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Lance the Great (100 D)
01 Aug 11 UTC
5 min not more.
plz join 5 min not more.
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krellin (80 DX)
01 Aug 11 UTC
"MUTE" IS FOR PUSSIES AND RETARDS....
...That have NO argument for their cause.

Witness Tettleton...who says Yogurtini (or some such business) hasTHRIVED under Obama....and then says no bsiuness cab thirve under Obama. He is the WORST kind of hypocrite....because he blathers on like a bitch....but refuses to repsond.
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MaxVax (5610 D)
01 Aug 11 UTC
could someone pick up Italy?
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=62869
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Voice (977 D)
01 Aug 11 UTC
Live Game tonight!
Come play 5 Minute Mayhem with me! gameID=64826
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
28 Jul 11 UTC
Obama Orders More Deaths
It sounds outrageous at first glance, but my President, Barack Obama, just sentenced Americans to die needlessly today by signing higher CAFE standards so US cars will get more gallons per mile.
Study after study shows that CAFE standards killed between 40,000 and 125,000 Americans and crippled 350,000-625,000.
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krellin (80 DX)
31 Jul 11 UTC
A "Super-Short" Story
I once submitted the following super-short story. It was word-count limited, and so the idea is that every word and thought must count. The idea is to give a quick scene that evokes and image, and allows the reader to create a whole back-story on their own...And now:

Two Monsters Down
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King Atom (100 D)
31 Jul 11 UTC
Anybody?
threadID=blue

This is not the thread that I warned about. The warned thread is yet to come.
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krellin (80 DX)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Seeking Objective Feedback on a Short Story...
I am seeking feedback on my writing....more to follow.
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krellin (80 DX)
29 Jul 11 UTC
I think it would be....don't want to explore it too deeply or it will cease to be a short....but I'm sure some badges will show up in the end to bring Peter back into compliance...
denis (864 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
I'm glad to help. Theres a link I can give you that is pretty much as inflammatory mainstream atheism gets.
http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/
It might be offensive or not and some of the link on the site are stupid but theres a lot about fucked up bible verses and such that's pretty accurate to non whacko atheists.
krellin (80 DX)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Bed calls...work, etc. I'll check out that link, denis. Thanks all for the feedback, and to any that wish to continue feeding back. ALL comments of any variety are appreciated.

WebDip....and WebDip players...rule!
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
@krellin:

OK, I finished reading your story--would've finished sooner but I had to get up and do something in the middle of it--so anyway, my opinion or critique or whatever...

I think it's a very obvious story, krellin, which is not a good thing. It's extremely heavey-handed; even if the title doesn't give up the game for you--and I don't think it does, and I'll explain why in a moment--it's still painfully obvious in every paragraph of every page what's going on, yes, but also exactly what's gpoing to happen yes; this really robs your story of any sort of suspense or, subsequently, dramatic build-up, as from Page 1 I can guess what's going to occur at the end of Page 34 with almost perfect accuracy. It's very transparent that way, which I think is the fault of two things, primarily--the implausibility of your subject and your style.

The sort of theocracy you have set up in the world of your story doesn't seem plausible, and not nearly enough for the audience to connect to the world of the characters so much as view it as something alien and most assuredly science-fiction, which, to be fair, seems to certainly be your intention, as it seems you wrote this for an Isaac Asimov contest and make it pretty clear form the outset that this is a world set in the future. The trouble with that is, however, that if you're going to set something in the future and make it science-fiction, you need a common element and commom, humanistic characters to ground the story in the modern sensibility so a modern audience can read and take it in and not be off-put by this stragne new world you've created for them to read about and experience.

I would guess that you intended religion to be that intemediary aspect with which we can relate, as well as the other characters, particularly Peter, his father, and the Church Father.

Setting the characters aside for a moment, however, the treatment of religon in this world doesn't seem plausible because of the extent to which you allow it to have a sort of 1984-esque intrusion into the privacy of the characters; indeed, I'd say the one thought I had throughout your story was how much this all reminded me of 1984, which is good in that 1984 is a great story and certainly one you can build on for social commentary and science fiction, but at the same time it hurts your story because it means the reader draws comparisons, intentionally or not, with 1984, and as no one on this site is as talented as George Orwell--myself included, I don't pretend to be Shakespeare 2.0 here, just a poster with an opinion--you don't want to set yourself up in comparison with him, as Orwell will win every time, and make any imperfections or lesser aspects of your story seem glaring even if, in reality, they're really minor things.

An example of this, really, comes with the Peter's father's spying on him, as well as the amount of information the Church has on Peter. While, again, implausible--and I'll say why in a moment--these details also bring to mind the monitors from 1984 (I think you even mention "monitors" in your story, actually...? Maybe just briefly?) and these and the nano-chips recollect the monitors from Ender's Game, a fact not helped by the fact your protagonist is named PETER of all names. ;)

Drawing reference to other stories isn't just OK, it can be done and done really well; most if not all successful authors allude to someone, even Homer's Iliad and Odyssey have references to previous myths, and as such Dante and Shakespeare allude to Homer, and then Keats and Browning and Shelly allude to Dante and Shakespeare, and then D.H. Lawrence and T.S. Eliot allude to those figures, and so on and so forth...and it can really help a work--after all, if Dante and Milton don't allude to the Bible, among other sources, like Homer and Aristotle, they have no stories...you can't have The Inferno without the Classical and Biblical villains, and you can't have the Paradisio without Dante's having got an idea of what Heaven might be like from the Bible, and without the stories of The Fall of Man and The Fall of Lucifer, Milton's Paradise Lost is lost to us forever.

So you can draw on other sources to write fiction, and you can do so well.

But the issue is, if you're going to do that in order to help you create a world, you ahve to make the world and those allusions plausible.

Creating a world where a Church is allowed to implant chips and deliberately cause pain to people and, to an extent, control their actions via the psychological pain-avoidance response--which probably has another, more technical name, but I can't remember it right now--is not plausible or reasonable for a reader in the year 2011. It's not something that could ever occur today. The idea that the federal government would be allowed to implant chips in people is by ITSELF, I'ds say, an idea that's so implausible for an imaginable future that by itself it could be grounds enough for destroying the plausibility of the world you created, but for a RELIGION to be allowed to do that and cause pain like that in a free society is beyond feasibility, meaning that this story eitehr has to take place ina theocracy or a society so far into the future that there's such a disconnect between their world and the world of 2011 that I, the reader, struggle to really effectively connect with Peter and understand his plight, as if I can't understand the sort of world he lives in, WHY they are allowed to do this, HOW this ever came to be, HOW the United States or United Kingdom or wherever else allowed, somehow, for this to become an accepted policy when if such an idea were introduced today it'd probably be one of the most unanimous vetoes in history and the public outcry over even the IDEA of that sort of an invasion of privacy and torture for religious means would be so decried whoever was foolish enough to propose it would very soon and very truly have to fear for his OWN life. We live in an age of INCEASING availability of knowledge and freedoms--at least in some regards--and so to see such a sharp decrease is frightening in a story, yes, but the extent to which you take it makes that seem so implausible that it completely undercuts the power of your intended statement.

Why, then, is this OK to do with 1984, why is it OK there and not here?

And why is it OK for Milton and Dante to draw on other sources, but in your case I've said invoking Orwell's a double-edged sword and one thats more than likely one that will do you more harm than good in this particular case?

There are at least two reasons why Orwell's 1984 is alright in its Big Brother, monitor, Inner Party/Outer Party world of seemingly-implausible totalitarianism while your story...not so much:

One is, again, when this was written: Orwell's 1984 was written at a period in time after the World Wars and at the height of the Cold War, when we had just seen just how iron-fisted and soul-crushing and invasive a society could become with Nazi Germany, and the West's perception of the USSR, at least, was certainly no glowing portrait of their level of freedom in that State, either. (I'm NOT SAYING THE USSR WAS EVIL HERE, NO ONE mistake my statement here for that and start a 200 post rant back and forth on this subject again, I'm saying that post WWII the common PERCEPTION was that, not that the ACTUALITY was like that.) As a result, then, Orwell's audience would have been far more open and receptive to the notion of a State completely subverting and taking over its citizens' lives; it had happened for them not a few years before, so it didn't seem implausible at all. By contrast, for all our governments' mishaps by both the Left and Right over the last few administrations, no Nazi Germany-level sort of takeover can compare with an Orwellian world or Hitler's Reich; even something as controversial as The Patriot Act doesn't compare in the sense that while both Nazi Germany and The Patriot Act allowed for what may be seen as unacceptable breaches of privacy, the latter didn't also feature goose-stepping soldiers invading homes and burning places of business and worship and 6 million at the same time. It's popualr to be cynical about the current, modern era in which we live, but the fact remains that Orwell's 1984 was born of a different time than ours, and while it still rings true to this day, were he alive today, Orwell might not have written 1984, not because he wasn't talented enough, but because 1984 was a response to a specific political movement or two, both of which are now in the history books, largely. Your world, Peter's world, is a resonse to religion and technology, but it seems an unnatural outgrowth of those two things, at least by modern standards, as the modern common electorate would never allow this to take place, whereas Orwell's world HAD just taken place...Big Brother and Oceana are exaggerations of them, yes, but Hitler and Stalin HAD just taken power, and so the idea that this could happen soon--hence the title 1984, a reference to how things might go south in such a short period of time--was far from alien to Orwell's audience, it was seen as being at least plausible...probable? No. But PLAUSIBLE...the idea that this COULD happen on this scale, because it had already occured on a smaller scale in their lifetimes...yes. The idea that technology will become more integral to our being is VERY plausible, that works for your story...but the idea that it willbe used in this Orwellian fashion is implausible in a Post-Cold War era. What's more, even the era kin which we DO live in that might seem to support your supposition, "The War on Terror Era," works counter to it, as your world isn't one of terrorism and small cells attacking the larger populace from the shadows, but rather a Big Brother sort of world, and in an age where so many--including YOURSELF--call for smaller government, the motivation for your wanting to denounce the controlling aspect of government and religion is clear, but confused,a s you know you would never allow this to happen, your fellow voeters would never allow this to happen...even big-government advocates like Putin and I would never allow this to happen, as while we both suppport larger government, we do so at least in part because we feel larger government will best ENACT and PROTECT civil liberties, NOT detract from them, so even the crowd most contrary to you politically would never allow this to occur, so the idea that it could occur in an age of so much media scrutiny and pandering to the popular electorate is, again, implausible, and so, in a world as new and alien as your science-fiction, Ender's Game/1984 world, there is little to no room for the reader to feel that this is anything but a hypothetical world from which he is far removed and, as such, a world he ultimately does not and cannot care about.

Which is where the second reason for the success of 1984 comes in.

1984 is meant as an allegory, in the same way that Animal Farm is. This is made perfectly clear to the reader by Orwell, and, as an allegory, 1984 can be experienced as a FANTASY OF REALISM, that is, it has modern ideas and elements, to be sure, but the outlandish lengths to which Orwell takes thes ideas CAN be taken as his writing a fantasy, albeit a grim and modern one at that. This is NOT, then, a world that you absolutely have to have a grounding in to understand and relate to on the sort of humanistic, persona experience-level as the first audiences of 1984 would have had...you don't have to have lived through fascist Nazi Germany or the USSR and the Cold War to take in 1984; it's written in such a way that it can be taken as a fantastical allegory by future generations, and so a different sort of connection can be made in that regard. The same goes with Dante's Inferno and Milton's Paradise Lost--if you're like me and don't HAVE that grounding in the Catholic--Dante--or Anglicized--Milton--Churches, you're OK, you can view the story from the perspective of a fantasy world of allegory...Satan doesn't carry the emotional sort of baggage in Milton's work that he might for a Christian reader, but I can still see him and get his opposition to God as being a symbol of defiance and, as Satan is such a classic character, I can understand both that he's supposed to be evil and likely is seen as being evil by many Christian readers, but to me and other readers, Satan comes across as an anti-hero for the sort of defiance and revolutionary ideas that Milton himself felt should be expressed, and so Satan's banishment from Heaven can be seen as a good act of God or, on a secular level, a view of what happens to revolutionaries that failed in their cause, and now must dwell upon it.

Christian or not, I can read into the stories of Dante and Milton and take them as fantasy.

Your story is science fiction, and yet it's trying so hard to be an allegory for a view of government and religion that you hold that it story becomes a tool for the message, rather than the message being a tool for the story, and so it erects a sort of wall between the story and the reader when the story itself seems secondary and only a vehicle for preaching (a bit ironic, considering your topic.)

All in all, I didn't feel as a reader I could make a suspension of disbelief big enough to overcome the implausibility of all of this, and the way in which your story is told doesn't help this situation; I would suggest, then, that you might want to try and spend more time telling us HOW we are introduced to this world, HOW things this implausible came to be, and be sure to makde it clear, logical, and at least faintly-feasible to the reader that this COULD happen in a real society as they know it, or, if you want to take away the realism aspect of it and tell this as a sort of modern fantasy, than I would suggest you treat it as such.

In either case, the heavy-handedness of the message and the story's subservient relationship to it ultimately hurts the story and undercuts the message.

The characters aren't exempt from this. While I will say I think you have a decent and reasonably-plausible character in Peter, the characters around him are so wooden and fake-seeming in a great deal of their dialogue--the Father of the Church comes to mind here, I understand you're trying to understate and underscore a sinister sense about the whole upload procedure and torutre, but the dialogue seems eitehr stock for what you would expect from someone trying to write a religious figure or else stock-villain-speak--and as a result, while we might identify and be able to relate with Peter on a basic level, you never develop him enough to have that be anything but basic--although iwith a word limit I can appreciate the difficulty--and with no other characters we can see as being anything but cardboard cutouts and a story that's essentially an implausible cardboard cutout for a message you want to send, we have a hero, but no journey or quest with which we can go, no locations we can share with him that feel anything but contrived, and no one we can talk to that doesn't sound completely scripted.

So we're left with a character and a two-dimensional universe to nowhere, in the end.

In addition, stylistically, I personally dislike the idea of starting of a story with the introduction of a character's name--it's stock and cliche by now, it's been done in short-story and nvoel writing for the past 200+ years, and as Modernism has begun to move away from that--and Post-Modernism has as well, but due to my viceral hatred of Post-Modernism, I'll stop talking about it, lest this go on for another 50 pages--it now seems simplsitic and cliche to introduce a character just by dropping his name at the beginning of the story. Think of it as a challenge, the opportunity to reveal your character in a way that the audience, maybe, wasn't expecting. Consider a movie--a character doesn't just walk onscreen and say, "Hi, I'm Joe Smith, and I'll be your protagonist this evening."

Maybe have us follow Peter in a typical day around his house. Consider Moby Dick--in that, Captain Ahab, certainly the most memorable character, doesn't appear until Chapter 35, if I recall, and all the tiem he's NOT there, people on the ship are talking about him, asking each other if it's true he has a scar, and what he's like, and if this happened, and this, and so onand so forth...it builds up the character extraordinarily well, and so, when we finally DO mee Ahab, not only has his world and ship already been well described by others--so Melville doesn't have to waste Ahab's time and dialogue giving exposition from his tragic hero--but he now has an air about him already, the reader's already heard things about him, and so they already have an anticipatory, tense, excited feeling to see Ahab finally there, and see if what's been said is true. Likewise, imagine if you spent a couple of pages just taking us on a tour of what this house in the future is like...show the mother and the father interacting with appliances or items that are commonplace to them, maybe, but new to us, and so by watching them, we learn about the characters, the world, and the exposition of how this technology works all at once. Have them be chatting about Peter's Uplifting for a while, how "great" it is, and how "proud" they are of him for this and that and whatever else, and so now you have both a setup for the Uplifting, so we wonder what that is and what it's like, as well as some context for this world and a buildup for Peter as well, one far more engaging that his jsut being decared the protagonist in the first lines of the story.



And I think I'll stop there, since really, if anyone's still reading after all of that, they were reading for the express purpose of hoping my ramblings would cure their insomnia (if it did, folks, you're welcome.)

;)
Manas (818 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Great story Krellin, very well written. Like some others said, the ending seemed a bit incomplete. Reminded me of Brave New world too.
@Denis: While the character Peter is a theist, the author doesn't seem to be pro-relegion at all. If anything, the more relegious characters (the church, and Peter's father) are depicted negatively.
denis (864 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Pro religion, is not the same as pro theism...
fiedler (1293 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Hey Obi, just realised that I've never (knowlingly) read any of your great works of LIT. You're always casually mentioning that you're gods-gift to writing, so where can I see your canon please?
mapleleaf (0 DX)
29 Jul 11 UTC
obi is a POSEUR.

Period.
fiedler (1293 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
No mapleleaf! I cannot believe that! After writing over 3,000 words dumping on the brave krellin, and hundreds of thousands of words on this forum about his love for literature and writing, he must (Must, MUST!) have a piece of his own he is proud of. Why otherwise, one would have to be ASTOUNDINGLY full of shizzle, no?

C'mon Obi! As you know I have always idolized you - please don't disappoint. Share a sample of your work with us. Anything at all....
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
I never claimed to be God's gift, fielder...

For starters, I'd have to believe in a God, and I can't really do that right now. ;)

But I'll share a work, if everyone wants me to...probably won't be as good as krellin's, but then, again, I just do criticism...I don't claim to be so enlightened as to be an artist as well...
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
And before I post a work, or anything else, I'd jsut like to say one thing more:

krellin asked for an hoenst opinion and honest criticism.

I have done just that; it'd be a greater and far graver disseervice to krellin if I told him that I liked his work just to make him feel good...

In the first place, that'd seem to imply krellin was so fragile a person he couldn't handle any criticism and needed to be coddled and soothed, and in the second place, it'd be a slap in the face to both his integrity and mine to give a bold-faced lie when an honest opinion on literary merit is asked for...

I might just be an would-be Ivory Tower wanna-be hack myself...

But I'm just not in the habit of lying to folks asking for the truth, call me crazy, I know, but...
fiedler (1293 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Yippee! I pm'd everyone, and they ALL can't wait for it. Positively gagging for it old boy. Lay on, McObi....
fiedler (1293 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Obi, I fully understand your position and respect the granite set of ethics you hold to.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
And I expect a viceral and retributive critique...

But thanks for the free publicity, in any case, as if I couldn't generate my own (even on the Internet, I just seem to do that...eitehr a very good thing or else a very poor one...well, why not both?) ;)

Would you like an old hack piece I wrote or something new for the ocaission?
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Oh.

And what did YOU think of krellin's story, fielder...somwhere in that public challenge of MY critique, I must have somehow missed your own (and bear in mind I gave krellin two full hours of my time reading and then writing on his work...a fair bit of attention I gave HIS short story, like it or not--and you have HOW much to say on his work, exactly? HOW much time have you had the courtesy to grant him?)
fiedler (1293 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
At this point I have read half of krellins story. Like you, I think it starts poorly, with the reader having to think backwards to make sense of what they have already written. I think the writing improves greatly from around page 5. As far as subject matter is concerned, I don't think its particularly interesting, but I'm more of a non-fiction reader anyway.

Here is my effort at re-writing page 1:

Seeking peace for the day ahead, Peter Jared knelt-down in prayer.
EXPLAIN WHY HERE.
His devout parents had suffered so much for their faith and still they encouraged him to join the church. He understood that we must suffer for our sins, but he was afraid. And so he prayed: "Lord, perhaps I'm not ready to be a man, but I hope my mind will be controlled, that it will be Yours."

Overall, I think his story is pretty good for people who like that sort of thing (not me.)
I admire krellin for his efforts and his courage to post here.

Anyway, please give us your best work Obi, anything from 200 to 2 million words.
I promise to be honest and civil.
Can't speak for certain canadians tho ;P
fiedler (1293 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
* they have already READ.
fiedler (1293 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Whilst we wait for Obi to select something from his oeuvre, here's another little gem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGi8jSGpr5U
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
OK, so basically, for all that care--which might consist of myself and maybe fiedler in passing only, but whatever--I currently have finished the portion of what I'm writing I was going to submit (I'm submitting part of a larger thing I'm writing, if I'm going to get critisim it might as well be for something I'm workinbg on now and care to actually work on still) but it really SUCKS as a stand-alone piece without any context, it's just a lot of rambling...

So it's a perfect Obi story. ;)

But nevertheless, it needs context for this to make any sense or be anything but boring, which it still might be at the end of this, but you can't fault a guy for trying, so I'm going to go ahead and take the first part of the first draft of the preceding part--try and deconstuct that, won't you?--and type that up so there's some flow and context, even though this is probably going to be a greatly-abbreviated version of what I'd ever "finally" go with for this...

So yeah.

As for how long this is so far, I don't know, on Calibri 11 font Word has this at 6 pages and jsut shy of 3,500 words I've typed up in this short space of time, so I have no diea how long it'll be once I ad that connecting bridge part to it.

So yeah.

This will take a while.

For all those that care...all one of us... :p
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
And fiedler's link is epic...
fiedler (1293 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
I am having multiple orgasms in anticipation! It need not be a masterpiece of composition - a fragment of 500 words would suffice. To silence your critics once an for all ;D
krellin (80 DX)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Just started to read obi's comments...didn't complete them (have to go to work) but DON'T DUMP ON OBI. I asked for am hones opinion, and that is what I got, and for that I thank him. Again....haven't completed his review, but I respect him for his opinion. for example, if he found it heavy handed and obvious, then, to him, it was. In other words, great minds think alike, and Obi and I, well, must be great minds! :P
fiedler (1293 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Absolutely krellin, very fair.

Nevertheless, Sir Obi has accepted the challenge of posting some original work here. And we wait with bated breath....
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
I have just cracked into the 4700s on words...

And still have a ways to go, connecting the two parts, but after tyoing for three and a half hours, I'm taking a break for a bit.

;)

(Also, where am I going to post this thing? Is the forum going to allow me to post what'll probably be 7000 or more words worth of material?)
fiedler (1293 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Probably should create a new thread and post it in 1000 word installments. That way you could string us along for weeks if you want! Looking forward to a good read tomorrow, g'night.
krellin (80 DX)
29 Jul 11 UTC
lol I was just perusing Obi's comments at work. I have this to say in repsonse....good, bad or indifferent, it certainly set off a massive chain-rection of thoughts and comments from obi...and as such, I consider it a success. If it were pointless drivel, I don't think he would have made such an effort to offer critique. He may or may not like it...but it is not so poorly written that he read a page and tossed it aside...Thanks, Obi, for your efforts. I look forward to your own writing contributions.
SacredDigits (102 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
I'd like to say, about fiedler's complaint about us having to re-examine and not be fed the situation up front, I disagree. As a reader, it feels more immersive to me if you throw me right in the middle of the world (as you did) and let us pick up the pieces as it goes. This is probably just a case of different strokes for different folks, though. Both schools of thought have adherents.

The telepathic communication did clunk a little even for me, though.
krellin (80 DX)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Given that it is a short story, meant to examine a narrow point (using technology to make suffering for sin real/the oppresive nature of a church...) I felt it was necessary to "jump right in". If it is written well, the reader will be able to fill in an apropriate backstory. Everyone inherently understands that he is from a devout family, etc. without it having to be spelled out in detail. In short (no pun intended), I give the reader enough credit to pick up the story in the "middle" and understand the context of this high-tech world. That is the nature of a short story, I believe.

Hmmm...Not telepathic...it is nano-network...I guessed that needs to be spelled out in more detail if you missed that.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Ahhhhh......the excuses flow from the mighty keyboard of obi unlike, you know, anything substantive.

Oooooo.....you all won't have any context.

Oooooo.....I've just cracked five billion words. No internet forum on this puny planet could ever handle ANY of my "work".

obi....you have NOTHING to post RIGHT NOW?

fiedler's point(I believe) was that you simply MUST have SOMETHING that you could post RIGHT NOW.

Unless of course you're a poseur. That's MY point.

I suggest that most of obi's "work" is mixed in with the stucco on his bedroom ceiling.
krellin (80 DX)
29 Jul 11 UTC
:( How odd to have people throwing insults at obi on a thread I started. I feel....odd....

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Carpysmind (1423 D)
31 Jul 11 UTC
Possible Site\Game Change
I don’t know if it has been mentioned but; is it possible to change the font color for Turkey in the “Classic” game and Egypt in the “Ancient” game to black for easier viewing?
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
31 Jul 11 UTC
New message in gunboat
I currently have a new message icon appearing in a no-ingame messages game. I am aware that it was the mods stating that they removed someone from the game but it is a little annoying to have...
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taylornottyler (100 D)
31 Jul 11 UTC
Question about retreats
Hey I was under the impression that if army 1 bounced with army 2 in territory A, but Army 1 was forced out of territory B by an Army 3, that army 1 could retreat to territory A. Yet, in a game situation this doesn't happen? Can someone explain this to me?
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rayNimagi (375 D)
31 Jul 11 UTC
To All Those Who Favor Decentralization of the Economy
Look at the Articles of Confederation. Look at modern-day Spain. Both had/have decentralized economic systems, and weak central governments.
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krellin (80 DX)
31 Jul 11 UTC
WOULD LIKE TO SEE....
When I view a player's profile, I would *love* to be able to search their history and show games played as a specific *nation*. How does MyObnoxiousNeighbor play as France? Oh....here is a list of his French games....
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TBroadley (178 D)
31 Jul 11 UTC
Looking for an Austria
Four centers in 1903. Not a bad position, but it'll require some negotiating.

gameID=64373
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denis (864 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
An Education in Economics
Conservatives and libertarians have the mistaken and ignorant idea that corporations can do no harm. And if there is a great reduction in extra-corporate governance of companies, they will play nice and everyone will be happy.
30 replies
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MaxVax (5610 D)
30 Jul 11 UTC
could someone pick up Germany?
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=63283
4 replies
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damian (675 D)
30 Jul 11 UTC
So how do you win?
As you may have noticed I have trouble winning games, so I'm curious how do you personally do it?
9 replies
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Agent K (0 DX)
27 Jul 11 UTC
*Doubloon Challenge
Nimen hao,

In my attempt to pole vault the leaderboard, I have created this game to acquire doubloons beyond imagination. perhaps you can too.
12 replies
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King Atom (100 D)
30 Jul 11 UTC
Warning Thread
I'm going to make a new post tomorrow, I'd just like to warn you first. If you troll, I will hunt you down and beat you harder than a drunk beats his wife. You can troll this thread all you want, but I want to make sure that you all know what is coming. Be warned!
24 replies
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EmperorMaximus (551 D)
30 Jul 11 UTC
2 Forums
Would it be too complicated to have a "Diplomacy related" forum and an "everything else" forum?

Just thought that would be nice...
10 replies
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Smerdyakov (100 D)
30 Jul 11 UTC
Pending multi/meta/cheating investigations
Let's have this as a thread not to post cheating allegations but to post game IDs you've ALREADY emailed to [email protected] and to say how long it's been since you contacted them.. Remember to include the game ID/URL because they cannot look up games by name!
12 replies
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hellalt (24 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
fucked up server
"webDiplomacy is moving to dedicated hosting! It won't happen overnight, but the wheels are in motion and we have enough funding for 3 years! Thanks to those who donated for helping make it happen."

Ok but right now this server is probably the worst online. Maybe we should switch to a Congolese one. it will probably be better...
27 replies
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Riphen (198 D)
22 Jul 11 UTC
Minecraft.
Anyone play it?

I was going to buy the beta today but of course the website is being stupid.
28 replies
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krellin (80 DX)
30 Jul 11 UTC
Capitalism in Modern America: Feifdoms Reborn
Read On....
28 replies
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Gunfighter06 (224 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
I'm getting nervous
Somebody needs to raise the American debt ceiling very soon, or else America is finished. What do you think the implications are if Obama just decides to go around Congress and act unilaterally to raise the debt ceiling?
8 replies
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Darwyn (1601 D)
28 Jul 11 UTC
Tolerance v. Sensitivity
Assuming there are is no middle ground, who wins?
29 replies
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PSMongoose (2384 D)
25 Jul 11 UTC
The Statistics of Diplomacy
Is there data for which country wins the most ... and the least?
8 replies
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Axxroytovu (100 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Convoy Errors
I'm currently playing a game - http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=64585 and I can't put orders in to convoy a unit. I could do it last turn, but when the UI changed, this problem started. I'll put in "convoy" an army to "_____" from "_____" and as soon as I put in the last setting, it resets everything and says "orders not completed" when I try and ready. Help?
1 reply
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dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Western Triple vs Eastern Triple.
Assuming Italy CDs in spring 1901, who would win? (AIR vs EFG)
15 replies
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King Atom (100 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
What is Obama doing?
What if Obama only became President to troll America?
2 replies
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