Are beers in the Americas worth drinking, then? I ask only because Coors Light made an appearence in a Bristol pub a few months back and achieved something I never believed I'd see... Free samples of beer being ignored! We don't really see much American stuff over here.

The microbrews are.

It's a pity that other countries only get our worst beers. America has a bonanza of high quality craft beers.

Just a few craft companies which are excellent, but there are many many others - Russian River; Alpine; Bells; Founders; Three Floyds; Southern Tier; Hill Farmstead; Stone; Ithaca; Great Lakes; Alesmith; Darkhorse; and Hair of the Dog.

America has a ton of amazing beers. I feel certain that if I tried to estimate the number I would be off by an order of magnitude and some craft beer snob would chortle at me in disdain. We are fortunate enough where I live to be so close to a few craft breweries that we actually get their stuff on tap at many local bars.

This has become even more ridiculous.

Comparing small microbreweries as example of American quality beer against commercial mass-produced German products = clearly unfair and imbalanced.

German beer has lots of variety. There are lots of unique flavours. Gose is one great example that I personally love.

How dare we compare beers to beers! We should add some arbitrary criteria to force Germany to win!

You know who else wanted Germany to win

do you

Lol

And Gose is produced where outside of one city in Germany?

THE FINAL SOLUTION

TO WATERY BIER

IS BECK'S

Putin, where is Hair of the Dog produced outside of Portland?

And, FYI...Hair of the Dog's brewery takes influence from...German beer! Check their website.

Funny....Mos Americans love (lousy) American beer....which is mass produced and sells a hell of a lot more than German beer in America.

The suggestion that, just because American Beer is not popular in Europe means that American beer is bad is assinine. I don't see a lot of German food, or English food, sold in America, and yet European fucktards eat it all the time...and wash it down with their heavy beers to wash away the flavor of their disgusting food.

I tend to agree....Coors, etc, are totally different from European beers. But not any good? Bullshit. They sure as hell sell enough of it to prove otherwise.

And once again, the elitist assholes of WebDip say THEY and they alone know best...and everyone else is stupid...

I love a good micro-brew....don't get me wrong...and I'll take a *true* black and tan any time you buy me one....but suggesting that American beers are worthless is just stupid. They are **DIFFERENT**...which does not automatically equate to **bad**....elitist pigs.

Pabst Blue Ribbon is an excellent American beer.

Becks? Puhlease...the Becks you get in America isn't German Becks....it is WATERED DOWN!!! lol **ALL** american versions of European beers are modifed....THAT is the more hillarious part of this.

travel to Europe, drink a beer in a pub, and you'll find that crap you bought at Krogers wasn't the real thing! lol THUS...this whole conversation is retarded...based upon mostly false pretenses.

Miller Genuine Draft....good enough to drink! And won't make you feel like you just ate a fucking loaf of bread!

@krellin: Who has actually suggested that American beers are worthless?

That doesn't matter, Sarg. You're missing krellin's point.

Asking a question about thing does not have to mean I missed a point elsewhere.

That said, I concede that Krellin may have had a point far deeper than I gathered from what he wrote.

UC for me!

The problem I actually have with craft beers is...too much alcohol! It's hard to find a good session beer in the US because the craft brewers are trying to outdo each other with the abv. Also, hops are really in, and, while I like a good hoppy beer (HopDevil is the second most recent six-pack I had), when EVERY beer tastes like a metric ton of hops was brewed into every bottle, it becomes too much.

But American definitely has a large number of high-quality beers, and an amazing diversity. If I want a dark beer, I go Duck-Rabbit. If I want hops, I go Victory. Some craft places specialize; some produce an assortment of excellent beers. It's really a great time and place to be alive if you enjoy good beer. The trends (high alcohol, heavy hops) sometimes annoy, but you can still search out those beers that are bucking the trends and just giving you the flavor you want. Plurality and choice are the hallmarks of American beers.

"I concede that Krellin may have had a point far deeper than I gathered from what he wrote."

Seriously? I didn't even bother reading what he wrote. Was just fucking with you :)

I know!

British sarcasm fails to shine through across the Atlantic yet again :)

I'm Jewish though, so it should have evened out. Damn it!

My two cents:

1. American version of German products and German version of American products taste VERY different. The German Becks tastes very different than the lighter tasting American version. In my opinion the German version is better. On the other hand, things like Coca Cola, candy (Snickers, M&m's, etc) taste a lot duller and less sweet in Germany than in the US. I like the American versions better.

2. America has some excellent beer, especially in craft breweries, it also has some very shitty ones.

3. The average American likes lighter beer than the average German. German beers tend to be fuller, heavier and have more flavor. That can be a good thing or a bad thing, according to what you prefer. I prefer flavor, so all things being equal I would take a German beer over an American one, but I've had many great American beers that are n par or surpass some of the German beers I've tasted.

4. Ultimately it is a matter of personal choice. As far as I've seen, it seems that Americans like blander tastes than other nations (as opposed to say Caribbean cuisine), but at the same time, like sweeter things than others (think German pastries... YUCK!). Knowing this it is no surprise that Coors Light, Bud Light and Miller Light sell so well.

It is terrible luck that you guys have this thread the one week Lando is on holiday. Otherwise, he'd school you all on the glory of Ontario microbrews.

It's terrible luck for Lando that he only holidays for one week!

Gose is a style. Cmon Sarg, the styles produced by Hair of the Dog are produced everywhere. Im puzzled that people claim Germans like darker, more flavorful beer when their market is dominated by pils and wheats.

LOL he had a week in the summer too, i think.

Sorry, thats me multi-ing/sitting on lando's account

Sorry about that. Trying to be funny on my Lando account again.