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Mauldinado (392 D)
06 Jan 11 UTC
JDip or similar simulation program
I was wondering if anyone was having issues running JDip on Windows 7

Also, are there any other simulation programs out there to run moves through?
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HalberMensch (1783 D)
05 Jan 11 UTC
New to webdiplomacy (facebook phpdiplomacy-regular): Joined Games that seem to be gone?
Greetings,

i have been playing phpdipl on facebook for quite a while, which is lots of fun, and now would like to try the "real thing" here. So i created an account and joined three new, open games - one classic, one ancient med, and one world map ...
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hy2850 (100 D)
06 Jan 11 UTC
How do you leave the game?
I totally messed up on one game, and I don't feel like playing that one.
Well, I saw some people leaving aside getting wiped out of the map, and I want to know how. Pls answer
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mdrltc (1818 D(G))
05 Jan 11 UTC
First person to post is an idiot!
Whoops, didn't think this one through...............
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Kingdroid (219 D)
05 Jan 11 UTC
Parameter 'fromTerrID' set to invalid value '165'.
Uuum?

I simply chose the territory my unit was in...
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mikeconroy (0 DX)
06 Jan 11 UTC
Need a Sitter to Complete A Live Gunboat
It will probably take under an hour. PM me please!
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Dan Wang (1194 D)
05 Jan 11 UTC
#10 Gunboat 20 points PPSC anonymous 24 hour phases
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☺ (1304 D)
05 Jan 11 UTC
Why PPSC is terrible
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kislikd (840 D)
04 Jan 11 UTC
New game anyone?
Haven't seen a good, relaxed World map lately so here's one. Any takers?
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wfguiteau (373 D)
03 Jan 11 UTC
We gotta do something about players dropping
There is nothing more annoying than playing a 2 day deadline with 6 players who are on the ball, and then one guy who decides to drop the game. There has to be a bigger penalty for dropping out of games. I think it's really poor form to drop a game without good reason, so maybe there should be a way to just drop a game and take the penalty.
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Maniac (189 D(B))
03 Jan 11 UTC
No to self regulation of the forum
See inside
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mrlentz (0 DX)
05 Jan 11 UTC
Live game sitter?
Family emergency -- need to go in 20. message me if you have can do this at all.
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Commander Keen (127 D)
04 Jan 11 UTC
New players just can't play....
Please tel me how to break this vicious circle...
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Dan Wang (1194 D)
05 Jan 11 UTC
NEW Gunboat 20 points PPSC anonymous 24 hour phases
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☺ (1304 D)
05 Jan 11 UTC
Draw/Pause/Cancel in Gunboat
I'd like some gunboat enthusiasts' opinions on this...
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mathieuportelance (115 D)
05 Jan 11 UTC
Monte Cassino 7
I don't know if it's the web site or if it's my computer but it was impossible to me to play in the game that I create ? Every time I refresh there was no change and I come back at the first phase.

Can you help me please?
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
04 Jan 11 UTC
Ipod diplomacy
I noticed that while using my iPod to go on this site I cannot scroll in the chat boxes with each country...is this fixable?
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Ges (292 D)
04 Jan 11 UTC
Favorite Classic Territory?
Some territories are just more fun to own than others, be it for strategic value or "nyah nyah" effect on other players. I love Serbia, since it gives you an SC and can impact so many crucial Balkan provinces without being touched by the many navies swarming about the Med and Black Sea. Anyone else have sentimental favorites?
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Dan Wang (1194 D)
04 Jan 11 UTC
Gunboat 20 points PPSC anonymous 24 hour phases
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Babak (26982 D(B))
04 Jan 11 UTC
Diplomacy World #112 is out - lots of "Russia" articles
The Winter 2010 Issue of Diplomacy World, #112, is now available for download from http://www.diplomacyworld.net
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
03 Jan 11 UTC
There's been a lot of talk about self-moderated forums lately.
And that's fine. I'm at peace with idea. But since we are supposed to moderate ourselves, I'd like this forum to consider a proposal or two.
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Troodonte (3379 D)
04 Jan 11 UTC
Kizomba - game over
gameID=38703
Thanks everyone for playing this game that I dedicate to a friend.
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Triumvir (1193 D)
04 Jan 11 UTC
Question from a Noob
I see a lot of Full Press games and a lot of Gunboat, but do people every play with global messaging only?
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peter25 (0 DX)
04 Jan 11 UTC
new game 58 points join please
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=46021
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warsprite (152 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
The most important scifi story every told.
http://www.space.com/common/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=27719 What do you think is the most important scifi story every told? I'm assuming this means the impact on society, not personal favorate, best, or most realistic. I'd have to say Star Trek. The 1960s series not only spawned new series and several movies, inspired many scientist and enginers and innovators, and affected peoples veiws of the world.
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aodshark (149 D)
04 Jan 11 UTC
24 hour classic game needs three
ID#: 45869
Title: The Continental
Password: champagne
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Scallywag (0 DX)
04 Jan 11 UTC
LIVE GAME TONIGHT
JOIN NOW:

gameID=46034
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Draugnar (0 DX)
20 Dec 10 UTC
A tough decision, but I have to make it...
This is supposed to be a joyous and caring time of the year, so why do I keep feeling persecuted... Maybe because I am.

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"forum has gone into civil disorder"
Ursa (1617 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
Interesting to read this back after some time. I've had a downtime in games and do not check the forums often. My question would be: is there anything we can do? Yes, the forum culture will change, and yes: new and young players will be abundant. Perhaps this is the price to pay for the increase in enthousiasm for the game of Diplomacy. Before of 2008 I never even heard of this game, while you grow up with games like Risk and Monopoly. Diplomacy is an 'old man's game', with relative few but dedicated player - at least, I imagine it to be so. Right here and now, "we're witness of the birth of a new age", internet diplomacy via FB, WebDip and the despised playDip - making the game accessible to a great host of online gamers.

Sadly so, the highminded discussions will either be disturbed, belong to the past or must seek new platform in a more private scene (for instance, an email game). The forum is now a wild ground with an occasional troll. I myself remember discussions going too fast, lots of people with opinions. That said, a real discussion will continue, and on a very high level, in spite of the chit-chat in between. I've learned much and was always surprised at the high level of discussion here.

Lastly, adapting the forum might help. I don't think parts of the forum will die when that happens. The community is simply too big to let that happen.
Ursa (1617 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
* wittness to/witnessing

bummer...
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
Ursa, the high-minded conversations are the best part of the site, after the chance to play the game, of course--the high-minded conversations and the highly-intelligent players and posters who partake in them.

And as long as they endure, those players, the conversations WILL stay alive...

I don't know if I count as "high-minded" (some would question if I even have a mind) but I certainly won't stop the attempt to have conversations as long as there are those who still will have them--let the trolls and troglodytes be damned.
Ursa (1617 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
Yes, and I do admire that. But there some who will leave because of the filth. I just hope you're not the last prophet yelling in the desert (at some point).
largeham (149 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
I think the forum is fine as it is, though splitting it into diplomacy and a non-diplomacy sections would probably help. As for moderating the forums, I think the enough is being done, the community can take care of itself (as with TMW earlier this year).
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
I don't even think we need to split it...really, the biggest issue is simply a matter of trolling.

Get rid of the cancerous spots--ie, the trollers--and the body will be saved, no need to amputate or have anything more serious...and if that seems a bad analogy keep in mind it's not even 6am in my neck of the woods and I've somehow managed to have a trying day while not even leaving the house (obiwanobiwan likes a party well enough, just not the shithole of a borning place he lives in...honestly, if it wre a QUARTER as acive as even GLENDALE, CA, for God's sake...how is it a place can be so achingly So. Cal in every bit of it and yet not even have the decency to have the bright lights and rocking places to go along with the dusty climate and street crime?)
☺ (1304 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
Missed you too Thucy. ♥

At any rate, I think the fact that people are complaining is evidence that the forum is not fine... And how can we get rid of the trolls? By trolling them back? That's never worked, in the entire history of the internet.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
We could follow Groucho's advice:

"If any man should come between a husband and his bride,
We find out which one HE prefers by letting HER decide,
If she prefers the other man, the husband steps outside,
We stand him up against the wall and POP! goes the weasel!

Apply that to trollers and I think we've got our solution (or at least a very interesting image...) :p
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
*That's SHE in the second line of Groucho's song... :p
Indybroughton (3407 D(G))
01 Jan 11 UTC
It's been a fascinating six pages.... here's my take-aways, for what it is worth, from a person rarely involved in the little spats:

(1) what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Draug, think about that.
(2) censorship is a very very slippery slope.
(3) those who want "moderated forums" (independent of the wisdom: see #2) should consider how much in their time/money they care to donate to accomplish this
(4) who will guard the guardians? Think of the three people you would NOT want as moderators and then think about appointing moderators
(5) Butterhead has the right of it. If Trolls are ignored, they soon lose their motivation.
(6) It's liberating to have an on-line persona that is free to spew vitriol, ignore polite social discourse, use ad-hominum attacks rather than respond intelligently, and feel unrestrained in use of bigotry and racism.

Having said that, my 2011 resolution is to treat bigots and racists the same online as I would in person - to have as little to do with them as possible. To that end, Maple clearly qualifies in his slurs of Jews and Gays, and I personally can't justify associating with him until he decides that he need not share those feelings in public. So, let me join Butterhead: Happy 2011, Maple. This WebDipper has you on mental "Ig" until you declare that you can participate in a community that doesn't care what race, religion, or sexual orientation a player is. Criticize them for their intelligence...writing style....playing capability.... use whatever profanity you wish... but lose the rest.

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It's been a great 6 months of playing on WebDip, looking forward to 2011 and the forum discussions!
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
+1 Indybroughton
☺ (1304 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
+2 Indybroughton

Don't feed the trolls.
Mafialligator (239 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
I realize that I'm more guilty than most of this, but we do now have a 6 page thread entirely about mapleleaf. That's probably just made things worse. Ooops.
☺ (1304 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
Nah we don't. I've never used his name. Quite intentionally. My comments are about trolls in general. If I see a post he makes, I just skip over it.
Indybroughton (3407 D(G))
01 Jan 11 UTC
I agree. DFTT! Don't Feed The Trolls!
Indybroughton (3407 D(G))
01 Jan 11 UTC
DFTT! DFTT!
Ursa (1617 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
FTT!!1 (uh, oops)
spyman (424 D(G))
01 Jan 11 UTC
>(1) what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Draug, think about that.
Very true.

>(2) censorship is a very very slippery slope.
True. But the slope can slide in either direction.
Is it okay to accuse other players of cheating in the forum? If it is okay to harass other players as mapleleaf has been doing then it is okay to accuse others of cheating.
By the same token it is okay to comment on ongoing games. Doesn't matter whether or not some players think it is poor form because the forum is not moderated.

>(3) those who want "moderated forums" (independent of the wisdom: see #2) should consider how much in their time/money they care to donate to accomplish this
I don't want fully moderated forums. I just think that but some people here go to far too often. It is ugly.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
02 Jan 11 UTC
lol.

Fag-naur just quit.

Again.
Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Jan 11 UTC
The fuck I did, faggotleaf. Draugnar has left the building is like saying Elvis has left the building you father fucking asswipe.
trip (696 D(B))
02 Jan 11 UTC
i love the holidays
kislikd (840 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
HAHA +1 trip!
Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Jan 11 UTC
What's the matter faggotleaf? You can dish it but not take it? I figured as much, you homophobic, racist, incestuous paedophile. Go fuck your 15 year old son and give him your various and sundry STDs.
Jack_Klein (897 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
Well, its official. The only difference between Draugnar and Mapleleaf is one is Canadian.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
All this "Don't Feed the Trools" talk reminds me of something...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddIK3CIMzFs

*musical beat* Subsequent to the posts you have just witnessed,
Similar postings in threads across the Forum,
Postings which bore a striking resemblance
To the verbal back-and-forth you've seen occuring...
Ooohhhh uh-oh....
Subsequent to the posts you have just witnessed
Unsuspecting jerks from the UK to California
Made the acquaintance of a new breed of annoyance
And got pestered into feeding their bullllllll...
Thus the trolls did their terrible bit
Finding folks who'd respond to tnheir shit,
Thus the trolls proceeded to grow...and GROW...
And began what they came here to do,
Which was, essentially, to...
EAT REASON!
AND SMALL TALK!
AND PHILOSOPHY!
AND ALL POSTS!
AND THIS FORUM!
They may anger you with talk inane,
Levy insults and sound quite insane,
But however they anger you
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

;)
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
(Seriously, they SHOULD have used that ending in the film, that's how the--AWESOME!--musical ends...really, what's a better ending to something called "Little Shop of Horrors": Seymour kills Audrey II in the most silly manner and lives happily ever after after murdering two people, or loosing giant man-and-city-eating Venus Flytraps From Space and watching them eat CLEVELAND...AND DES MOINES...AND PEORIA...AND NEW YORK...AND THIS THEATRE!)

;)
Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Jan 11 UTC
@Jack - I'm just dishing it back to the cumstain until he runs home to mommy crying.
ava2790 (232 D(S))
02 Jan 11 UTC
Woohoo kids! Welcome to 8th grade!
kislikd (840 D)
03 Jan 11 UTC
Damn I thought this was 4th grade. Now either I've been moved up, or the state of our education system really is deteriorating...

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Triumvir (1193 D)
04 Jan 11 UTC
24 hour classic game
Details inside
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Dan Wang (1194 D)
03 Jan 11 UTC
Gunboat 30 points PPSC anonymous 24 hour phases
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