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gamer5432121 (100 D)
11 Jan 13 UTC
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Quitting a Game
Can you quit a game?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
10 Jan 13 UTC
Opening This Can of Worms Again...
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/high-school-shooting-taft-california-183012601.html

What now? A school shooting? One that could have easily been prevented? Wow. Amazin', ain't it? Whatcha gonna do, America?
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Mapu (362 D)
11 Jan 13 UTC
One more scoundrel needed
Are you slick of tongue and dastardly of intent? Do you possess thickness of skin and coldness of heart?
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
10 Jan 13 UTC
President's Executive Order
So the president is mulling an Exec order to address gun issues, what do you think it will look like and can it be done constitutionally?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Jan 13 UTC
The 'Roiders
BARRY BONDS, ROGER CLEMENS, *AND* SAMMY SOSA ALL SUCK. THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T DO PEDs, KIDS

Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Sammy Sosa ... their combined voting percentage would just barely squeak by to get them into the HoF. Good day for sports.
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Jamiet99uk (873 D)
07 Jan 13 UTC
Wealthy US entrepreneur calls for higher taxes for the rich.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCvf8E7V1g

Discuss.
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Jack_Klein (897 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
ad.

Plus, anybody who is a YEC isn't somebody I feel any need to treat with any respect or treat their opinions as if they deserve any weight. You've already proved that your thinking is deluded, therefore until you prove otherwise, you're only good for me to waste a few minutes with some mockery.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Jan 13 UTC
No, Draug, I'm being realistic that a woman born into an impoverished household that married the man that appealed to her and couldn't afford healthcare because she was poor, her husband stole everything she had, and her children were abandoned by their father who took complete disregard for her. If there's anyone to blame, it should be *him.* I don't know where in your mind you can blame her for what happened. I don't know where in your mind it is acceptable to deny someone medical treatment because they don't have insurance. I don't know why in your mind you are happier to let someone die than pay a tad bit out of your Mercedes fund in order to make sure that she lives.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Jan 13 UTC
"If you did you would know there are plenty of liberals on there, and that the news reporting is quite balanced."

@Sbyvl ... no news network is balanced. Compare these two screenshots and tell me which site they are from. It should be pretty obvious.

http://puu.sh/1LIwb
http://puu.sh/1LIBi
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
How is wanting to follow the Constitution, eliminate the deficit, and see America strong deluded?
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
bo sox: Theres nothing wrong with the screenshots. What's your point?
Jack_Klein (897 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
Explain then, my young fool, how the Constitution is currently being violated.

I'll be here all day.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
Article One Section Eight gives a list of what the government can do. Read it. Then read Amendment 10, which gives EVERYTHING ELSE back to the states. There's your answer.
Jack_Klein (897 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
No, I'm asking for specific things. X is violating the Constitution because of Y.

If you can't name me one specific instance, then I think I just proved my point about you and your delusions.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Jan 13 UTC
@Sbyvl... sure there is. It's called bias. That's one ultra-conservative base and one ultra-liberal base. You probably don't even have to look at the screenshots to figure out which two they are because media bias is common knowledge that you evidently don't quite have just yet...
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
" The Congress shall have power To lay
and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and
Excises, to pay the Debts and provide
for the common defence
[note 1] and general Welfare of the
United States; but all Duties, Imposts
and Excises shall be uniform
throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the
United States
;
To regulate Commerce with foreign
Nations, and among the several States,
and with the Indian Tribes
;
To establish a uniform Rule of
Naturalization , and uniform Laws on
the subject of Bankruptcies
throughout the United States;
To coin Money , regulate the Value
thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix
the Standard of Weights and
Measures ;
To provide for the Punishment of
counterfeiting the Securities and
current coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and post
Roads ;
To promote the Progress of Science
and useful Arts, by securing for limited
Times to Authors and Inventors the
exclusive Right to their respective
Writings and Discoveries
;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the
supreme Court ;
To define and punish Piracies and
Felonies committed on the high Seas ,
and Offenses against the Law of
Nations ;
To declare War , grant Letters of
Marque and Reprisal , and make Rules
concerning Captures on Land and
Water
;
To raise and support Armies, but no
Appropriation of Money to that Use
shall be for a longer Term than two
Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government
and Regulation of the land and naval
Forces
;
To provide for calling forth the Militia
to execute the Laws of the Union,
suppress Insurrections and repel
Invasions
;
To provide for organizing, arming, and
disciplining, the Militia, and for
governing such Part of them as may
be employed in the Service of the
United States, reserving to the States
respectively, the Appointment of the
Officers, and the Authority of training
the Militia according to the discipline
prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all
Cases whatsoever
, over such District (not exceeding ten
Miles square) as may, by Cession of
particular States, and the Acceptance
of Congress, become the Seat of the
Government of the United States, and
to exercise like Authority over all
Places purchased by the Consent of
the Legislature of the State in which
the Same shall be, for the Erection of
Forts, Magazines , Arsenals , dock-Yards ,
and other needful Buildings;—And
To make all Laws which shall be
necessary and proper for carrying into
Execution the foregoing Powers, and
all other Powers vested by this
Constitution in the Government of the
United States, or in any Department or
Officer thereof."

"The powerd not delegated to the U.S. by the Constitution, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people"
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Jan 13 UTC
Neither of the "everything goes back to the states" or "everything goes back to the national government" arguments have ever prevailed nor will they.
Jack_Klein (897 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
Again. I'm asking for a specific instance of the Constitution being violated, and how it is being violated.

If it as you say, and it is being violated repeatedly, it should be simple enough for you to name an instance. But I'm gathering that you're not exactly well versed in Constitutional law. But you may surprise me.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
Ok, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Though these can be argued as taxes, taxes don't give you direct benefits. How about the billions given to corporations? Do you see that in there?
Jack_Klein (897 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
Helvering v. Davis. 1937. Social Security was found to be constitutional. I imagine the same argument can be made for Medicare/Medicaid.

Next?
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
Billions of dollars in corporate subsidies.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
I'd like to point out, the Supreme Court made that descision after being stacked by Roosevelt in 1936-37.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Jan 13 UTC
The only words out of that sentence you need to care about are the following:

The Supreme Court made that decision.
Jack_Klein (897 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
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In what way? Tax breaks? Constitutional. Congress may lay taxes as it sees fit.

I might add that I am not in favor of corporate welfare. But I think the proper way to deal with it is to have it voted out of existence, and not bleat on about how its "unconstitutional". If it is, and you believe that, then you need to bring suit. I can't find a case that deals with it directly, but I'm only taking a few minutes between porn video views to search for cases.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
Supreme Court stacked by Roosevelt. Known fact. The descision has no weight
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Jan 13 UTC
You know, except for the fact that it was signed off by Supreme Court justices.
Jack_Klein (897 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
What, "stacked" because he's the President and can, with the consent of the Senate, appoint whoever he likes to the Court?

So basically, you can toss out any bit you don't like on any basis you like, and you get to determine which cases are "real" and which ones aren't.

Ok. I gave this a shot. You're hopeless. You're poorly educated, failing in rigor and logic, and have fixed conclusions that you'll alter or disregard facts to suit.

In other words, exactly what I'd expect out of somebody who believes the Earth is 6000 years old.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Jan 13 UTC
The Doctrine of Nullification doesn't work since Jackson. You can't just decide which laws you like anymore.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
I now believe it is 7200 years old. But you're right in a way. I don't know every law in existence, but to go into personal attacks shows the kind of person you are.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Jan 13 UTC
Believing the Earth is 7200 years old shows the kind of person you are....
Jack_Klein (897 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
Oh, poor baby. I'm saying your views on the world are wrong. We should pity you.

I said your ideas are wrong. But I'm fairly sure you're a pretty shitty human being too. Now thats IS a personal attack.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
See, you can't debate me on policy, you have to lower yourself to this.
hecks (164 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
Sbyvl36's argument that income taxes, including income-based directed taxes such as social security, violate the Constitution would be entirely valid, but for the passing of the 16th amendment, which empowers the federal government to collect an income tax, and expressly exempts said income tax from requirements that taxes be based on census results or levied evenly among the states.

His point that Roosevelt "stacked" the Supreme Court is appropriate. Roosevelt, facing uncooperative justices, hammered a measure through Congress to expand the size of the court. When the measure passed, he filled the new positions with justices friendly to his policies.

Nevertheless, if you want to find a law you can blame for the tax situation, look not to the court, but to the 16th amendment, as this was their basis for the finding of constitutionality of social security.
Jack_Klein (897 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
Sbyvl, we debated you on the points. Your response was to say "I don't think that Supreme Court case counts".

Basically, you showed that you're not about the law. Because that case IS law. You're about what you want, which has nothing to do with the law.

We debated you. You lost. Badly. But I'm sure you'll keep going, repeating demonstratively false bullshit, and then bleating about how mean people are.

Sbyvl36 (439 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
According to your logic, wouldn't Dred Scott also have been law?
Jack_Klein (897 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
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Actually, hecks, the court packing plan failed to pass. No new justices were added.

Plus, the bill WAS legal, but I would agree that it was a bad law. Roosevelt overreached in that situation. We are better off that it did fail.

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gamer5432121 (100 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
Post Live Games Here
Post your live game here please.
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Yonni (136 D(S))
07 Jan 13 UTC
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WebDip Awards
In TGM's absence, I've taken a quick look at the numbers and...
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
05 Jan 13 UTC
webDip Book Club
I just picked up a copy of Silver's The Signal and the Noise. Anyone interested in a webDip book club?
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demmahom (100 D)
08 Dec 12 UTC
3-word game
Ok, so we make a story but we can only use 3 words each and you cannot post directly after your post; only when somebody else has made a post after you post, then you can post again. Just make the story last a long time and be creative!

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Conservative Man (100 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
Is it irrational to think that I can't be an engineering or computer science major
because I struggled to get a B in calculus last semester and so far this semester I failed my first test and have an F?
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dubmdell (556 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
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When drunk, best and worst
Best: play SNES, for reals, not emulator.
Worst: send diplomacy messages.

You?
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
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Is there a Libertarian around?
Is there a libertarian here? I'd like to discuss violations of the Constitution.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
Krellin...Did You Appear On Piers Morgan Recently? xD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AtyKofFih8Y#!
I kid (though for as much of an ass as I am you DO sound a bit like that sometimes, Krellin) but WOW...that was hysterical. xD Pro-gun people...see, it's people like this that make gun control people eye you and your position as if you've said something so ludicrous as...as, well, "1776 will commence again!" xD When of two people, Piers Morgan is the less self-righteous one in the room...!
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Jan 13 UTC
Windows 8
I'm there making of upgrading my laptop to Win8 while the sale is still on. Does anyone have it yet? Thoughts?
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
06 Nov 12 UTC
WAT? * Word Association Thread * -
Add your input of this long long sentence!

1. ' Bounce '
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Hoffsauce (0 DX)
10 Jan 13 UTC
Parameter 'fromTerrID' set to invalid value '22'.
For some reason, this message pops up when a intend to convoy an army and it looks as if it can happen!
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djakarta97 (358 D)
04 Jan 13 UTC
Publishing Help
I recently finished an essay on the geopolitical threat posed by China to the United States and I wanted to get it published on the Internet (preferably on a newspaper and not a blog). Do you guys know any ways of getting this done?
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Yonni (136 D(S))
08 Jan 13 UTC
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Windows 7 Validation
I just formatted my computer with a pirated copy of Win7 which I've used before. However, this time I've been prompted that I'm using a counterfeit copy and need to validate it. Before I d/l a random crack - any suggestions?
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chluke (12292 D(G))
06 Jan 13 UTC
Lots of "Left Games"? Offer buy-in discount on left games?
I've noticed lots of games with where players have left. Would it make sense to offer discounted bets to join "left games" to make it more enticing and faster to fill "left games", such as a 25-50% discount? I'm new here, so maybe left games are not a concern to experienced players?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
09 Jan 13 UTC
Game Clock
Reinstalled my OS and now the Clocks in all my games are messed up. What do people usually do to fix this?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
09 Jan 13 UTC
Gift of Friendship
One day, when I was a freshman in high school, I saw a kid from my class was walking home from school. His name was Kyle.
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Stressedlines (1559 D)
09 Jan 13 UTC
VEGETARIAN diet
sooo.
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kol_panic (100 D)
07 Jan 13 UTC
Register for the Diplomacy World Cup
Thank you Kestas for Permission to Post... Registration for the 3rd DWC is officially open at http://aqmn.asciiking.com/ Please register now or contact [email protected] with questions. Thank you, Chris Babcock, TD.
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
08 Jan 13 UTC
Admins around?
Abgemacht, fortknox, TGM, whomever else. Or mods not named jmo.

Please check the mod e-mail. Urgent request has been sent needs to be dealt with in about 12 hours max. Thanks.
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achillies27 (100 D)
06 Jan 13 UTC
New 1 day phase PPSC!
I'm tired of all the stress from WTA... I'm flexible on bet size, as you could see, 1 day phase PPSC- semi anon/ non anon ( you guys can vote :)
Post here if interested, and put down your preferred bet size and non anon or (semi) anon.
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SYnapse (0 DX)
07 Jan 13 UTC
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In Defence of North Korea
With the recent successful missile test of the state of North Korea, many casual viewers of Korean affairs may wonder what motivates the relentless aggressive foreign policy of an impoverished and struggling third-world country. Why does the North continue to spend vast amounts on a nuclear and ICBM programme while large swathes of its populace are in starvation?
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ckroberts (3548 D)
08 Jan 13 UTC
Longer phase
My new schedule encourages me to try longer phase games; any suggestions?
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rapey (0 DX)
08 Jan 13 UTC
Quick game time - yes it's not in the right thread BUT YOU NEED TO SEE THIS!!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=107906
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sgs (127 D)
06 Jan 13 UTC
Haiku diplomacy for the new year
I played once on the FB version a game with public diplomacy where the only rule was that all communication had to be in haiku (5-7-5).
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