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Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Sep 12 UTC
@Bob Genghiskahn...
I'm watching Bill and Ted and the guys just introduced you to Missy. Can't wait for you to trash the sporting goods store.
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Skittles (1014 D)
02 Sep 12 UTC
EOG: Symphony of terror; aka the dumbest game in the history of webdip
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MichiganMan (5121 D)
01 Sep 12 UTC
Live WTA-GB 57 EoG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=98484

Germany CD's, everyone votes to Draw, but not SplitDiplomat. Nope, he votes to Cancel/Pause. What a joke. Split, you are the ultimate KING of playing through CD's. You're a piece of work.
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krellin (80 DX)
01 Sep 12 UTC
Need ONE Fantasy Football Manager
Need ONE....just one....

Yahoo.League 651742
Password: webdip
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President Eden (2750 D)
27 Aug 12 UTC
Here comes a storm!
Post all Hurricane Isaac related news here.

I would normally be worried, but, well, you know. The land has ways of shutting down them storms to make sure they don't do too much damage, so as long as it's a legitimate hurricane I think we'll be okay.
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ava2790 (232 D(S))
01 Sep 12 UTC
Classy revenge prank - seeking suggestions/accomplices
See inside for details.
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Sandgoose (0 DX)
31 Aug 12 UTC
the leagues...2012
i never got an email or my invitation but i see that some games have started...someone want to tell me what the hell is going on?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
25 Aug 12 UTC
Help for all you Webdip freeloaders ......
Just use this link ..... sign in to Paypal and do the right thing, you know you want to, you'll feel a lot better when you've done it, like giving blood but easier :-)
https://www.paypal.com/au/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=r5kSzbe_mLYlkr_XofJ0MHSEP5uNS1j0hSCK1TXSdVexz3icKYZhP1SWdoi&dispatch=50a222a57771920b6a3d7b606239e4d529b525e0b7e69bf0224adecfb0124e9b61f737ba21b08198d4932d04262264a8f2ad7cb498e6e144

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dangermouse (5551 D)
01 Sep 12 UTC
How I broke my computer with Avast
So, I ran a full scan with Avast yesterday and it found several thousand files that it classified as threats. I looked through them a bit, many seemed to be .dlls but but without giving it a lot of thought I instructed Avast to attempt repairs. This seems to have been a terrible mistake.
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Sydney City (0 DX)
01 Sep 12 UTC
First day of Spring
WOO HOO!
That is.... for all Southern Hemisphere peoples:)
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DrCJG (1228 D)
01 Sep 12 UTC
Need 2 more for an introductory game.... starts in 2.5 hrs
Game: Duke 1L
Password: Iqbal
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
30 Aug 12 UTC
Racist Republicans...... in 2012, in the USA
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19414600

This is so incredulous I'm posting it again......a black camerawoman gets nuts chucked at her by racist Republican supporters
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First of all, I'm kind of surprised that you think "do right and fight wrong" is overemotional, shrill invective. You're as bad as obi when it comes to picking nice-sounding words out of a dictionary to throw around to sound intelligent. But I digress.

Secondly, multiple people asked directly about that story in Wisconsin, and we got the "Fuck white people for complaining about any race-related grievances that they run into, they don't get to complain because things are usually good for them" response. If that's not tacitly approving, or at least refusing to condemn, blatantly obvious wrong, I don't know what is. God knows you'd call me out on it if I were in his position and did that.

But more to the point: You're not getting the point of the opposition here. It's not that you guys are making things up about a power structure that favors one group and marginalizes others. I, at least, acknowledge reality, that this is so, and it is wrong. And while it's clear not everyone in opposition to that point acknowledges it, the point *I* am making is that you can acknowledge this and still ultimately agree with the other side's main point.

That main point is:

Wrong is wrong.

Notice that no one here is saying that throwing peanuts at a black camerawoman and calling her an animal is right. That's because it isn't. It's wrong. It's obvious that it's wrong.

The complaint from the other side is that reporting on race-based issues is all screwed up, on all sides. Priorities are all messed up. I think the link I posted from my earlier thread demonstrates this even without bringing up things done to white people. We have this story, getting constant coverage on a national level. Stupid white people being racist jerks to a black camerawoman. Yes, this is bad, and yes, it deserves to be called out.

So does the story I posted, about a black man being killed for no good reason by white police. That's far more serious than peanuts and a camerawoman, sorry. Someone actually died from an act of, if not overt racism, then surely pretty clearly racist sentiment an inch under the surface. That is far more serious than racist taunts. Yet the racist taunts get full coverage because they score political points, where the far more serious wrong gets, to quote Tolstoy earlier, two minutes of throwaway time, since it can't be used as political capital.

That, to me, demonstrates a real problem with solving the race relations question. It, like everything else, is being scooped up, bastardized, and flung around like a rhesus monkey's excrement for political gains by both sides. Republicans got a black speaker to talk about hard work so they can claim to be racially inclusive. A pro-Democrat media constantly runs a story where a couple of Republicans act like racist morons so the Democrats look better during an election season. There's no legitimate end to what is ostensibly a noble means; the good act of calling out racism is just being used for cheap points in a fierce election season.

That the story about white people getting attacked got similarly ignored, then, isn't evidence of societal "reverse" racism. (Side note, who coined this term? It's stupid. Racism is racism. "Reverse" is unnecessary.) Coupled with aforesaid story of a black guy's murder being ignored, it's instead painting a broader brush that further complicates not only race relations but everything else: that the people on top of the social hierarchy don't care about fixing problems, just trying to herd those on the bottom into helping them maintain or expand their strength on the top.

You don't solve it by bemoaning racism done only by white people. All that does is dehumanize white people who actually do receive race-related suffering. There is no excuse for the victim-blaming that Mafia did with his comment in response to the incident cited. None at all. Victim-blaming is wrong no matter who the victim is. Black people don't deserve to be victimized due to their race. White people don't deserve to be victimized due to their race. NO ONE deserves to be victimized due to their race. It is ALWAYS WRONG when someone is victimized due to their race.

And to make a serious stand to end the problem of victimization due to race, ALL INSTANCES of such victimization need to be condemned and called out. The problem I see with yours and with Mafia's position is that you don't go far enough. You've both done a wonderful job of doing this when it comes to marginalized people, and you've both opened my eyes to marginalization I didn't see before, marginalization I wrote off, marginalization that without y'all I wouldn't be fighting out of my own ignorance. You've done a hell of a job with it. Now let's take it a step further and fight *all* wrong.

That's the origin of the opposition to what you're saying. It isn't that you're wrong about racism being used as a tool for political ends. It's that you're not being consistent in opposing that use.

Wrong is wrong is wrong.
Mafialligator (239 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
What victim blaming? I'm not getting that at all, please, if you feel I've victim blamed call me out on it.
I suspect however that I've actually been misinterpreted. Given all the words that have been put in my mouth today that is the statistically most likely outcome.

I will never say that someone deserves to be beaten up because they're white. And I will never defend someone who assaults someone. I am strictly non-violent.
That said, the argument that the media seeks to erase white victimhood at the hands of people of colour is laughable and obscures the reality of a culture which continually paints various people of colour as dangerous and is often eager to put forth narratives of white victimhood.

It is also true that violence, and even racial hatred against whites, while undoubtedly a bad thing, does not have the same damaging effect on the white population as a whole. I don't in any way mean to minimize the suffering of those people, but overemphasizing the suffering of white victims in those cases that exist erases the trials of all the countless people of colour who are the victims of violent crimes that we never even hear about.

Yes, it is absolutely true that some people hate white people. But power structures matter, and white people using the existence of such events to dismiss the marginalization of other groups only serves to make the problems of racism worse, not better.
Mafialligator (239 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
Also the other problem is this:
Every single time we try to have a discussion of racism in these forums the conversation ends up focusing on the victimization of white people.
Every time we try to talk about rape, we end up talking endlessly about all the poor suffering men who had to suffer through rape accusations, completely drowning out any conversation about wider rape culture.
Every time we try to talk about LGBT issues it becomes about how the LGBT community doesn't respect straight people and their rights to be ignorant douchebags.
And I often feel like I'm the only person who sees the problem with this, and who realizes that maybe framing all these discussions around the ALREADY POWERFUL GROUPS is a bad thing, and as a result of my essentially lone attempts to move the conversation back to where the oppression is worst, I'm accused of being racist against white people, sexist against men and heterophobic.

And I'm sick and tired of being dismissed, mocked, insulted, and vilified for actually being essentially the only person in the forums educated about real anti-oppression movements, and for being unwilling to coddle privilege. It's difficult to accept that we all may have a hand in these unjust power structures, but we do. It's time we all wised up stopped worrying about ourselves, and actually started thinking about the lives of others.

You know why you all hate me so much? Because you're all white men, and the overwhelming majority of you are straight. You all have so much privilege you're not used to getting called out. You're not used to talking about these issues with someone who does not treat you nicely, and wear the kid gloves to avoid bruising your precious privilege. You're not used to tackling these issues without having everyone pay lip service to the idea that we're all equally victims of racism, and sexism, and that there's equal fault on all sides, and we should all just try to get along. Bullshit. Racism does not affect us all equally. Sexism does not effect us all equally. Oppression in general does not effect us all equally. Some people have more power than others. And guess what guys, those people are US.

So next time you read a post from me, spend 2 fucking seconds to try and get over your SADFEELS (oh poor you, did the big mean alligator say you were racist ='( ) at being called out, and try and actually understand what it is I'm really saying. But before you try that, go educate yourselves about basic anti-racism and feminism, at least, because the degree of ignorance on these forums is appalling.

(There are a handful of exceptions to this angry rant. You know who you are.)
Tolstoy (1962 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
"That said, the argument that the media seeks to erase white victimhood at the hands of people of colour is laughable"

If it's laughable, why couldn't I find a single media story that got nationwide coverage about any of the incidences of mass anti-white racial violence I linked to? Why is it that the Virginia Pilot was so hesitant to cover the mob beating OF THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES that a columnist had to call the editors out over it weeks later?

"racial hatred against whites, while undoubtedly a bad thing, does not have the same damaging effect on the white population as a whole."

This is the whole problem with marxists (and marxist influence). They do not believe that individual people have feelings; classes are all that matter. There are no individuals. White people in poor neighborhoods are not traumatized by being beaten and having a gun put to their heads by black gangbangers for walking down the wrong street while white, because *other* white people who were born in The Hamptons with silver spoons up their rear ends are over represented on corporate boards of directors on Wall Street. I honestly cannot wrap my mind around this line of thinking, and am tempted to chalk it up to simple anti-white racism. Is Marxism really this obtuse?

"power structures matter"

I wholeheartedly agree that power structures matter. But this isn't the 1950's any more. Dubya appointed a black man to be his chief foreign policy emissary (no 'token' selection by any means), a black woman to be his chief national security adviser, and a Hispanic Attorney General. Obama has an unquestionably multi-racial cabinet, where white people are underrepresented in relation to their demographic statistics. Many Republicans practically worship people like Alan West, Alan Keyes, and JC Watts. The second-highest rated afternoon AM radio talk show in the Los Angeles market is hosted by a black man. The CEO of the last company to employ me as a W-2 employee was black - he had over a thousand employees working for him in 6 states. The company which today constitutes about half my income is owned/run by a Jew; I'm one of only two white people he signs a check for, out of about 15 people (most are Asian). A clear majority of the direct supervisors I've worked for in my life have been something other than white. In the contracting work I do that makes up the other half of my income, the people I find myself working alongside on jobs are black as often as not, and they are doing the same work for generally the same pay as I am (which is relatively good money, when there is work to be had). The mayor of my city, as well as the mayor of the City of Los Angeles, are both Hispanic.

I'll be the first in line to criticize America when she is wrong, and I think no one will deny I do it fairly often. Maybe my viewpoint is skewed by the environment here in Southern California where I live (where whites are statistically a demographic minority), but one thing I feel this country can no longer be accused of anymore is a systematic racism where it is *impossible* for anyone but WASPs to get ahead in life without a government handout.

I do not deny that power structures dominated by white people exist in this country (generally in the northeast, where white people are a clear majority - an area which is supposed to be all progressive and racially conscious). But there is not a whole lot of solidarity among and between white people to the extent that a white corporate executive or manager will shoot himself in the foot by hiring a less qualified honky over a more non-qualified non-honky. And heck, a lot of times, it isn't even a whitey making the call - IIRC, the CEO of Citigroup is an Indian-American, for instance. This country has had some bad moments when it comes to race, but those are all clearly in the past. Someone may find a few stories where a non-white wasn't hired or promoted because of racial bias, but for every such story I'm sure I could find two (or five) where a white person was discriminated against in the name of "affirmative action". This isn't 1950 any more. "Separate but equal" has been dead longer than any of us have been alive. Rosa Parks was arrested when my parents were both still in diapers. Nations and societies change. It's time we acknowledged that.
Mafialligator (239 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
OK first of all Tolstoy, I'm not a Marxist. None of the framework from which I am approaching this debate draws anything at all from Marx. Second of all, classism is also a form of oppression. And yes you're right, working class white people also suffer class based oppression. But that does not mean they aren't also a part of racist oppression too. This is called intersectionality. Look it up.

I'm glad you agree power structures matter, but your evaluation of current power structures is so wildly disconnected from reality, that any discussion with you is kinda meaningless.
You really think white privilege only exists in the Northeast? Don't get me wrong, the Northeastern united states is racist. In a broken clock sort of way you have said something true there. Just so is the southeast, and the mid west, and the deep south, and the west coast, and Hawaii and Alaska. In order to say racism is over in the US you'd have to ignore what the vast majority of American people of colour have been trying to say for decades, and they would know.
You're right, times change, societies change, why does that necessarily mean racism is gone? Why is that the only thing that can change. Wake up and listen Tolsoty, racism is alive and well. But as you so eloquently put it, it's changed.
Tolstoy (1962 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
"OK first of all Tolstoy, I'm not a Marxist. None of the framework from which I am approaching this debate draws anything at all from Marx. "

Pleased to hear you think so. But the pernicious influence of Marx has completely infiltrated Western Civilization, and all thinking in the west about race, class, gender, and power are tainted by it whether you know it or not. The Communist Manifesto is required reading for just about every history major in the western world. I know because I was required to read it. His influence stretches farther than you imagine, even if you do not realize it - your arguments about race and sex whisper his name.

"your evaluation of current power structures is so wildly disconnected from reality, that any discussion with you is kinda meaningless."

Power structures matter. But look at Dubya's regime. High positions in government were assigned not on the basis of skin pigmentation, but on loyalty to the Bush family and (extremely arguably) ability. Consequently you see servants of the Bush Sr. regime like Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice elevated to the highest offices of government on the basis of their loyalty to and support for the Bush family, completely independent of their melanin levels. The last nearly-all white/Christian/male cabinet - people who came of age during WWII - was Bush Senior's, which was twenty years ago. This country has changed since then. Elitist New England WASPs have been attending classes at Harvard and Yale with the children of people who grew up in third world countries without electricity or plumbing for decades. If you think this has no effect on how things work at the top, you're a fool. Just look at how far Barry O. has gotten with his non-white dermal layers, or Bobby Jindal. If there was a serious white power elite conspiracy to keep non-whites from gaining power, how could either of these people gotten ahead as far as they have?

"so is the southeast... and the deep south"

Where blacks are emigrating to from other parts of the country in large enough numbers to be statistically significant. I hardly think they'd be pulling stakes from northern and midwestern states if "racism" was such the dominant factor of life in the south it is made out to be.

"In order to say racism is over in the US you'd have to ignore what the vast majority of American people of colour have been trying to say for decades, and they would know."

I don't deny that racism is over, but it is insignificant enough that the biggest racism stories of the year are some yahoo throwing peanuts around and the (arguable) self-defense shooting of a black male by a hispanic male who the media felt compelled to paint as white to garner ratings - going so far as to doctor his photographs to make him appear paler than he actually is. Where are the lynchings and cross-burnings of decades past? If these are the heights of White Patriarchist Oppression in our age, I'd say non-whites and non-males don't have a whole lot to worry about.
smcbride1983 (517 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
Later this evening, instead of posting in this thread, I will be handing out feces for everyone to fling.
Stressedlines (1559 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-09-07/justice/new.york.beating_1_milligan-beating-buffalo-police?_s=PM:CRIME

http://americanlivewire.com/interracial-couple-says-white-boyfriend-was-beaten-for-dating-a-black-girl-while-on-a-walk-in-the-park/

One of these is from Buffalo, one from Savannah.

Now these stories I bring up because, these both involved a black and white couple, just the difference being the couple was White Man, black woman.

Again, reverse things, and the world will have ended.
Mafialligator (239 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
Stressedlines, do you know that really though? Look, you can point to stories here and there, but the fact is, people of colour are the victims of violent racially motivated crime ALL THE TIME.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2010/narratives/hate-crime-2010-victims
According to the FBI, "Among the single-bias hate crime incidents in 2010, there were 3,949 victims of racially motivated hate crime. A closer examination of these victim data showed that:

70.0 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-black bias.
17.7 percent were victims of an anti-white bias."

70% of the time in 2010, the world would have ended? I doubt it.

@ Tolstoy - Individual instances of people of colour rising to political prominence don't disprove racism as a whole. They show the ways in which the forms of racism we think about have changed, and you're right, that wouldn't have been possible years ago. It is still the case however that in politics and other high prestige (and high paying) professions, people of colour are still vastly underrepresented.
Draugnar (0 DX)
31 Aug 12 UTC
"It is still the case however that in politics and other high prestige (and high paying) professions, people of colour are still vastly underrepresented. "

While this may be true. Racism cannot be blamed for this so much as social inequity in general. Poor people, even with brains, have a harder time getting even a high school education due to the conditions in which they are raised and they find ti even more challenging to get into undergraduate programs because the scholarships are so rare. And while both black and white are poor, the simple fict is that the black community is over represented in the lower socioeconomic blasses and under represented in the upper classes, so they are competing for very few scholarships and grants. So it's less a racial issue and more a socioeconomic issue , but hte disproportionate representation makes it look racial. and, unfortunately, as long as we have that disproportionate class make up, we will continue to have an underrepresentation of blacks in high level positions.

The best thing for a black person is for them to be a recent immigrant. I know several gentlemen from Africa who came here as teens with parents who were able to be middle class here and they have gone on to better their parent's status and become upper middle as software developers like myself.
SacredDigits (102 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
The affirmative action thing is a pretty big red herring. An employer is not required to tell you why they chose not to hire you, and while people often suspect that affirmative action is the cause of it when they see a minority or woman hired instead of them, just that very thought process is pretty racist. "They didn't hire me but hired that black person...must be affirmative action because he can't possibly be better than me." No employer ever is going to call you and say, "I'm sorry, Mr. Tolstoy, you're perfectly qualified, except you're not black enough."

That said, I realize there's documented cases where people have won workplace discrimination suits by proving that they were more qualified than people who actually got the job, the firefighters in...Massachusetts, I think it was? However, very few jobs have that kind of standardized test that you can pull up and check. In general, though, the majority of people who claim that this was a problem in their hiring have absolutely no way to prove it. Meanwhile, studies show conclusively that if you submit a resume with a name that sounds African-American and a name that sounds white but are otherwise identical, you're extremely more likely to get an interview scheduled with the white name.

I'm white, but I've adopted a black son. I can definitely see instances of racism both ways still happening. For instance, he actually had a schoolteacher that would do his work for him because "it might be too hard for him"...despite the fact that she didn't do that for any other student in the class, including ones that scored worse on standardized tests than him (he was actually one of the top scorers). On the other side of it, our adoption was extremely complicated because there were concerted efforts to discredit us once it got to the adoption stage (they had no real issues with us as foster parents), including the black lawyer who supposedly represented him trying very hard to block it. Said lawyer was an outspoken critic of allowing blacks to be adopted by whites and had no other reason to fight us other than that belief.
SacredDigits (102 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
"While this may be true. Racism cannot be blamed for this so much as social inequity in general. Poor people, even with brains, have a harder time getting even a high school education due to the conditions in which they are raised and they find ti even more challenging to get into undergraduate programs because the scholarships are so rare. And while both black and white are poor, the simple fict is that the black community is over represented in the lower socioeconomic blasses and under represented in the upper classes, so they are competing for very few scholarships and grants. So it's less a racial issue and more a socioeconomic issue , but hte disproportionate representation makes it look racial. and, unfortunately, as long as we have that disproportionate class make up, we will continue to have an underrepresentation of blacks in high level positions."

Completely true, but that overrepresentation in lower demographics is a legacy of the more extreme eras of racism, so racism is to blame, but more a historical racism than a current racism.
Draugnar (0 DX)
31 Aug 12 UTC
"that overrepresentation in lower demographics is a legacy of the more extreme eras of racism, so racism is to blame, but more a historical racism than a current racism. "

I agree completely. I was more saying modern day racism isn't to blame. But yes, historical racism (and not just pre-civil war, but up until the 50s and 60s) has a lot to do with the "herding" (for lack of a better term) of minorities into low income communities (aka "ghettos") separated from the more affluent ones.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
31 Aug 12 UTC
It was only two Republican supporters after all who thought a reference to a black woman being like a monkey pretty damn funny ..... how many other Republicans are out there thinking exactly the same but are just too scared to say it.
Honesty is the best policy, how many Republican supporters feel the urge to refer to black people as monkeys, or foreigners, or slaves, or illegal aliens, or Muslims.
Isn't is just frickin A, why not get a gun and shoot the lot of them just in case they support that suicide bomber Obama, then the damn spics, useless bunch of mothers, once you start a'hating there's no stopping ya, save the noose for the gays and the stake for the witches who have their pregnancies terminated.
Wtf, the GoP has some cavemen in it...... what is wrong with you people !!
Stressedlines (1559 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
Nigee, since you decided not to read, I think all Americans here agreed racism is alive and well in America, andit comes from all sides.
smcbride1983 (517 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
Here, Here,Sacred Digits!
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
31 Aug 12 UTC
Stressed, I'm only joshing. I appreciate the fact that America is a huge melting pot of different cultures and ethnic backgrounds and from time to time it causes tension, completely understandable.
I also appreciate that the world over lesser educated are attracted by the argument that their plight is somehow linked to immigrants who they don't know or understand.
What I found disappointing is people like Romney pandering to the ignorant racists with his comments about birth certificates, very disappointing and sad to see senior politicians doing this..... no class !!
You know, when it comes to race, Europeans here really ought to check the planks in their own eyes before criticizing the specks in Americans'. I'm pretty sure we've moved past calling black athletes monkeys, something that a far wider swath of you backwoods Neanderthals can't seem to get over from the looks of your typical taunts at SOCCER games.

...

See, Nigee? We can all play that game. Shut up and let the adults continue the discussion, please.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
31 Aug 12 UTC
+1 for the Pres who has moved past calling black athletes monkeys; well done me old china, you're doing very well ..... you may not have heard but your Republican comrades are feeding black camerawoman peanuts, they probably thought she was a little salt deficient, so thoughtful :-)
SacredDigits (102 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
Hey Europe, have you stopped making gas chamber hisses when your team plays Jewish owned Ajax?

Didn't think so.
Putin33 (111 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
The riots were in the north because the south ethnically cleansed their black populations. Ever heard of the great migration? Yeah, congratulate yourself for that.
Putin33 (111 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
You are from Stormfront, stressed lines.
Putin33 (111 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
The firefighters case is one on which the white persecution complex trumped the facts. The fact is firefighting has been exclusively white for generations.
Putin33 (111 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
I enjoy it when a bunch of white males convince themselves modern racism isnt a big deal.
Friendly Sword (636 D)
01 Sep 12 UTC
Or if it is, everyone is somehow equally at fault and equally harmed.... :P
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/bd4bbda3d3/white-privilege-vodka?rel=featured
Fasces349 (0 DX)
01 Sep 12 UTC
I can guarentee those 2 where democrats trying to make the republicans look bad.

Something similar happened in Canada last elections where some liberals entered a conservative convention and tried to disrupt it.
AffluentJews (0 DX)
01 Sep 12 UTC
Divide and conquer my friend. Divide and conquer.


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Zmaj (215 D(B))
01 Sep 12 UTC
EoG: Mum's the word
Some people just weren't that good...
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jabberjawsjr (100 D)
01 Sep 12 UTC
Need a sitter
I need a sitter from tomorrow to Monday. Its a couple day period but you only need to log in once, after the phase change of gameID=92739 . PM me if you are interested.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
26 Aug 12 UTC
****Every forum needs its characters****
Ant there are a few on here that I have muchly enjoyed.
I will name a few and please feel free to do likewise.
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MichiganMan (5121 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
Go Blue!
Just about 24 hours until Michigan takes on the defending National Champion Alabama.

Go Blue!
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Tasnica (3366 D)
21 Jul 12 UTC
Dubmdell Gunboat Invitational
Figured that I would re-make this thread, since at least one of the 14 games has concluded.
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Mapu (362 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
17-17 game...
I'm in a 17-17 game as Carthage. Pretty exciting -- it looks like I have an opening in Dalmatia to get the win:

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=97378#gamePanel
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
Republican National Convention Speeches
Evaluations so far, and then afterward, when Romney's given his?
(To go first--don't agree with him, obviously, but CLINT EASTWOOD IS HILARIOUS!) xD

Can he follow that? Do ya feel lucky, Romney? Well, do ya? ;)
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Mapu (362 D)
27 Aug 12 UTC
I need some Pro Tips please!
I've been playing on the site for a few weeks now after playing the board game several times in the past. The thing I am finding the most difficult is being too trusting.
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tarspaceheel (503 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
Gunboating as Italy
Is there anything to be done? I'm just coming off of my second gunboat in a row being assigned Italy, and I'm finding that Italy's already-weak position in a standard-press game quickly turns disastrous without the ability to negotiate with potential allies.

Is there any way to help this situation? Anyone with experience winning, or at least getting a strong draw with Italy?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
25 Aug 12 UTC
****** It's Official ******
........ Romney is a complete fuckwit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19372536

Is he trying to lose on purpose, the man is an idiot !!
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
28 Aug 12 UTC
For Once, I Have Sympathy For...Ron Paul?
http://news.yahoo.com/gop-convention-floor-fight-averted-005806537--abc-news-politics.html I dislike Paul. I don't like his politics, and I'm iffy on his character. Even still, threatening to silence those at the GOP National Convention who would cast delegate votes for him instead of Romney...if your ticket is so weak you can only foster party unity by silencing part of your party, what does it say about the strength and quality of that ticket?
85 replies
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
31 Aug 12 UTC
League Season - Fall/Autumn 2012
Games starting now...

check your pms and emails (emails sent to the address you have registered on your webdip profile)
1 reply
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Putin33 (111 D)
28 Aug 12 UTC
Amnesty International hacked
And exposed for being imperialist stooges. LOLOLOL.
69 replies
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taos (281 D)
24 Aug 12 UTC
games left(need replacement)
i am tyred of ppl quiting just because they think they can ruin my game!
the idea is to post here games left ,so we can find a replacement as fast as possible and continue with a new real human being as enemy.
29 replies
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
19 Aug 12 UTC
The Ultimite Showdown
because the new thread got locked
14 replies
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
30 Aug 12 UTC
Blind Anon Invitational Games
PM me if you are interested.
3 replies
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oneirovatis (95 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
come to play!
here http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=98360
0 replies
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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
29 Aug 12 UTC
Pres. Obama broke reddit
Doing an AMA right now.
6 replies
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