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MaximillianTheFirst (0 DX)
05 Apr 15 UTC
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Westeros Diplomacy
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/829950/game-thrones-diplomacy-variant

I can't be the only ASOIAF fan who wants this.
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
28 Mar 15 UTC
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R.I.P. MadMarx
(March 27, 2008 – March 27, 2015)

Eulogy / “End of webDiplomacy” within
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JamesYanik (548 D)
07 Apr 15 UTC
Social Classes
Are social classes good? And I don't this turning to political discussion, I just want to know whether a concentration of wealth in a select few is good for society as a whole. Have we simply never seen social classes in an unabused system?
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taipan (100 D)
09 Apr 15 UTC
Surrendering and deleting finished games from the list of games
I am now playing here for about a month and have not been able to find out : (1) how to surrender from a game and (2) how to delete finished games from the list of games I am playing. Can someone help me please ? It must be very easy I suppose ! ;-) LOL
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Mapu (362 D)
09 Apr 15 UTC
Google Translate Game
I'm getting a Google Translate game going on vdip -- please check it out and join. Could be fun.
1 reply
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thdfrance (187 D)
09 Apr 15 UTC
Masters Weekend
Hoffman's 5 under after the first round, Schwartzel made the first eagle, what else does the weekend have in store?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Apr 15 UTC
Tsarnaev Guilty
The verdict comes in quickly and justice is done. May he rot.

http://tinyurl.com/qf8s26p
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
08 Apr 15 UTC
Not surprising since he all but pled guilty. The interesting part will be how he's sentenced.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Apr 15 UTC
I don't typically support the death penalty but I wouldn't complain here.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
08 Apr 15 UTC
Why? So we can waste even more time and money on him? Sentence him to life and let him spend the next 60 years in jail.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Apr 15 UTC
Yeah, that's typically my argument against it too. That's why Illinois abolished it a few years back. The appeals take forever and cost hundreds of thousands, probably millions in this case, but I am more emotional about this. There would be something symbolic in executing the worst domestic terrorist in over a decade to me.
Octavious (2802 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
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I do support the death penalty (although not the American version which draws out the whole affair in a sickening parody of justice. There is no good reason why anyone should be on death row for more than a couple of months). But I struggle to understand people who dip in and out of supporting it.

He is guilty. There is zero doubt. Set a date in a fortnight and hang him. Keeping him alive in a box for 60 years benefits no one
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Apr 15 UTC
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Considering the number of death row inmates whose sentences have been commuted or have been exonerated due to new evidence (primarily when DNA evidence surfaced), I don't think the death penalty is a rational punishment. It is far too risky. A life sentence can be overturned at any time, but death is permanent. Costs aside, we don't know what we don't know, and just like when DNA evidence began to surface, it is not impossible that in 20 years or whatever, advancements in criminal anthropology will bring about another revolutionary thing like DNA. If these people are already dead, we can't overturn that, but if they're alive, they can walk free again for as much as that's worth.

Not saying that will happen here.
Mapu (362 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
It costs about $29K/year to keep him locked up. Perhaps more than that given the special protection they'll probably give him. So if he's in there 50 years, it's about 1.5 million. But maybe we'd get lucky and the guards will accidentally let him catch a shiv in a year or so.
Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz (42 D(S))
08 Apr 15 UTC
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Hang him in a fortnight? How about this?

Tsarnaev is insane
shoot him in the brain
throw his body off a train
or dump it down the drain

Don't need no lethal injection
He don't need legal protection,
or years in the D of correction
Give him a bullet injection
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
08 Apr 15 UTC
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There are a number of immediately obvious reasons why summary executions are bad. I don't think it's necessary to elaborate further.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
08 Apr 15 UTC
@bo

Symbolism is a poor excuse for executing someone.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
I have a feeling his time in prison won't be a picnic.
2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
08 Apr 15 UTC
He'd get protective custody because he's so high profile. Wouldn't survive a week in gen pop.

If you're wondering; yes, I've been to prison.
2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
08 Apr 15 UTC
And by prison, I mean six seasons of Oz.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
I support the death penalty in only a few cases: Wartime/time-of-conflict treason, crimes against humanity, prison escape/attempted escape while serving a LWOP sentence, and military crimes.

Because this bombing is time-of-conflict treason in my eyes (I actually couldn't dig up the full list of charges they nailed him for, but treason ought to be among them), I advocate the death penalty in this rare case. But Octavious has a good point about the terrible application of the death penalty in the US.

I say give him one good, solid, fair appeal, then execute him by some reliable, inexpensive, reasonably humane, and time-tested method (hanging, firing squad, whatever). No death penalty (except for the proposed but untested nitrogen asphyxiation method) is going to be completely painless, whether it's the poke of a needle or the jerk of a rope. We might as well make it quick. Even the sickest criminals deserve a quick end.
Octavious (2802 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
If there are really so many false convictions in the US it suggests you're doing reasonable doubt wrong.

The next big development will be in lie detection technology. It will simplify an awful lot of cases a great deal. Indeed, I suspect the main reason it hasn't been developed already is because the legal profession is terrified of it.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
08 Apr 15 UTC
"prison escape/attempted escape while serving a LWOP sentence"

0_o. Do you even listen to yourself?
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
I stand by that statement. LWOP means that society has chosen to permanently remove that person from society via the prison system. If someone is serving LWOP and they bust out or try to bust out, then the only logical course of action is to make sure that they can't bust out again.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
Obviously, "attempted escape" could be legally defined. It wouldn't be appropriate to execute someone for tunneling three feet into the wall, but it would be appropriate to execute someone for making it past the outer fence.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
08 Apr 15 UTC
poor taste and poor ethics all around except maybe abge.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
Poor ethics? I stand opposed to almost all cases of state-sponsored murder ("execution"/"capital punishment") during peacetime, except in the case of a LWOP convict escaping, because he/she presents an obvious danger to the rest of society and the prison system was unable to protect society from him/her with simple incarceration.

Wartime or military cases are a different story. If you provide aid/comfort to an enemy of the state during a war, then you get hung/shot. Period. If you're occupying enemy territory and you rape somebody, you get shot. Period.
I don't think he liked my rap.

Someone close to me was murdered once. Other people I know have had a gun put in their face and the trigger pulled, and thanks to God's grace, the gun jammed. Murder is heinous. Mass murder and terrorism are more heinous. Society's legitimate outrage against such acts demands the most exacting penalty possible.

If lethal injection is so expensive and controversial, let's just do it like the Chinese. Take him out back of the courtroom and shoot him in the head.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
Hell, if it were me, I'd prefer a Red Chinese execution to an American execution. That's the one thing that the Red Chinese actually do right.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
Right. Computerized justice and execution vans. That's the way to go.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
08 Apr 15 UTC
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Does anyone else ignore everything GF writes as soon as they read "Red Chinese"?
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
Pretty much. Maybe GF is just a big fan of Taiwan.
JamesYanik (548 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz

i respect the rap
I'm not arguing for execution vans. Give the guy an appeal. But once it's over, just get it done.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Apr 15 UTC
But the lawyers make less money if they can't oversee 25 years of appeals, and the lawyers need more money. /s
Octavious (2802 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
Alas poor Yanik, I knew him not at all well
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
08 Apr 15 UTC
Oh man what happened to James?

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yassem (2533 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
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"Getting Myself McFired"
So I just read this.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/getting-myself-mcfired
What an act of great bravery exposing the rotten core of capitalism, right?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
09 Apr 15 UTC
Right to be Forgotten vs Freedom of Speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD37vwUD8Us
Discuss.
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jbalcorn (429 D)
09 Apr 15 UTC
NSA Surveillance
How to get Americans to care that their government is engaging in illegal spying. www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M
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Lanium (100 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
JamesYanik: banned
Meta/No reply. Good riddance?
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TheMinisterOfWar (509 D)
09 Apr 15 UTC
The Dutch are the pinnacle of evolution
http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2015/04/did-natural-selection-make-dutch-tallest-people-planet

Science, so it's true.
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Ges (292 D)
03 Apr 15 UTC
Thoughts on Modern Diplomacy II?
Hello, I'm returning to WebDipWorld after an absence of several years. I am interested to know what the community thinks of this Modern Dip II variant. Is it enjoyable? Fairly balanced? (I don't expect perfection from a variant . . . )

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
01 Apr 15 UTC
The waitress breasts
As above, below.
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
06 Apr 15 UTC
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Game 3 of The Leagues is up
Links are all here https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/The-php-League/leagues-winter-2015

PW's are all teams Duke has beaten in March Madness. No spaces. Sorry I'm not as creative as the Star Wars themed one.
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2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
08 Apr 15 UTC
Lost Day
At 4:53 and 42 seconds today (if you use American date and a 24 hour clock) the time and date will officially be 4-8-15-16-23-42.
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EmmaGoldman (1001 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
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new game
Classic Game 25; needs 3 more players, its a p-p-s.c., 50 bet, and it will be fun!
7 replies
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chluke (12292 D(G))
05 Apr 15 UTC
Building in occupied center that is simultaneously disband
Can you build in a home territory occupied by another country's unit IF simultaneously during that build phase the occupying unit disbands?
9 replies
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Crazy Anglican (1075 D)
08 Apr 15 UTC
In-Game Mute button
If you mute everyone in a gunboat game. Will they ever know you did it?
4 replies
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Puddle (428 D)
07 Apr 15 UTC
Diplomacy (Game) Theory
Question about signaling in the comments.
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jbalcorn (429 D)
07 Apr 15 UTC
Question: How can you review old private messages in a game?
I've been gone for 5 years and I forgot....
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Kallen (1157 D)
05 Apr 15 UTC
WISCOONNSSSIIIIINN!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! APOAFINW:EGKVNDLBK>JANFILEQJKNV:ADLNK>EAVDFBHQV SDHOQBELHKV DS>KCLHBFEUHADJ <VJLHIBQELHDVK!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yassem (2533 D)
03 Apr 15 UTC
Hapy Great Friday!
Jews 1:0 Christians
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
06 Apr 15 UTC
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STP-SYR or Bust EOG
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mendax (321 D)
06 Apr 15 UTC
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Well-kept gardens die of Pacifism
http://lesswrong.com/lw/c1/wellkept_gardens_die_by_pacifism/

As i was reading this piece, it was webdip that immediately came to mind.
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President Eden (2750 D)
30 Mar 15 UTC
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R.I.P. President Eden
(12 May 2010 - 30 March 2015)

Eulogy / "End of webDiplomacy" within
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
06 Apr 15 UTC
Rolling Stone
Am I wrong here?
6 replies
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semck83 (229 D(B))
07 Apr 15 UTC
Should Mom-and-Pops That Forgo Gay Weddings Be Destroyed?
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/should-businesses-that-quietly-oppose-gay-marriage-be-destroyed/389489

Discuss.
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KingCyrus (511 D)
05 Apr 15 UTC
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The Religious State
Having seen many opinions on this forum, I am wondering about the acceptability of a religious state. Should a state be able to be primarily Muslim, Jewish, or Christian (etc.)? Is this acceptable in the modern world? If so, how far can this theocracy of sorts go? May they make laws based upon the respective religion? How far reaching should these laws be?

Please discuss, and remain amicable.
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trip (696 D(B))
27 Mar 15 UTC
Gunboat Means Never Having to Say You're Sorry
101pt, 36hr, WTA, Semii-anon. This game is for non-vigina slayers only. Sign up inside...
18 replies
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