Is there any chance I know that guy ;)

I played one game in Serbo-Croato-Bosnio-Montenegran language, but it was on facebook. Who knows where those guys are now. I don't know anyone from exyu who plays here regularly, except me

There should be Yugoslavia and also Spain-Portugal , Countries here.

Cuz the game start in 1901 so is firts world war , and will be really diplomacy with those countries there too ( I know yugoslavia wasnt a country back them ) but will be cool , that way Austria - Turkey - Russia - Italy will have someone else to ally or fight with and France will have to watch his back or england....

I am surprised than only alamothe is ex-you chap (if I count myself that is two)....but more will come surely :D

I doubt that we would make 7 anytime soon :-)

Madcat991, have you seen the Crowded variant? You can play it at either olidip or goondip.

http://oli.rhoen.de/webdiplomacy/variants.php#Crowded
http://goondip.com/mapfaq.php#Crowded

Hmm...maybe it is silly question, but what are goondip and olidip?

Hkhm. There are more of us. :-)

So kamen you are too one of us, number of yogo´s are growing rapidly :) But even if it stays small you know that saying: Malo nas je al smo govna ;))))

Dejan, they are other websites that have implemented the webdiplomacy code.

goondip (http://goondip.com) is based on an older version and has some neat features some of which may someday be incorporated in the main webdiplomacy codebase. That's where the webdip variants really got going, but then the person running it got busy with life so newer updates from webdip haven't been and won't be merged in.

olidip (http:://oli.rhoen.de/webdiplomacy) is more up to date and probably has more variants now than goondip, but not the other neat features that goondip has.

Thanks for information Alderian, i was completely unaware of that sites.

That variant look very nice, but member community is pretty small I guess.

While there aren't many members, they're almost all active members here as well.
You can quite often recruit for a game here, then actually play it on Olidip.

I am from ex YU, from Zagreb. Pozdrav!

Ok, here's a question for former Yugoslavs:

Now that it's 30 years since his death - What do you guys think of Tito?

In my opinion he was a heroic WWII leader who went on to bring peace and stability to Yugoslavia on a level rarely been seen before or since. His championing of the non-aligned movement inthe Cold War made Yugoslavia a symbol of peace in the world for many years, and during the rule of Tito's communists, the economy performed well and living standards for ordinary Yugoslavs rose considerably. I think these are great achievements - but what do you guys think?

I think Tito is the greatest son that Balkan have ever produced. In his time Yugoslavia is symbol of peace and cooperation, and today others look at us like we are some warlike tribe not an civilized nation. So basically i totally agree with Jamiet99uk.

I also think it would be real nice if 7 people who understand serbo-croatian language could meet in game here.

"In my opinion he was a heroic WWII leader who went on to bring peace and stability to Yugoslavia on a level rarely been seen before or since. His championing of the non-aligned movement inthe Cold War made Yugoslavia a symbol of peace in the world for many years, and during the rule of Tito's communists, the economy performed well and living standards for ordinary Yugoslavs rose considerably. I think these are great achievements - but what do you guys think?"

Typical opinion of a Brit. England supported him, even though he was a communist. We ended up with a communist government (nothing good about it), and partly this is England's responsibility. Why did you support partizans instead of chetniks (who were fighting for the king)? I think it's because they continued to fight the Germans even though they were shooting 100 civilians for each German soldier killed in Yugoslavia (the closest ratio to this was in Norway, 10 Norwegians for one German soldier). Chetnicks refused to fight them after this.

The standard rose because west gave us money because we were opposing the Soviets. But we didn't have personal freedoms, not a single one from 1215 Magna Carta. West didn't care about this though

The best way to explain situation in ex YU to foreigner is that if he choose 10 random people, all 10 will have radically different opinion of any subject you can think of. If only 2 of them think similar that you are witnessing a miracle ;)

What I like the most about Yugoslavia is lack of nationalism. I live in once multicultural city, where all nations lived centuries side by side. When Yu start to break up, there was an abnormal explosion of nationalism that wiped minority group away. I think alamothe could be of more luck to live in region that had easier way (Serbia?).

Tito was a dictator who was smart enough to manage external relations well. Probably would have kicked ass on Diplomacy. As soon as he was gone all the problems accumulated during his reign surfaced and it was just a matter of time for the country to implode on all levels.

Btw, Dejan, you should never use the words 'no', 'nationalism' and 'Balkans' in the same sentence. Maybe you were too young to notice back then, but we've always had a majority of angry people in this part of the world.

I think Alamote wad Croat?

I think Ivo Ivanov got it right.
Tito was a strong political figure, strong dictator. Known and respected in all the world for not siding with either east or west.

But standards were high-ish because the country was living on foreign credits.
And after Tito's debts, high inflation and devaluation reduced most those debts greatly, at the expense of living standards.

My guess is that alamothe is Slovenian :-) and Ivo Ivanov is Macedonian minister of informatics :-D.

About Tito: he was a genius. Did you ever in history see that nation did (really did) love his tyrant?! Ok, lets be serious. There were good things and bad ones. It is a shame that we were not able to build on good ones...

Just out of curiousity, what is the derivation of the word 'slovenly'? Does it come from the same root as Slovenia?


'Middle English slovein, perhaps from Middle Flemish sloovin, a scold, gossip, from Middle Low German slôven, to dress carelessly; akin to Dutch sloof, untidy woman; see sleubh- in Indo-European roots'

@ Kamen

I'm Bulgarian - where did this Minister of Informatics come from? :)

As for the TIto Genius - most Russians adored Stalin, most Germans had an almost religious belief in Hitler and so on. All Dictators were loved by a large part of the population. Propaganda and control of information go a long way... obviously :)

Hey, I'm from Slovenia. I am Slovene and I eat slovene food.

Well I'm not 100% sure, but I think Ivo Ivanovski is Macedonian and really minister on Ministry for Information Society.

@Dingleberry
Where are you from and why are you nationalist :-D

@ Kompole
Would you describe yourself as "slovenly"?

Ia am for Croatian region of Slavonia, totaly different from republic of Slovenia or Slovakia.

Word Slav have in slavic languages meaning "Glory" :)

I'm from Serbia. I'm just frustrated how people in the west perceive some dictators as good when it fits them. Yugoslavia was a democracy just before WW2.

Okay, do we have 7 now? :-)

I am in alamothe :)

This is the root for Slovenia, Dingle
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slav