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El_Bernardo (148

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Claims of metagaming

Do people really do this as a tactic? I'm curious because I was just sent a sternly (but politely) worded email regarding such a charge, and I know for a fact that it's baseless, so either someone is a bit precious about being ganged up on, or they're using it to gain some sort of advantage in a game.

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02 Jul 11 UTC

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One player needed

Straight up:

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30 Jun 11 UTC

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The Green Flu hits the USA

June 30, 2011 The Government of the USA announces that indeed the worldwide pandemic known as the Green Flu has hit the USA.

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01 Jul 11 UTC

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Equality violates the Fourteenth Amendment

http://www.detnews.com/article/20110701/SCHOOLS/107010416/1409/METRO/Court-strikes-down-Michigan-ban-on-race-in-college-admissions

Doubleplusungood.

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stoned spider (176

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02 Jul 11 UTC

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Need a mod for this game

Here is the link
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=62836#gamePanel

England, Italy, and I (Austria) voted to draw and unpause, however Germany is gone. I don't want to take the win away from Italy, considering he wins the next game, could a mod unpause the game? Germany did not have a chance to win anyway. If anyone did it was England.

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Sheogorath (170

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02 Jul 11 UTC

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Need a mod to draw this game...

gameID=62843

Everybody is still alive and I would really appreciate a draw (the name of the game pleases me). Anyways a lot of people left because for some reason WebDip went down.

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02 Jul 11 UTC

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I want a quick live game tonight! Let's have fun! (Please!)

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roland0469 (111

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01 Jul 11 UTC

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Disgusting Anti-Semitic language by Riphen during gameID=62826

01:52 PM (To: Global, from Germany) - Autumn, 1902: What the Jew is this guy saying.

It was offensive and horrifying for me to read this. I will not play with this user again and I may never use this site again.

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President Eden (2750

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02 Jul 11 UTC

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Hey, mods, I kinda made a big mistake...

I signed up for a live game as the last player (can't leave) thinking it was starting in 18 minutes. It's starting in 18 hours. I am 99% sure I won't be here for it. Is there any recourse?

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dD_ShockTrooper (1199

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01 Jul 11 UTC

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This is getting ridiculous...

gameID=43762 We started with 170 pot, we have 344 now. I don't know why people join for one phase and never come back, but it is getting a bit silly having a new India, Pacific Russia and Antarctica every second week.

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WardenDresden (239

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02 Jul 11 UTC

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LIVE Game starting now

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=62840
Right there, 2 spots left.

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02 Jul 11 UTC

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Happy Canada Day!

The Toronto parade was awesome, good fun. Hope everyone is enjoying the holiday and carries it into the weekend. Cheers!

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abgemacht (1076

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02 Jul 11 UTC

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LIVE GAME WITH TEAMSPEAK STARTING NOW

We need 1 player. They're just learning but TS is a lot of fun. State your interest here.

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orangefarm (100

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01 Jul 11 UTC

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The great pause

On June 5th, almost a month ago, a player in this game http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=56700 requested a pause for two days to study for an exam.

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President Eden (2750

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01 Jul 11 UTC

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Eastern Triple.

I'm not crazy. You're crazy for saying it can't work! See inside.

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01 Jul 11 UTC

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Happy Canada Day!

Dearest WebD people, wishing you a happy Canada Day regardless of your nationality (although I know there are a few of us here). It's a beautiful, sunny day here in Ottawa...and I invited Will and Kate over to my house party tonight, but still haven't heard back from them. Hope you all have a great day!

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abgemacht (1076

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14 Jun 11 UTC

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webDip F2F 2012

So, I was going to wait a month to talk about this, but, honestly, I'm just too excited. So, put your name and where in the *world* you're willing to travel, so we can pick our next destination. This is just to get a general impression of where the most activity is.

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President Eden (2750

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30 Jun 11 UTC

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I’ve been thinking quite a bit lately about something we can all relate to.

Something that is, unquestionably, inescapably, American.

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29 Jun 11 UTC

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Better not get sick...

Some american health care statistics. I was a little shocked to be honest, but I also havnt been paying attention.

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President Eden (2750

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01 Jul 11 UTC

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HEY GHOST GUESS WHAT

It's Jullllllyyyyyyyyy!

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01 Jul 11 UTC

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July Ghost Ratings

It's July first! Time to see if we've gone up the ratings or not.
Well I really want to see...
I'm just sayin'...

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Thucydides (864

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30 Jun 11 UTC

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Odd Future, Earl Sweatshirt, and Tyler, the Creator

Opinions on these?

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Tettleton's Chew (0

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22 Jun 11 UTC

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Can anyone defend socialism?

Can anyone defend the idea that "government" can produce a better society by diminishing individual freedom in exchange for increased socialist imposition of government power on the individual?

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Draugnar (0 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

@Yonni - The 'X' ship program didn't need government help. All the things you mention could have been done through private industry. Hell, harnessing electricity? No need for the government there. The microchip? A government progrma (NASA) may have provided the impetus to speed up the progress, but it would have happened. Sometimes the government provides the funds and the impetus, but the government is *not* an innovator.

@Chew - Had to read that twice to catch the Clinton/Dodd/Frank/Waters sarcasm. For a minute there I thought you were about to credit Clinton with bringing the FMs under some control and somehow reducing the damage. Glad I was wrong. Whew! +1 to Chew.

guak (3381 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

@Yonni: I think it is an absolute fallacy to state that the government is needed to achieve scientific progress. I am sure that if the government did not take such a large piece of the pie from taxes, private companies would invest more in developing technologies.

Tettleton's Chew (0 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Yonni, What specifically are you talking about? The space program was the government paying private contractors to build everything? Today NASA is ending space flight while private companies keep undertaking space flight. The government has the lead in nuclear engineering? I guess we can ignore the transistor and integrated circuit developed at Bell Labs. The personal computer is somehow a government invention now? Java computer language, Viagra, consumer electronics, etc are all thanks to the government? I can't wait to read the fantastic chain that will be posted that claims that all inventions whatsoever weave their way on a web back to some "government" project.

manganese (100 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

The private sector is bad at producing order, stability, basic research, infrastructure and an educated workforce.

Basically the stuff you need to make everything else work.

manganese (100 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Oh, I forgot: and legislation against raw milk.

Tettleton's Chew (0 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Who wants order and stability? Life is about being free to take risks and make huge leaps that destroy the old order and replace it with a new, vigorous framework.

Order and stability are dangerous ideas to organize any social group around. White supremacists relied on these two ideas in their arguments to maintain segregation.

manganese (100 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

White supremacists, indeed. Does that count as a Godwin?

Tettleton's Chew (0 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

"legislation against raw milk" is simply a pseudonym for government attacks on individual freedom. When you have to regulate what milk people drink all you no government has lost its mind.

Tettleton's Chew (0 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Manganese, are you denying that white supremacists in the South used arguments about maintaining Order and Stability as crucial pieces to justify segregation?
Now if you are embarrassed that your ill conceived post associated you with the arguments of white supremacists look in the mirror for the culprit.
Your ill conceived ideological statements are easily exposed.

Yonni (136 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Of course a lot can be undertaken by private enterprises. However, there are certain projects that certainly need government organization/funding. From a Canadian perspective, CANDUs wouldn't exist with national labs. CERN (at least in the capacity it has today) wouldn't exist on private funding alone. Research at universities is funded (in part) by government grants.

There are many areas of research without immediately realizable financial gains. Government funding often serves as the most efficient means of exploring these areas.

Yonni (136 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Also, saying shit like "can't wait to read the fantastic chain that will be posted that claims that all inventions whatsoever weave their way on a web back to some "government" project." really belittles your argument. You're clearly misinterpreting what I said on purpose.

manganese (100 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

I do not deny that racists used those kinds of arguments.

I do deny that it is relevant.

Tettleton's Chew (0 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Instead of order and stability the emphasis should be on the greatest individual freedom possible. Milton Friedman phrased it perfectly when he said that a society that demands equality before freedom will achieve neither, but a society that puts freedom above equality will achieve a great measure of both.
It's so shocking to see so many people intimidated by freedom and secure in an ever increasing sphere of government power.
Our founders saw government power as corrupt and malignant.

Tettleton's Chew (0 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Manganese I submit you cannot use arguments that can be co-opted in any way by racists. If you rely on personal freedom and the expression of individual self-determination you do not have these kinds of problems.

Putin33 (111 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Friedman was a support of Pinochet (freedom indeed) and Washington & Adams were in favor of the Alien & Sedition Acts. Jefferson himself sued people for seditious libel.

Oh well carry on with your sloganeering and cheap rhetoric.

Tettleton's Chew (0 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Putin, you post inaccurate historical fiction all the time. I guess when you support indefensible ideologies you have no choice.

Putin33 (111 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Oh and the greatest founder of them all, Hamilton, believed the President should be President for life and did more than anyone to expand the power of the national government after the disastrous years of the Articles of Confederation.

manganese (100 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Now you're just being weird.

Putin33 (111 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

"Putin, you post inaccurate historical fiction all the time. "

Really, what did I say that was inaccurate in that last post?

Tettleton's Chew (0 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Thank you for the compliment manganese. If you thought I wasn't weird it would mean something was really wrong with my ideas.

Tettleton's Chew (0 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

That Friedman was a "supporter" of Pinochet, but that is an old, discredited line of fantasy anyway. I've seen that you rely on old , discredited lines of reasoning.

Putin33 (111 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Dear Tettleton, are you in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Or do you believe private property owners have the right to discriminate?

If you oppose the Act, you can kindly shut your face about your supposed libertarian anti-racism. If you support the Act, apparently you love government power more than you let on.

Tettleton's Chew (0 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Stalin and Lenin are your heroes Putin, How many millions do you think they murdered between them? You rant about Hamilton, Jefferson, Washington, and Adams. What circus freak show do you perform in?

Tettleton's Chew (0 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Discriminate Putin? What do you mean by the value laden term? Be specific. I've learned that you can only throw out ambiguities and I've known you for such a short time?

I will be specific. Can a private property owner discriminate based on race, sex, gender, ethnicity, or religion when he puts his private property out for public consumption, absolutely not.
Can a private property owner discriminate based on credit rating, smoking habits, and pets absolutely.

You should try clarity Putin. People who use logic and reason would take you more seriously.

manganese (100 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Chew, you're ideas aren't coherent enough for me to find them weird. I was referring to your argumentation. It makes no sense.

Tettleton's Chew (0 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

How would chew know what you were referring to manganese. You have Putin's disease of being imprecise and ambiguous.

Lin Biao Jr. (359 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

And who decides the bases upon which the private property can or cannot discriminate?
You?

Putin33 (111 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Right, this exchange of love letters between the two of them never happened, and Pinochet never implemented Friedman's policies (to disastrous effect).

http://wwww.naomiklein.org/files/resources/pdfs/friedman-pinochet-letters.pdf

Tettleton's Chew (0 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

Yonni, I've already realized that a vast majority of the posts in this thread don't rely on credibility, but if you want to single me out feel free. I'm an advocate of individual freedom after all.

Putin33 (111 )
23 Jun 11 UTC

So you support the government restrictions on the use of private property? What a nanny statist!

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abgemacht (1076

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29 Jun 11 UTC

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Live Game with TeamSpeak

Don't know if anyone has tried this before, but I just played a live game with TeamSpeak and it was awesome; almost like playing F2F. If people want to spend a night and play, let me know.

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30 Jun 11 UTC

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points calculation

this user seems to have 60+30=100

http://webdiplomacy.net/profile.php?userID=36192

how does that work?

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Tettleton's Chew (0

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29 Jun 11 UTC

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Attacting Socialist Troll Thread

Invariably this thread will attract the socialist trolls.

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26 Jun 11 UTC

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Never, ever, ever ask me to pause a game again.....ever

As you probably know I don't like pausing, but will do so occassionally when people promise to be back by so and so date. But then somebody else announces that they won't unpause for another week, and there is nothing I can do - and of course the mods won't intervene. Which is all fine, but don't ever expect me to pause again - if you don't like it don't join a game I'm in. /endrant

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obiwanobiwan (248

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29 Jun 11 UTC

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A Question On Film

Took a Film and Lit class this semester--and it was a lot of fun, one of the msot enjoyable classes I've had while in collage, the material was only so-so, but the atmosphere and folks there were great--and it got me thinking: what "kind" of art would you classify film as? A different kind of theatre? A different, motion-based kind of canvas/physical art? Another kind of medium? It's own category? How should we evaluate film artistically, as it's now such a part of our modern culture?

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dexter morgan (225

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30 Jun 11 UTC

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Need players for games

Need 2 players each for two games where multis were thrown out *before* the first turn has been finalized. So - essentially these are New games... they are gameID=62620 "fogbound", an anonymous gunboat game, and gameID=62621 "pshaw!", a public messaging only game. Each are 5 to enter and have 2 day turns. Hope to see you there!

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29 Jun 11 UTC

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☻☺☻☺ EOG

Inside

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