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Ezio (1746 D)
18 Jan 17 UTC
Highest stakes live game
What is the highest stakes live game ever on the site?
51 replies
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Ezio (1746 D)
15 Jan 17 UTC
Ethics
If someone admits they only want to ally with you for meta reasons, are you ethically forced to attack them?
22 replies
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brainbomb (474 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
(+1)
Selena Gomez vs. a Hot platter of Hush puppies and Fried Catfish
Is there an afterlife? Or is there reall just a giant reality tv orb that floats above Ariana Grande's feet.
30 replies
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Merirosvo (302 D)
13 Jan 17 UTC
(+1)
Scoring System Proposal
I don't know if this has been suggested but:
1. If there is a winner they get the whole pot
2. If there is a draw, it's always a seven* way draw regardless of elimination.
*Or however many
39 replies
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jmo1121109 (3797 D Mod)
16 Jan 17 UTC
(+1)
Congratulations Zultar
On winning the first 1 vs 1 game ever made (paused till now) on this site (gameID=187512).
29 replies
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leon1122 (175 D)
15 Jan 17 UTC
Rule Question
Can you support an enemy unit to attack your own unit?
11 replies
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WyattS14 (8 D (B))
15 Jan 17 UTC
Med Game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=189125 This game is with 2 other friends of mine, and we couldn't get a full group together. We are in no way metagaming. The password is lollol
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WyattS14 (8 D (B))
15 Jan 17 UTC
Posting password games in forum?
Was wondering if I could post a game's password I'm playing with two other friends in the forum? Two others couldn't join last minute
2 replies
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Matticus13 (2212 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
(+1)
Best way to learn code
I want to learn how to code, but am having trouble deciding where to start. Their are many free resources, online classes, boot camps, etc. I would prefer to teach myself, but lack the knowledge to know what language I should be learning first and so on. Any tips from the experienced code writers here on WebDip?
47 replies
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taos (281 D)
15 Jan 17 UTC
what happens when to fleets convoy the same army to the same point?
?
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snowy801 (621 D)
15 Jan 17 UTC
Stalemate Gaming
Is there a rule against holding a stalemate indefinitely even though the situation is clear? I think he's hoping the rest of us give up and leave, which if it isn't against the rules yet then it should be.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=189100
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CAPT Brad (40 D X)
01 Jan 17 UTC
The Captain Will See You Now
I am starting my first long term gameID=187773 PM me for the password. It is one day turns and requires an eighty for reliability.
17 replies
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zultar (4170 D Mod (P))
12 Jan 17 UTC
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Removing Known World and Keeping World
See inside.
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CommanderByron (869 D (S))
04 Jan 17 UTC
PPSC discussion thread:
I don't particularly care for PPSC. But saw that another thread was having this discussion as a sidebar and thought it fair to start a discussion thread. There is reasonable support for PPSC and regardless of the majority opinion the minority's should be heard.
136 replies
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Jamiet99uk (35 D)
13 Jan 17 UTC
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Abolish Sum-Of-Squares scoring
Ok, so I understand some people don't like PPSC and don't want it back. I disagree. BUT let's talk about SOS instead. It's a terrible scoring system and is directly contrary to the rulebook.
45 replies
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CptMike (4309 D)
14 Jan 17 UTC
New varant porposal -> µVariant
I was wondering if the following Variant was not "easy" to develop and it brings a crazy number of exciting possibilities...
13 replies
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Sandman99 (100 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Where my Libertarians at?
Just wondering if I have any fellow Libertarians on this god-forsaken website
Fluminator (496 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Yeah buddy.
Matticus13 (2212 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
I find much in common with Libertarians, but I happen to be pro-potential life and think that regulation is a necessary evil (but still dislike it).
ishirkmywork (1407 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
So were you guys pleased with Gary johnson's performance? Thanks for that.
Fluminator (496 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
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Gary Johnson was just a Republican who smokes Pot.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
12 Jan 17 UTC
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God didn't forsake this site, because he didn't create in the first place.

Kestas rarely responds to people calling him God anyway...
Durga (2658 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Flum is a fake libertarian, don't be fooled.
Fluminator (496 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
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You're a fake socialist though.
Durga (2658 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Just because I don't like revolutionaries doesn't mean I'm a fake socialist.
Fluminator (496 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Just because I don't like private property, doesn't mean I'm not a libertarian.
y2kjbk (5402 D (G))
12 Jan 17 UTC
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Libertarianism is nice on paper but easily devolves into powerful individuals using that freedom to buy control of the state to protect their assets because who's to tell them they can't or even shouldn't under libertarian rule? Then you have big government Republican-like rule that is no longer libertarian. Admittedly this is very similar to the pitfall from the other side of democratic socialist rule that has the mission of creating large government to serve its citizens but is easily corrupted by big money that is allowed to influence policies more than the individual voter. The ideals of both libertarianism and socialism are noble but easily corrupted by individualistic greed that will ultimately corrode the liberties of a libertarian society or the justice in a socialist society.
Jamiet99uk (35 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
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This site is being actively manipulated by liberals and tumblrfags and does not reflect anything like mainstream opinion. Just so you know ;-)
WyattS14 (8 D (B))
12 Jan 17 UTC
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I like this site's community...
Fluminator (496 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Jamie, if you think this forum is overrun with liberals, I have some others I can show you.
DammmmDaniel (100 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Jamie this website is far from being purged of a liberal presence
Valis2501 (2057 D (G))
12 Jan 17 UTC
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Oh that reminds me gotta cash this month's Correct The WebDip check
orathaic (1009 D (B))
12 Jan 17 UTC
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@y2k - no, it is very different. In one case your money buys you into the powerful class. In the other the powerful class confiscates your money and thus become wealthy...
Jamiet99uk (35 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
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@Fluminator: I was making sarcastic reference to Fiedler's thread about liberals and tumblrfags manipulating the forum. Don't you remember it? It was on the front page for about 6 months.
Fluminator (496 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Oh lol. I missed it.
Jamiet99uk (35 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
The original thread was:

threadID=1216284

It spawned a number of parody threads including threadID=1216313
y2kjbk (5402 D (G))
12 Jan 17 UTC
Yes they are different orathaic, but the root cause of individualistic greed getting the better of a theoretically well intentioned way of governing is very similar, it's just different how the issue manifests itself.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
12 Jan 17 UTC
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Humans will exploit any system they get their hands on. That does not make all systems equally good or bad.

You could look at diplomacy websites, and argue over multi gamers, and what kind of system the site needs to have in place to prevent this kind of abuse. That is a common problem across web systems.

But the general problem is across all systems where humans interact for power/influence/status/personal gain (whether emotional, material, or otherwise)

But again, not all systems are equal. Big governments are associated with big states. The USA and USSR, smaller socialist states, like Iceland, don't experiece the kids of problems you described. It has more to do with the size (and thus total amount of power condensced in one organisation) that results in corruption on the level you are describing.

A libertarian/socialist paradise with only 150 individuals could probably run fantastically (based solely on peer pressure) but that doesn't mean i would tecommend implementing those systems on a scale of 100s of Millions of people.
CommanderByron (869 D (S))
13 Jan 17 UTC
I wouldn't consider myself a literal libertarian but it is the closest thing to my actual views. I think some government regulation is a nessecity; I am okay with federal systems such as healthcare and energy; I don't think government should interfere in your personal life but I think economy and security are open game.
CommanderByron (869 D (S))
13 Jan 17 UTC
I would say I'm a weird socialist-libertarian
AngelEyesGBU (127 D)
13 Jan 17 UTC
I'm *mostly* libertarian on domestic issues and the relationship between citizen and state. Too hawkish for the Libertarian Party, however.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
13 Jan 17 UTC
@CB, it is not weird at all.

The 'classical liberal' in european conversation maps fairly well onto libertarian.
Meanwhile the modern european liberal is closer to social liberal (so pro-government support, anti-government interference) - so at some point the definition moved from left to right...

(This wasn't the case in the US where the terms meant something else, history and geography confusing matters...)
eturnage (601 D (B))
14 Jan 17 UTC
I'm more of an anarchist. No matter what your big government system--socialist, democratic, libertarian--power and wealth corrupt the leadership. Therefore, the best system is to have no central government at all. Small communities can then coexist as socialist or libertarian without corruption. Of course, this is purely theoretical since the power vacuum is going to be filled ... and it will inevitably be filled, due to the root of evil in mankind, by an entity that wants to control and manipulate others.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
14 Jan 17 UTC
People kill each other. 1 + 1 > 1. Ergo, libertarianism fails.

Q.E.D.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
14 Jan 17 UTC
@'it will inevitably be filled'

Or immediately be filled by community level hierarchy. Which will slowly develop.

The question is why do you assume there will be no corruption at the community level? And what is the ideal scale for co-operation / corruption?


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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
13 Jan 17 UTC
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New Scoring System Proposal
I don’t know if this has been suggested but:
1. In draws have everyone alive share the pot equally (As they should because SoS is garbage)
2. In a solo, the soloist gains a portion of the pot equal to 18* divided by the number of centers controlled by the soloist or survivors (but not neutral centers or those of resigned powers) and the survivors split the remainder proportionally based on their center count.
*Or however many
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Chaqa (2672 D (B))
13 Jan 17 UTC
Known World Realistic Speed
gameID=188977

7 days/phase to imitate how long it used to take messengers to move around. Let's do this thing. Rulebook press just to speed it up a little, and because why not
3 replies
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LeonWalras (419 D)
09 Jan 17 UTC
ADVERTISE YOUR 1v1 GAMES HERE!
Is that the kind of thing that you think you might be into?
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David E. Cohen (100 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
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From the Creator of Known World 901
I guess I need to look in on this site more often!
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Rabid Acid Badger (50 D X)
13 Jan 17 UTC
Really want to test new map
Excites about this new map
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=188972 password 901109
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leon1122 (175 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Trump News Conference Discussion Thread
https://youtu.be/SUyAk0bYps0
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Randomizer (0 D)
07 Jan 17 UTC
Trump wants US to pay to Build the Wall
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/politics/border-wall-house-republicans-donald-trump-taxpayers/?iid=ob_article_footer_expansion

Trump wants US to pay for his wall and then try to bill Mexico for it.
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DammmmDaniel (100 D)
11 Jan 17 UTC
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Obama's Farewell Speech
I am a Diehard Republican believe it or not WepDip. But Obama's speech tonight has helped me realize many things tonight......

29 replies
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Chaqa (2672 D (B))
06 Jan 17 UTC
Going Away Game for the World Map
I wasn't a huge fan of it, but we should do a going away game for the World Map, similar to the Inaugural Known World 901 game we're running. Same deal, we get a mod to make the game the last one before they officially shut it off.
53 replies
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slypups (1889 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Bug in attempted Known World move
This game: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=187862
Attempted Daju to Makuran with Al-Qatta'i support. Somehow, the support is showing as cut, even though no unit attacked Al-Qatta'i. Also, the orders page is showing an error. Please help.
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The Diplomancer (0 D X)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Is it just me, or is it dumb that you can retreat into other people's territory?
I know it's the rules of the game and all, but I feel like it would make more sense if you could only retreat into your own territory or neutral territory.
13 replies
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slypups (1889 D)
04 Jan 17 UTC
So Long World Diplomacy IX
As some of you may have heard, the flawed World Dip IX map is going away. I made a game if you're interested in taking a final swing at this sucker: http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=188080
36 replies
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breaca (1246 D (G))
12 Jan 17 UTC
Which is more balanced 1-1?
How are the two 1-1s shaping up in terms of balance? The consensus on AvF seems to be that Austria usually wins. What about IvG? Do we have any stats to suggest which is a more balanced match?
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