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He was a great president. I am more than willing to put aside my political differences to acknowledge just how much Obama has contributed to this country. Whether or not we believe in the policies that he preached; that he enacted... he did it for the greater good. President Obama has done his best to help ALL Americans prosper in what he thought would be the best way possible.
In his speech tonight he put aside party differences (except for subtle jabs that would've existed anyways). He pulled together a heart wrenching speech that really helped me see just what HE was striving to accomplish as a person. it really helped me realize just why President Obama did what he did. I still am and probably always be a Republican, but Obama's speech tonight has helped me gain a new-found sense of respect for the Republican party and Obama personally.
His respect for his wife his staff and his daughters was deep and emotional. He showed that despite his 8 years in office he still found parenting to be the greatest honor ever.
The Obama that I witnessed tonight was one that may have existed from the beginning but I only saw just right now. Maybe it is the fact that this was the first president that I saw existing from office, but I really truly have gained a newfound sense of respect for the man.
I guess what I am really trying to say is that I can proudly say that I am glad that President Obama served for these past 8 years. He may not have been the president that I personally wanted but he did a damn good job.
Nice thoughts DD, giving respect to an impressive leader. Although I'm not a Trump fan, I hope he can do the same to move the country forward and improve the lot of Americans overall. Not optimistic, but still hoping he'll succeed.
Really enjoyed the part about how it is essential for former presidents to help new presidents into office regardless of parties (he mentioned bush helping him in) And Slypups even though I identify from a different party I respect Bipartisan efforts and good leaders overall. Obama has championed what is best for the people and I can honestly respect and agree with actions like that. He also has great leadership skills which are hard to miss.
A dark and evil heart. Completely unlike our next president who has never stiffed hard working people of pay desperately needed to feed their family. Or assaulted multiple women. Or had 3 marriages. At least he's not a lizard muslim. Smfh.
I thought the speech could have been better. The best farewell addresses delve into difficult, controversial, truths that implicate the speaker as much as the audience. They are the speeches we remember, not because they were civil, but because they are raw and honest. The two most memorable ones? Washington's entangling alliances, Eisenhowers military industrial complex. This was not that speech, it could have been, and probably should have been.
There's no denying Obama is a fantastic speech-reader, but there's also no denying he has been the second-worst president of this century.
The only positives in his eight years at the helm were some uplifting speeches and normalizing relations with Cuba. Aside from that, all he did was perpetuate all the worst policies of Bush II - endless wars, uncontrolled debt, hundreds of billions of dollars in graft disappearing into the hands of God knows who, a totalitarian police state that claims the legal right to murder its own citizens, extralegal prisons where people are held indefinitely without trial, destabilized an entire region resulting in the deaths of millions of people, armed American police better than most third-world militaries and then wondered why they're killing so many people, sicced federal "regulators" on businesses that failed to support him, had the IRS target political opponents, did nothing as his top officials lied to congress and the public over and over, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera...
And on top of that, he drove health care costs through the roof with Obamacare - giving us all the worst of both socialist and semi-capitalist health care systems, and requiring all Americans to pay a penalty for the heinous crime of existing.
Thanks, Obama. The saddest thing about you is that kids like Daniel think you're great, because you're the least terrible president they've ever known.
BAD: Smug man, not caring about any unification GOOD: Economy has improved in the last 8 years BAD: Gives zero shits about debt and has hurt our economy for years to come GOOD: Symbol of peace in the world BAD: By pulling out on any threat he gives foreign leaders. Also Benghazi. And ISIS's rise to prominence. And red line in Syria. And not inviting Israel to anti-terror conferences, but inviting Turkey. And leaking Israel strategies from state office. And seeing ZERO connection between Islam and Terrorist motives. At all. Not even 1%. GOOD: Equality in gay rights!!! BAD: By violating states rights, and also forcing churches to do ceremonies, and also... there's still gay discrimination in 39 (i think it is) states. so yeah GOOD: socialized healthcare...! (is this good???) BAD: Gives zero shits about debt and has- wait I typed this already. Oh. GOOD: first black President!!! BAD: led to first Orange President
Reagan - Turned tail and fled Lebanon at first major terrorist bombing, traded arms for hostages with Iran - showed the MidEast that the US would cave in at the first sign of trouble. Also his CIA hired Osama bin Ladin.
Bush I - Explained to Saddam Huissen how US spy satellites worked - Made it possible to hide during Gulf War I.
Clinton - Got the budget to run a surplus, increased US business sales abroad
Bush II - Got us bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan
I frequently visit another website, Fark.com. One person there posted a great list of Obama's accomplishments in the comments thread regarding last night's farewell address. There's a link to it below. The comment by "hugram" (#15) has a lot of information.
Maybe it will put Obama's presidency into better perspective for people with an open mind.
He isn't the entire arbiter of our economy, he is a part of fiscal policy, and he hasn't one well there. What, did you think there WASN'T going to be a recovery after 2008, and Obama is the ONLY reason we went back up??? bullshit. he did get us some stimulus boosts, but he's caused quite a bit of damage. Employee price index is going VERY high. Where's THAT?
Shoot all this debate is bringing the Red out of me... Come on guys lets give the man a little respect... Running a nation isn't the easiest job out there. He deserves some credit. Sure he made some mistakes but didn't every president do so?
Tolstoy: No, you're part of the problem. The first half of your rant made harsh, valid critiques that those in the left make. You could have continued by accusing Obama with harsh realities like extending the Bush tax cuts. Instead you delve into the world of conspiratorial Fox News fantasy with accusations that the Obama administration manipulated regulators and the IRS.
We need to be honest with ourselves about where the Democratic establishment has failed us if we don't want to be stuck with maniacs like Trump for years to come.
Firstly I'll bet pal Putin is laughing all the way from Kremlin to Swiss banks. He could probably buy the "Trump financial Empire" with chump change from his $US 40+ billion private fortune. It'll definitely be interesting to see how the Republican party in full.control of Congress and Senate & Trump go over the next four.( or eight years ?) and how that plays out. For example, after say two years of Trump, is there a response at State level, will elections for state governors show a continuation of support from Republicans or will there be a swing to the Democrats at that level, or with the big city councils...the levels below Federal might be where the Democrats have to build strength in before recovering at the Federal level ?
I wasn't a huge fan of it, but we should do a going away game for the World Map, similar to the Inaugural Known World 901 game we're running. Same deal, we get a mod to make the game the last one before they officially shut it off.
This game: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=187862 Attempted Daju to Makuran with Al-Qatta'i support. Somehow, the support is showing as cut, even though no unit attacked Al-Qatta'i. Also, the orders page is showing an error. Please help.
Hey Kiddos someone has to carry Krellin's weight around here! Join up for the greatest So-N-So game yet!!!! No safe spaces,no bitching or crying allowed! Leave your feelings at the sign up button because they will get destroyed!!! We need to continue the legacy of helping bring people closer together via insults!!
I figured we should have a thread where people who have questions about specific games can post them and ask. I got this idea quite selfishly: gameID=188647 What could I have done better in this game as Germany?
I'm currently participating in two ongoing games on the new world map. 15 different empires to start, so I should have a 1/15 odds of drawing any empire. I drew the same empire twice in a row... That should be a 1/225 occurrence if the draws were random, or even less if it weights other empires higher after I've drawn that specific empire (to increase variety, which I believe mods have confirmed happens, at least in Classic). Should I play the lottery, or is this a bug?
I am looking for 6 people with 80%RR or higher to play against me in a "classroom" game of sorts. I'm going to be mentored by an undisclosed mod during the game, and I would like some good competition for this round. Game ID is below.