Solo and be in the Draw
If you can't be in the Draw, play kingmaker to punish those determined to see you fall. Doesn't matter if you survive or are defeated, just make certain the dicks that did you in get nothing for it.

On the topic of what to play, you will gat a variety of opinions as to why WTA is better or PPSC is better. I prefer WTA because people play it like the board game. When there is no points for second place, it's more like the board game where there are no points at all.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
26 Oct 13 UTC
Don't play anonymous games, get to know your enemy, learn how they play, attempt to use that to outplay them. Don't play anonymously with people you've decided are not enjoyable to play against. Have fun. Stab when you need to, expect your stabbed ally to know that this is part of the game (and they should have seen it coming) Stab rarely (so they don't see it coming...)
orathaic (1009 D(B))
26 Oct 13 UTC
Also 1 D or D or point is a Dagger, which is used for stabbing (usually in the back)
gnuvag (621 D)
27 Oct 13 UTC
Thanks for the responses, good to hear different opinions.

Virtually all of my games have been PPSC so far - I think it will be interesting to switch to playing mostly WTA to see how that changes strategy, outcomes, etc. - and I like the fact that that's more like the original board game.

Playing anonymously (vs not) is an interesting one. In one respect I like playing against the same people repeatedly, and learning their strategies/abilities/preferences can be an advantage or a disadvantage, but is always interesting. And I've certainly annoyed a few people that I've played with by stabbing them, though I'm still not sure whether to feel guilty or not. Then again, playing anonymously can be quite a different challenge, having no idea who you're playing with, or their relative skills/motivations.

As for gunboat, I like the different type of challenge that it offers, but for me it significantly reduces the enjoyment of the game, as it takes out one of the key elements. I think all the elements of communication, psychology, persuasion, coercion, fooling, bluff, collaboration, etc., etc. are what marks this game out as unique compared to virtually anything else I've played. So to play without that - for me - really diminishes the quality of the game. (Although I do understand that it's a good way to hone your skills in tactical thinking.)

Live games - I've only played two, and been defeated badly in both, so clearly in need of some work there. Unless, of course, my opponents were cheating, which seems to be an accusation often levelled at people (in live games in particular?).

And in terms of the ethics of game-playing - I absolutely agree with above posters - I'll try never to NMR, CD, etc. and will always fight to the bitter end.


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Danny (100 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
Modern Diplomacy game - needs 9 more players!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=128157
Modern Europe map
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Xildur (2284 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
Cancelling A Game
In this game: gameID=127824
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JECE (1248 D)
18 Oct 13 UTC
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You are posting the same message again, please don't post repeat messages.
I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, but this useful feature which prevents your browser from posting your messages repeatedly when you did not intend to do so is missing something; it is missing a semicolon.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
25 Oct 13 UTC
GTA 5, Call of Duty Ghosts or Battlefield 4 (all PC)
See inside.
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ILN (100 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
Way to happiness
Unhappy? Depressed? Discontent? Just "not feeling it"?
Well wait no more! The happiness agency is here!

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_VENEZUELA_DEPARTMENT_OF_HAPPINESS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-10-25-15-29-24
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MarchKing (113 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
PassWord
I'm new to wedDiplomacy. P-Word will not let me join.....It's the same one I log into the site, right? What am I missing???

Thanks!
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shield (3929 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
Winning:
I've been playing for some time now. Lately I am usually the biggest player in or close to and get forces into a draw. Any advice for turning this into more wins?
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
21 Oct 13 UTC
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Americans, wake up
http://progressivevoices.com/white-house-on-french-nsa-complaint-all-nations-spy/ Your nation is losing its grip. I know I've brought it up a couple of times but one day, years from now, hell's going to break lose and you're all gonna say: there was this guy on webdip who wouldn't shut up about the US becoming more and more inward.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
26 Oct 13 UTC
Could be worse .... you could be female in Saudi Arabia
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24658753
Our good friends the Saudis are up to their old tricks again, and just when you thought it was only gays and blacks that were still oppressed
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
26 Oct 13 UTC
Special Bible Verse of the Day
The latest in an occasional posting of a special Bible verse.
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Hannibal01 (100 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
Does everyone cheat in this game?
Once again, I am playing a game in which there are "anonymous" players, and no "in game" messaging, and there is obvious collaboration. Is this standard? Do players believe that because it only states "no in game" messaging that it is okay to have "out of game" messaging?
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dirge (768 D(B))
25 Oct 13 UTC
voting rights
Yeah i think the voting rights act was a good thing, but am I the only one who wonders why liberals take it as fact that some people can not be expected to go get picture id card?
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
Drawing/canceling a game in gunboat
What is the etiquette for one player missing several turns in gunboat? Several? When is a draw appropriate and when is a cancel? Is it bad form to do nothing or to change when you start winning?
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President Eden (2750 D)
23 Oct 13 UTC
why do you hate freedom.
yes, you. why?

why.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
25 Oct 13 UTC
It Took Three Days
For someone else to shoot it up. Just saying, guys. Can't say nothing's wrong here; you and I both know that's bullshit. Thankfully not a fatal incident.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/10/24/shooter-at-us-navybasecaptured.html
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Yonni (136 D(S))
25 Oct 13 UTC
Reflektor
To get you through Friday, here's a link of a stream of Arcade Fire's new album. 90 goddamn minutes long but I've really enjoyed the single so far so I'm looking forward to this:
http://m.rollingstone.com/music/news/stream-arcade-fires-reflektor-20131024
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
25 Oct 13 UTC
Poverty effective form of abuse.
Quality of life? motherboard.vice.com/blog/growing-up-poor-is-bad-for-your-brain
Science!
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fokkothebarbarian (100 DX)
24 Oct 13 UTC
Playing with 2 accounts
I am playing with some friends the online game of Modern Diplomacy.
One of our friends has stepped out of the game. He gave his password to another player/friend so that he can play for him. So this player is now playing under his own account and also on the other account of the friend who is already out of the game. Our question now is, is this allowed?
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COTW (836 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
Replacement player needed
Game just started, zero phases missed!

Please join as Quebec
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=127854
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