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Tolstoy (1962 D)
27 Oct 13 UTC
Any dog lovers here?
Every 98 minutes, a dog is shot by law enforcement. Help us tell their stories.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1850434439/puppycide-the-documentary
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Oct 13 UTC
A Crazy Ending to Game 3 of the World Series--Cardinals Win on an Obstruction Call
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=009oTwaaXEs
St. Louis goes up 2-1 in the Series in one of oddest endings in WS history.
Decide for yourself--good call, or were the Red Sox robbed?
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Yonni (136 D(S))
28 Oct 13 UTC
Lou Reed dead at 71
http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/lou-reed-dead-at-71-1.2253579

Big loss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkbpmFOuKrc
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philcore (317 D(S))
28 Oct 13 UTC
who's in ft lauderdale florida for the next two days and wants a drink on philcore?
I'll buy you a drink if I know who you are (from here, that is - obviously if I knew you IRL I'd just call you ) and want to meet up somewhere close to where I'm staying.

I'm a lot of fun to meet up with when I'm on vacation. Nigee can confirm.
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semck83 (229 D(B))
22 Oct 13 UTC
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Putin33 the liar
In another thread ("Hey guys... another school shooting"), putin33 asked me for evidence that he makes things up out of whole cloth to support his rhetoric.
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y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
27 Oct 13 UTC
Open world gunboat position
gameID=127090

Solid South Africa just went CD, someone jump in!
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
NFL Pick 'em: Week 8--the Niners in London Town, Romo/Stafford, and the Pack Back on SNF
So I missed posting for Thursday Night Football...but if everyone didn't already have the PANTHERS over the Bucs anyway...get out. Elsewhere, the Niners look to crush, erm, stomp, erm, play the Jaguars in a highly competitive game in Wembley Stadium (who do we always give London the bad games?) Romo's Cowboys and Stafford's Lions both have something to prove, the Vikings have to find a QB, all this and more, so, Week 8--PICK 'EM!
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sirdallas (1202 D)
27 Oct 13 UTC
Come join the American Burger Joint.
We need 4 more players for ANcient Med.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
26 Oct 13 UTC
Crusader Kings 2 choosing which character to play
I can't choose.
I have Islamic expansion and the Rome-thingy and some other stuff.
What characters are a blast? I have had much fun with all the Spanish king brothers but I'm done with them. What else?
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josunice (3702 D(S))
27 Oct 13 UTC
No Press is Best - @125 GB series
GB tourney going well, but looking for more action.
gameID=128176 gameID=128177 gameID=128178
more to come if these fill...
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gnuvag (621 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
What's the point?
What's the point?
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Danny (100 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
Modern Diplomacy game - needs 9 more players!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=128157
Modern Europe map
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Xildur (2284 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
Cancelling A Game
In this game: gameID=127824
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JECE (1248 D)
18 Oct 13 UTC
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You are posting the same message again, please don't post repeat messages.
I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, but this useful feature which prevents your browser from posting your messages repeatedly when you did not intend to do so is missing something; it is missing a semicolon.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
25 Oct 13 UTC
GTA 5, Call of Duty Ghosts or Battlefield 4 (all PC)
See inside.
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ILN (100 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
Way to happiness
Unhappy? Depressed? Discontent? Just "not feeling it"?
Well wait no more! The happiness agency is here!

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_VENEZUELA_DEPARTMENT_OF_HAPPINESS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-10-25-15-29-24
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MarchKing (113 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
PassWord
I'm new to wedDiplomacy. P-Word will not let me join.....It's the same one I log into the site, right? What am I missing???

Thanks!
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shield (3929 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
Winning:
I've been playing for some time now. Lately I am usually the biggest player in or close to and get forces into a draw. Any advice for turning this into more wins?
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
21 Oct 13 UTC
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Americans, wake up
http://progressivevoices.com/white-house-on-french-nsa-complaint-all-nations-spy/ Your nation is losing its grip. I know I've brought it up a couple of times but one day, years from now, hell's going to break lose and you're all gonna say: there was this guy on webdip who wouldn't shut up about the US becoming more and more inward.
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Emac (0 DX)
24 Oct 13 UTC
Not killing terrorists runs a great risk of increasing terrorism, see "appeasement."
We prosecuted the first world trade center bombers as criminals instead of treating their attack as an act of war and it got us 9-11. We treated 9-11 as an act of war and Al Qaeda never conducted another successful attack on American soil. So using drones against Al Qaeda terrorists didn't now post a greater risk of Al Qaeda terrorism for the citizens in the United States.
There wasn't even an author willing to take possession of the article you linked to in Deutsche Welle. The article calls the American drone attacks in Yemen "indiscriminate." Such a false premise betrays the unknown author's lack of adherence to the factual record. The article also relies solely on the testimony of two Yemeni's and offers no corroboration whatsoever for their statements. I would suggest the statements in the article are not "facts" and no credible argument can be based on these types individual opinions misrepresented as "facts"
The second article deals with Al Qaeda in Yemen and as the historical record shows Al Qaeda was attacking the United States long before drones. Osama Bin Laden didn't quit attacking or attempting to attack the United States until he was dead. So I disagree with the premise that allowing Al Qaeda to find safe asylum aware from imminent attack is not a realistic solution to terrorism and that drones killer murdering Al Qaeda terrorists attempting to kill Americans. The drone program decreases the terrorist threat to the United States without a doubt. Killing Al Qaeda members wherever they are however we can it the best possible way to defeat them, and if these cowards choose to use human shields we cannot be dissuaded.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
24 Oct 13 UTC
"Well, maybe we are tired of being world police and being the butt of the joke even when we try peace overtures so are ready to flip the rest of the world the bird and say "Fuck off dimwitted socialists and communist!""

That''s fine, Draugnar, but America tried this over and over and over again, and the consequences were invariably that America got sucked back into things harder than it ejected.

September 5, 2001:
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010905-2.html
" Mexico is the first country I visited as President. Today it is my privilege to welcome President Fox for the first state visit of my administration. This is a recognition that the United States has no more important relationship in the world than the one we have with Mexico."

September 11, 2001:
Ow dang. That was erm... not true at all was it?
Putin33 (111 D)
24 Oct 13 UTC
You cannot know any of this. The US government doesn't release information about who it is targeting in Yemen or Pakistan and why, so for all we know the people being killed are civilians. HRW estimates that 57 civilians have been killed in Yemen in 6 drone strikes from 2009 to 2013, AI estimates 29 Pakistani civilians have been killed in drone strikes from 2012-2013. There was at least one admitted instance of a missile strike hitting a target it should not have hit, killing 41 civilians in Yemen.

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-us-drone-strikes-civilian-casualties-20131021,0,6567194.story#axzz2icB26EBg

You have no 'facts' to back up your claim that the drone strikes are helping anything or not producing more 'terrorists'. We have many reasons to believe that they're doing the opposite. At the very least it has turned governments which once were sympathetic or helpful to the United States hostile, while compelling them to reach out to the very 'terrorists' being targeted. The populations have just as much reason, if not more, to fear the US drones than they do Al Qaeda militants.

"Killing Al Qaeda members wherever they are however we can it the best possible way to defeat them, and if these cowards choose to use human shields we cannot be dissuaded."

They're not an army, so how do they use 'human shields'? And by your logic, the WTC attack was a legitimate attack because the complex housed a CIA office. The CIA was "using human shields".

"Not killing terrorists runs a great risk of increasing terrorism, see "appeasement."

Appeasement is a very misunderstood and oft-abused term by those who wish to dismiss out of hand any policy of restraint.
Putin33 (111 D)
24 Oct 13 UTC
"September 11, 2001:
Ow dang. That was erm... not true at all was it?"

It is actually true. Since when have US-Mexican relations decreased in importance?
redhouse1938 (429 D)
24 Oct 13 UTC
Well, Putin, my bet is that on September 11, 2001, for a fleeting second there, it was the United Kingdom and not Mexico that got the most important phone calls. Just guessing.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
24 Oct 13 UTC
That was a poor sentence, but I think it's true all the same.
Emac (0 DX)
24 Oct 13 UTC
Putin, what kind of mental child are you? You posted both of these statements,
"Drone strikes have done nothing but embolden movements like the TTP" and in reference to Pakistan, "We're mostly killing civilians."
Then, in the height of hypocrisy, you post to me "You cannot know any of this."
You don't know one thing at all about who is getting killed in Pakistan or anything at all about the TTP, you hypocritical child.
Please get emotional and post something typically stupid like you always do, like "I know people in the TTP" so that the NSA spying on this website will pick up your stupid ass for associating with terrorists.
You are a colossal fraud Putin.
Emac (0 DX)
24 Oct 13 UTC
On a separate point Putin, only a total idiot makes the insinuation that if you can't prove something isn't true it must be true. I don't have to prove that drone strikes don't make people terrorists. You have to prove that they do you irrational, illogical moron charading as a competent individual. I put forth a logical argument that Al Qaeda attacked us long before a drone launched its first missile, and I also made the argument that Al Qaeda hasn't carried out a successful attack on American sole since we began using drones. Now if drones were critical incitement you claim then you must produce the evidence of it you fool.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/24/world/europe/europe-summit-nsa-surveillance/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews
redhouse1938 (429 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/22/world/meast/syria-snipers-pregnant-women/index.html?hpt=hp_c3
Luckily our friend Vladimir Putin is on the case, it was a little bit out of reach for the US.
Emac (0 DX)
26 Oct 13 UTC
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/22/world/meast/syria-snipers-pregnant-women/index.html?hpt=hp_c3
Emac (0 DX)
26 Oct 13 UTC
A perfect example of the decay of Syrian culture. No surprise that such a decadent culture is imploding.
Actually, Emac, the burden of proof lies with you. Advocating the killing of potential innocents with drones violates those innocents' rights to life and to a fair trial, which means you must provide some justification demonstrating that the use of drone strikes reduces terrorism. (That's if we're generous enough to grant the rather odious utilitarian calculus involved in deciding for others whether or not their imminent deprivation of life is 'worth' reducing terrorism. I don't grant it, but for sake of argument we'll set it aside.)

Your argument is that because terrorism existed before drone strikes, drone strikes can't cause terrorism. This argument is terrible. Death existed before guns and knives, but both of those can cause death.

Your other argument is that drone strikes are working because we have not suffered another terrorist attack on American soil. In the first place, this is explicitly false; see the 2013 Boston Marathon bombings. In the second place, your restriction of the location to American soil is without merit, and we can see ample terrorist attacks on Americans abroad (primarily but not entirely soldiers) since the use of drones, further demonstrating the argument is false. In the third place, even if your statement were true, correlation does not mean causation; again looking at your arbitrary and unmerited restriction to American soil, the logistics of launching a terrorist attack in the United States are sufficiently difficult to deter terrorists in the region where drone strikes are deployed. How do we know that fear of drone strikes, or death by drone strikes, has been the reason why the US has not suffered a terrorist attack (ignoring again the Boston Marathon incident)?


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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
26 Oct 13 UTC
Could be worse .... you could be female in Saudi Arabia
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24658753
Our good friends the Saudis are up to their old tricks again, and just when you thought it was only gays and blacks that were still oppressed
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
26 Oct 13 UTC
Special Bible Verse of the Day
The latest in an occasional posting of a special Bible verse.
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Hannibal01 (100 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
Does everyone cheat in this game?
Once again, I am playing a game in which there are "anonymous" players, and no "in game" messaging, and there is obvious collaboration. Is this standard? Do players believe that because it only states "no in game" messaging that it is okay to have "out of game" messaging?
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dirge (768 D(B))
25 Oct 13 UTC
voting rights
Yeah i think the voting rights act was a good thing, but am I the only one who wonders why liberals take it as fact that some people can not be expected to go get picture id card?
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
26 Oct 13 UTC
Drawing/canceling a game in gunboat
What is the etiquette for one player missing several turns in gunboat? Several? When is a draw appropriate and when is a cancel? Is it bad form to do nothing or to change when you start winning?
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President Eden (2750 D)
23 Oct 13 UTC
why do you hate freedom.
yes, you. why?

why.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
25 Oct 13 UTC
It Took Three Days
For someone else to shoot it up. Just saying, guys. Can't say nothing's wrong here; you and I both know that's bullshit. Thankfully not a fatal incident.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/10/24/shooter-at-us-navybasecaptured.html
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Yonni (136 D(S))
25 Oct 13 UTC
Reflektor
To get you through Friday, here's a link of a stream of Arcade Fire's new album. 90 goddamn minutes long but I've really enjoyed the single so far so I'm looking forward to this:
http://m.rollingstone.com/music/news/stream-arcade-fires-reflektor-20131024
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
25 Oct 13 UTC
Poverty effective form of abuse.
Quality of life? motherboard.vice.com/blog/growing-up-poor-is-bad-for-your-brain
Science!
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fokkothebarbarian (100 DX)
24 Oct 13 UTC
Playing with 2 accounts
I am playing with some friends the online game of Modern Diplomacy.
One of our friends has stepped out of the game. He gave his password to another player/friend so that he can play for him. So this player is now playing under his own account and also on the other account of the friend who is already out of the game. Our question now is, is this allowed?
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COTW (836 D)
25 Oct 13 UTC
Replacement player needed
Game just started, zero phases missed!

Please join as Quebec
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=127854
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