idiot .... shut up and go away

Seriously. Invictus is right. You are the biggest twat on the forum. So how come you are allowed to post?

Shut up Draug, this is about Obi, not you. Try saying something nice for a change

Nigee, seriously, fuck off. You're an annoying asshole who contributes nothing to the forums, and it's getting old.

Why hijack a love Obi thread with your bile, say something nice about Obi and then start your own hate Nigee thread you banana-head

I think Obi is a great guy. One doesn't need to agree with his points of view to appreciate his intellect and his vast knowledge of literature.

Agreed. I only really have problems with Obi when he's talking about sports or not talking in game. Even considering length, most of his posts are much nicer to read than those of, say, Nigee or krellin.

I appreciate it, Nigee, but that's not necessary--

And if people want to talk shit, let them talk shit.

I open myself up to it after all...

I can't run my mouth the way I do AND expect not to get slammed...

Just because I'm in a pissed off mood over a game and a lack of job doesn't change that.

I know it doesn't add or help but I once met Dan Marino, now there is an inspirational character

if it makes you feel better there was a few minutes today where i seriously considered the career path of the garbage man

lmao

@Thucy - you're just talking rubbish

Hey, refuse engineers make damned good money.

In socialist union run nations like the US, perhaps. In the UK they get in the region of 17-20 grand. Calling them engineers is just wrong, though.

The big easy money is to be found on the railways. Thousands of people being paid a small fortune for sitting on their arses.

Oh, out of respect to the OP... That Obi chap... bit of a tit at times, but a good egg on the quiet.

You guys are all so funny... the good money is obviously in the restaurant business, education, and political science.

The *good* money is in IT, especially hardware engineering, networking, and software engineering. But for what they do, garbage men (refuse engineers) make a good living. But considering the crap they deal with daily, they earn it.

And Oct - I used that term facetiously because of the way it has been coopted for housewives (domestic engineers), janitors (sanitation engineers), and others. Pretty soon teachers will be societal engineers or some such chit.

If you want to make serious money, get a trade like Electrician, Plumber, or HVAC. They fucking rake in the money after their apprenticeship.

Electricians. Yes, electricians. My neighbor owns his own electrical business (he is the electrician and has a few coops form the local trade school help run cable and his wife does the accounting) and he rakes it in. He is good to the neighbors though, and only charges them for materials (no mark up) and his coop labor costs provided we return the favor in our businesses. :-)

Nigee you are the lowest form of amphibian shit.

Why? I don't know, but I thought I'd just jump on the bandwagon and slam you up a bit.

"slam you up a bit." I think Nigee's mom put on her strap-on and did that to him and his dad last night.

Hey oh!!!

That's the last time I try and cheer someone up

Oh, and Oct: $17-20K is barely minimum wage in the US. 17-20k pounds (12-15K US) is below minimum wage here.

http://www.infobarrel.com/List_of_Trash_Collector_Salaries_by_State

Looks like typical is around $16-$17 US (24-25 pounds) per hour plus overtime at time and a half.

Who's obiwan? Did I miss some comments?

@Draug, what's a dad? are you my daddy? Mummy said he was a right bastard....

@ Draug

I think you'll find 17-20k pounds is more akin to 27-31k US. Pounds are worth more than dollars, British pints are bigger than US pints. Easy rule of thumb "British is best" ;)

Also... how the hell can you have huge variation in salaries like that without massive labour disputes?!? I can sort of understand a bit of extra money for workers in Alaska and places with significantly higher costs of living, but the scale of the variation seems insane.

"(To Nigee) Seriously. Invictus is right. You are the biggest twat on the forum..."

You mean I have lost my title?

Geez you guys .... I think I love you all :-)

Yeah, I reversed that. Sorry, Oct.

Yeah, krellin, you sobered up.

@Oct - The scale of cost of living and median incomes varies from state to state. Indiana, where bo_sox lives, for instance, has a median house price of about 25-130k. Ohio is significantly higher. Kentuckies is lower overall (although regionally, northern Kentucky is higher than most fo the rest of Kentucky). Remember, the contiguous 48 US states is damn near as big as the entirity of Europe ad has a lot more diversity in cost of living, education levels, etc. Each state is more akin to a European country.

3 Months and counting...

Keep it up my friend. I am so proud of you. Now if only we could loosen up obi so he'd drink and smoke and gamble and fuck something (male or female, I don't care).

"Lets cheer up obiwanobiwan ..... he's a good guy" Shouldn't this entire thread be in the "Most Ridiculous Comment" thread?

"has a median house price of about 25-130k" - it's getting silly :) Also, the diversity difference you claim is not quite true… In the 27 (not 50?) states that make up Europe, you have average income levels between 75k to 350 € ( times 1.3 to get $) a year, and a population of roughly 540m people (which is closer to the double of 300m than nearly as big)… It is nice to be seen from the outside as one common place, though - it give hope for the future it may once become truth ;) Or as a friend of mine once said: Moving from Berlin to Paris is the same as moving Tokyo to Osaka (though I might have put the analogy inversely).

the REAL money is in slangin

I meant 125-130k by the way. :-)

it's still not a real median, but I'll take it as a viable approximation :) missing information includes: how big a house you'll get for this (where I live the equivalent corresponds to a 2 room flat with balcony in a medium ranked neighbourhood).

125-130K is a nice down payment on a house in San Francisco. You'll still probably need to pay PMI (median $789K asking).

X3n0n - I said in Indiana. And it doesn't matter the size. Median is middle aka typical. So the typical home bought in Indiana costs a little over 125k. The typical home.in Cali is closer to 800k. Ohio is around 200k.

What you get for 200k depends on the part of town. Where I live it is a 2 story 4 bedroom around 40 years old on half an acre or so. Want new and they start around 275k and are smaller lots.

Thx, Draugnar - I pretty much know what the median is, but to make sense of it, I'd like to know what the typical house is. Where I live, typical would be considered a 4 room flat with balcony, 40 years old, price 600k, but older or bigger climbs the log-ladder (guess that is the difference between the old and new continent). If I were to buy your house here, it'd get me up to 1.3 or 1.4 easily.

Not likely. My house is a 3 bedroom brick ranch with partially finished basement and add on family room - 53 years old on just under 2/3rds of an acre. Current value just over 100k but I bought it off foreclosure for 45k. Had to do lots of work (another 50k in repairs) to get it livable.

"3 months and counting..."

You quit after Obama won the election and I made you rethink your existence, didn't you?

You're welcome.

sounds great, draugnar! and you are right, a ranch you wouldn't find here :)

To clarify, a ranch is a one story house. I jist meant the house I previously described was different amd more expensive than what I live in (although I love my old brick ranch and my big lot full of pear and apple trees).