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hotetatu (188 D)
10 Jun 11 UTC
need Player for 10min. game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=61119#gamePanel
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Invictus (240 D)
10 Jun 11 UTC
Gaddafi Finally a NATO Target
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/06/09/libya.gadhafi/index.html

If only they had done this months ago, thousands of people might not have been killed in this civil war and thousands of women would not have been raped by the Viagra carrying troops.
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JakeBob (100 D)
06 Jun 11 UTC
anyone want to join a game?
we have this game (gameID=60534) and the password is mustwork and we need two more players. anyone care to join? we're all pretty much newbs, so please no one over 400 D ;}
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d3stroy3r (622 D)
10 Jun 11 UTC
12 hour phases, 1 place left
Join my match, 12 hour phases in classic board one person needed. Only 50 dippoints bet, match starts in 20 minutes so hurry, first come first serve
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
10 Jun 11 UTC
DIPLOMACY CLOCK
So, I figured it would be super easy to find a clock for the dip tournament. But, I can't seem to find a good one. If anyone know of one, let me know.
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Plastic Hussar (1375 D(B))
09 Jun 11 UTC
League Pause request
Could someone remind me of how to contact the league admin? See inside for details.
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
07 Jun 11 UTC
The Rapture of the Rupture
Please join me in my game where only civility and courtesy are allowed. So even when you are stabbing someone, you are required to be polite and to explain your rationale.
Please do not join if you can't agree to the condition.
gameID=60915
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IBK_Tim (113 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
Please Join Game Let's Get Ready to RUMBLE!
We'd really like to start with 7. Room for 4 and 12 min till start time. 5 min rounds.
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airborne (154 D)
04 Jun 11 UTC
Britannia 1258 PBEM
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/forum.php?newsendtothread=9599
Let it drop if interested post on vdip
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mongoose998 (294 D)
07 Jun 11 UTC
that awkward moment..
I see a lot of people saying that you should always talk with everyone, even your enemies. My question is what exactly should you be talking to them about? IE: Rite off the bat you (Germany) ally with England against France. there is plenty to talk about with England and the rest of the world, but what about France?
(note: this scenario[While happening in many games all the time] is not currently occurring involving myself or anyone that i know])
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
08 Jun 11 UTC
When is a diplomatic power strong enough to take on the world
I know the answer is "it depends" but what is too ambitious, 8, 9, 10, 11 etc?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
09 Jun 11 UTC
Consider joining the bone marrow donation registry
www.marrow.org
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yourBALDneighbor (204 D)
07 Jun 11 UTC
replacement
I will be gone on vacation starting Thursday, 6/9 for 10 days. I won't have access to the Internet so I need a sub. I'm only in one game and it is 24 hours per phase. I will probably die very soon. PM me if you can sub. Thanks.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
06 Jun 11 UTC
Tentative Tournament Rules and Such
https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/boston-face-to-face
Please go here for *tentative* Tournament Rules and a Player Guide courtesy of Edi Birsan.
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Madcat991 (0 DX)
08 Jun 11 UTC
From be The chicken to Be the Emperor !!
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=60998
I like how this game was play , I am Austria ! The hardest Country to win with in Gun Bout !

Thanks
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StevenC. (1047 D(B))
07 Jun 11 UTC
'The Google Test'....
What does everyone think of Pawlenty's economic plan?

http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/07/news/economy/pawlenty_economic_plan/index.htm?hpt=hp_t1
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Draugnar (0 DX)
08 Jun 11 UTC
It was a good Monday a couple days ago...
Finally replaced the aging and dying Explorer with an 08 Jeep Liberty (moderately loaded) and win $225 at poker that evening. Life is good.
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Mr Smith (402 D)
08 Jun 11 UTC
Replacement for viable Italy position
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=59865#gamePanel
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Crazyter (1335 D(G))
08 Jun 11 UTC
FTF Fri Nite Dinner and Get-Together
Its probably easiest if we meet at the venue Fri nite. So we'll meet in the lobby of 100 Memorial Drive at 6 PM , then we'll decide where to go for dinner.
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Putin33 (111 D)
05 Jun 11 UTC
The stupidity of the private ownership of weapons
30,000+ deaths and 200,000 injuries per year (injuries costing at least $50,000 per trip to the emergency room, much of which the state has to eat due to victims being uninsured). Ban them.

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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
07 Jun 11 UTC
You're Stranded On The Island of Fours...
...and you'll be there a while.

Luckily, you can ahve with you four of whatever kind of thing you want--four pieces of music--operas, symphonies, and to be fair to modern music, albums wioth multiple songs--four things to read, four kinds of food that will infinitely replenish, four things to drink...so, what do you bring to The Island of Fours?
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Sicarius (673 D)
04 Jun 11 UTC
Obama fought to keep haitian wages low to keep levi jeans cheap
http://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-haiti-minimum-wage-the-nation-2011-6
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
04 Jun 11 UTC
Can anyone actually find the source for this? I'll I'm seeing is reference to a "taken down" leak. Sorry, but I don't believe something just because someone on the Internet says it's true.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
04 Jun 11 UTC
Uh-HUH...

Because our economy and every weay of life depends on Levi jeans...

Riiiiiight!
spyman (424 D(G))
05 Jun 11 UTC
What sort of pressure did the US government put on Haiti? What bargaining chips were exchanged. It is impossible to assess this without more information.
Sicarius (673 D)
05 Jun 11 UTC
http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/a_pulled_scoop_shows_us_booste.php
http://www.thenation.com/article/161057/wikileaks-haiti-let-them-live-3day
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124077512
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:HBI&fstype=ii
http://www2.journalnow.com/business/2011/mar/12/WSBIZ01-compensation-for-top-exec-at-hanesbrands-u-ar-855818/



It's not like its difficult to believe. The US in the last century has invaded haitit... three times? a few at least. Not to mention just about every other country in the americas, at one time or another to protect some corporation or another.
ever heard of united fruit?
Smedley butler?
it's not like this is anything new. It just shows that nothing at all has changed under the reign of obama.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
05 Jun 11 UTC
Really, Sic?

Not a single one of those links showed any evidence that Obama was in cahoots with Big Business against Haiti. Come on. Once again, all you're doing is hurting your case because of your shoddy, non-defended arguments.

Do you know what evidence is?
Sicarius (673 D)
05 Jun 11 UTC
*obama administration
spyman (424 D(G))
05 Jun 11 UTC
It is not difficult to believe but it is hard to know if the action was morally wrong.
Ultimately the wages are going to be determined by supply and demand with or without US government pressure. If wages are too high then their would be a risk that corporations would choose to make jeans elsewhere - which surely they are free to do. No?
How can we tell whether or not US pressure was in the best interest of Haiti? Let's say wages were increased and manufacturing pulled out and went elsewhere, would that be in Haiti's best interest. (I don't really, but I am playing Devils advocate here).
spyman (424 D(G))
05 Jun 11 UTC
Typo... I don't really *know, but I am playing Devil's advocate here.
Sicarius (673 D)
06 Jun 11 UTC
I dont think it is in haitians best interest to have american government helping american corporations to exploit them.
krellin (80 DX)
06 Jun 11 UTC
@spyman....haven't really looked at this stuff (links) but the statement "wages are going to be determined by supply and demand" is just a ludicrous statement. The particular form of government/oppression you live under may have a HELL of a lot to do with your wages. Just ask any good Communist...or Putin...if you think "supply and demand" or communal good should dictate your wages....
Invictus (240 D)
06 Jun 11 UTC
Sicarius, it kind of is in the Haitians best interests to have corporations "exploiting" them. Making 31 cents an hour is a hell of a lot better than making nothing.

Still, this is a really depressing story. I'm sure it more complicated than Sicarius' knee jerk LOOK-AT-HOW-OUTRAGED-I-AM-AT-THIS-INJUSTICE-CORPORATIONS-ARE-SO-EVIL-MaaaaaaN! response makes it out to be, but you have to have a heart of stone to not feel for the wretched country of Haiti. At the same time, however, Levi's factories and the like are the only thing that will fix that country in the long term. Tough situation.
Onar (131 D)
06 Jun 11 UTC
Since when are Levi's jeans cheap?
Sicarius (673 D)
06 Jun 11 UTC
"it kind of is in the Haitians best interests to have corporations exploiting them"

Perhaps it would be in haitians best interest for foreign imperialists to leave them the fuck alone so they can determine their own destiny.
Invictus (240 D)
06 Jun 11 UTC
And how do they go about doing that? What resources does Haiti have besides cheap labor?
Invictus (240 D)
06 Jun 11 UTC
Way to not include the quotations I had around "exploiting." Couldn't leave it in context, could ya Biff?
Sicarius (673 D)
07 Jun 11 UTC
What resources? well not much to speak of after repeated United states resource wars.

No, because haitians arnt being "exploited" they're being exploited.
Sicarius (673 D)
07 Jun 11 UTC
The oft-repeated tag of Haiti being "the poorest nation in the Western hemisphere" is true but this did not just happen. It is the result of a history of colonialism, slavery, imperialism, foreign military intervention, foreign-imposed dictatorships and unjust debt.

The Caribbean nation's indigenous people were all but wiped out by 1520 due to the disease and exploitation that came with the arrival of the Spaniards in 1492. After France and Spain divided the island of Hispaniola into Haiti and the Dominican Republic, French and Spanish settlers arrived.

The colonisers brought enslaved Africans with them to establish tobacco, sugar and coffee plantations.

The slave plantations began Haiti's environmental destruction, the destabilisation of its soils, helping make natural disasters, such as landslides, much more destructive.

After a successful slave revolt, Haiti became the world's first post-colonial black state.

In 1791, the heavily African-majority northern plains of Haiti were home to the beginning of the slave revolution. Led by former slave Toussaint L'Overture, the Haitians defeated the French slave owners.

Appealing to the ideology and principles of the French Revolution, the Haitians secured the abolition of slavery throughout French territories in 1794. It was in the name of the revolutionary French Republic that the Haitians defeated armies from Spain and Britain.

The British lost more troops against the former slaves in Haiti than in any other campaign during the Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars.

But by 1801 France, was under Napoleon Bonaparte's military dictatorship. In December, Bonaparte sent a force of 20,000 elite troops to invade Haiti and re-establish slavery.

Although Toussaint was captured by treachery, the Haitian ex-slaves, now led by Jean-Jacques Dessalines, defeated the invaders and declared independence in 1804.

The repercussions of this were immense. The abolition of the Atlantic slave trade three years later and the end of slavery in the Caribbean (except Cuba) within 30 years was a direct result. As the first independent state in Latin America, it served as a launching pad for the revolutionary struggles in the early 19th century that liberated much of South America from Spanish rule.

For the European colonial powers and the US (where slavery remained until the 1860s), an independent state of self-liberated slaves was an abomination. An international embargo was imposed.

This was lifted in 1825 in return for a Haitian commitment to compensate France for loss of their property — the Haitian slaves. This was the beginning of Haiti's crippling debt (see box).

In 1915, the US invaded and occupied Haiti, transferring the gold reserves of the Haitian National Bank to US-owned Citibank. Haiti's constitution was changed to allow for US ownership of land.

This fuelled the creation of large, lucrative plantations, in the process driving peasant farmers from their land into urban slum areas — where 90% unemployment remains.

This was a military-driven economic and political takeover, hugely profitable for US capitalists.

Haitians resisted the de facto US take over. But they were brutally repressed, with the death toll somewhere in the tens of thousands.

The US trained the hated and repressive Haitian National Army to control the population after US troops withdrew in 1934.

From the late 1950s, the US backed the psychotic dictator Francois "Papa Doc" Duvalier, and, after his death in 1971, his son, Jean-Francois "Baby Doc" Duvalier.

Papa Doc created the infamous terror squads known as the Tonton Macoutes. His son established 11-cent-per-hour US-owned sweatshops in the slum areas. During the Duvaliers' reign, it is estimated that more than 50,000 people were killed by the Tontons.

Baby Doc was overthrown by an uprising in 1986. Following a string of military regimes, anti-Duvalier movement leader and pro-poor priest, Jean Bertrand Aristide, was elected president in 1991.

Hugely popular among Haiti's poor, Aristide and his Lavalas party had a commitment to mass education, health care, and development of local agriculture. He lasted nine months before a US-orchestrated coup removed him.

Outraged Haitians rebelled, demanding his return. Thousands were killed in areas, such as Port-au-Prince's Cite Soleil where Lavalas had popular support.

In 1994, Aristide was restored as president with US assistance. During his exile, Aristide was given the choice of accepting US support, which was tied to accepting neoliberal IMF and World Bank "reforms", or have Haiti face ongoing rule by the murderous coup regime.

Despite the conditions imposed by the IMF and World Bank, ongoing social reform still took place under Lavalas, particularly after Aristide's landslide re-election in 2000.

These reforms included disbanding the hated Haitian army, building more schools than in the entire of Haiti's prior history, encouraging local farming, providing health care, and fostering grassroots organisations.

This led to a second US-backed coup against Aristide.

Kidnapped from his bed by the US military, on February 29, 2004, he was flown to the Central African Republic as a new regime was installed.

US marines and Haitian death squads unleashed a new reign of terror against the people. In June, they were replaced by a force of 7000 UN troops, mainly Brazilian, who have also been cited for human rights violations.

In 2005, a Doctors Without Borders (MSF) statement "called publicly on all armed groups to respect the safety of civilians and allow the wounded to obtain emergency care".

"Ironically, the following day, the UN Stabilisation Mission in Haiti launched a day-long military operation in the Cite Soleil slum, and the trauma centre received 27 gunshot victims — three-quarters of whom were women and children."

After the earthquake, Haiti certainly needs our solidarity, support and funding. But we also need to remember how and why it is so poor and stand in solidarity with Haitian movements calling for an end to its debt, for a real democracy based on self-determination and sovereignty free from foreign occupation, for and endogenous (internal) development rather than aid.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
07 Jun 11 UTC
Why aren't Levis made in America?
Sicarius (673 D)
07 Jun 11 UTC
@onar cheap for levi-strauss to produce/sell
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
08 Jun 11 UTC
It IS a traditionally American brand.

It is disappointing when American companies outsource. Camaros and Chargers are built in Canada, and Carhartt coats are now made in Mexico. If you use an American name, you should make it in America. The only problem with capitalism is that it leaves countries like America at a huge disadvantage.
Sicarius (673 D)
08 Jun 11 UTC
The only problem with capitalism?
the only one?
not that it requires constant growth on a finite planet?
or that its inherently exploitative?
just the one?


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spyman (424 D(G))
08 Jun 11 UTC
Brain Training
What do people think of "brain training". My company has signed us all up with a company called My Brain Solutions.
https://www.mybrainsolutions.com/Pages/productFAQ.aspx
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ButcherChin (370 D)
04 Jun 11 UTC
iPhone app
Has there ever been talk about making an iPhone app for webdiplomacy? I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but I'm just curious.
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London198 (0 DX)
08 Jun 11 UTC
Convoy Error
The game ID is 59376 (I think). I am France and on the last turn I attempted to convoy an army from Picardy to North Africa. The enlarged map shows that Picardy attempted this move, and that the English Channel and Mid Atlantic Ocean attempted to convoy Picardy to North Africa. The unit in North Africa at the time successfuly moved to Tunis, and neither fleet was disloged. continued on post...
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Thorin Munro (100 D)
08 Jun 11 UTC
World Diplomacy Championship (FTF) - Sydney 2011 - 1-3 October
World Diplomacy Championship (FTF)
Sat 1st - Mon 3rd October 2011
Coogee Bay Hotel, Sydney
Info & Register here: http://daanz.org.au/wdc2011/index.php
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
06 Jun 11 UTC
The stupidity of the private ownership of hair dryers
Why should we be allowed to own such dangerous devises? 10 children a year is a price too high to pay for dry hair. Use a towel!
56 replies
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swampy11 (0 DX)
07 Jun 11 UTC
Log into Game Help
I am at a business conference and have told everyone about on-line diplomacy, and have gotten 7 players. I set up an anonymous private game, but three players got stuck in a meeting and could not log-in in time and can not join. The game is still in the first spring move. Since I created it, is there any way or anything I can do to allow these players to join the game?
Thanks in advance
`swamp
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Medical Marijuana
Yes cannabis is a tired subject and for some the medical aspect may be. If not, come be bored with me and state an idea supported by facts. Opinions are not welcome here. Non-credible sources are not welcome here.

Pro or against I don't care. Please just support any claims.
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spyman (424 D(G))
05 Jun 11 UTC
Real Estate in the USA
My girlfriend had a friend, Denise, over the yesterday. Denise was very excited about a get rich quick scheme she had discovered: buying houses in the USA.
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