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Chumbles (959 D (S))
27 Jan 17 UTC
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Feeling Crumpled and Trumpled?
Then send out your gunboats abd rule the world: No in-game messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring!

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=189779
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Chaqa (3089 D (B))
26 Jan 17 UTC
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Trump using police to steal candy from babies
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! We can't let this stand.

#NoCandyForBabyTrump
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dannystores (0 D X)
28 Jan 17 UTC
Apple iPhone 6S Plus – 64GB Unlocked == $500
Apple iPhone 6s Plus 128GB Unlocked == $520
Apple iPhone 6S Plus – 64GB Unlocked == $500
Apple iPhone 6S Plus – 16GB Unlocked == $470
Contact: jjconrow1(@)gmail.com
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Hauta (1618 D (S))
27 Jan 17 UTC
Is Trump manipulating foreign currency markets?
Trump makes announcements that affect the Mexican Peso (usually negatively) and yet his financials are a mystery. Is it possible that he is personally trading on the markets that he can influence so much or am I being paranoid?
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JamesYanik (548 D)
27 Jan 17 UTC
DOOMSDAY IS HERE
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/science/doomsday-clock-countdown-2017.html?_r=0
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goldfinger0303 (2583 D)
26 Sep 16 UTC
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Announcing the 2016 WebDiplomacy World Cup!
Come one, come all! This storied tournament is a clash of nations, so gather your pride and some comrades in arms to show this site why YOUR Country/Region is better than the rest!
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WyattS14 (100 D)
27 Jan 17 UTC
Gun boat classic game 16 hour phases
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=190232
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brainbomb (474 D)
26 Jan 17 UTC
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THa Govarnment is full of Jipsees, Tramps and Theieves
Prasident Tramp plans to is ban abba, jipsees and all origami from entering America. #Freedom yo
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
26 Jan 17 UTC
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CIA and ongoing covil disturbance in the US...
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/25/seymour-hersh-blasts-media-for-uncritically-promoting-russian-hacking-story/

Tl;dr the CIA posted an opinion piece, the media incritically reported it as true.
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Yoyoyozo (187 D)
26 Jan 17 UTC
Yoyo live gunboat series.
Gunboat. 5min/phase. Every Sunday at 4pm CST. I'll post in this thread when a new game goes up, with in dept End of Game Analysis at the end, for open discussion. Post here or PM me to express interest.
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djnogueira (227 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
Last turn of a certain dead player can capture province?
Consider Autumn turn. A player has a single original supply center. His last unit is somewhere else.
His last supply center is captured. He will be dead when Fall begins. However, he is in a position where he can capture one of my many supply centers. Will I lose that supply center in the Fall if he moves to that providence?
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principians (871 D)
26 Jan 17 UTC
why is switzerland so rich?
First video in english of this channel, you might find it interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSLs5G4SPP4
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CAPT Brad (40 D X)
25 Jan 17 UTC
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Mary Tyler Moore, Who Incarnated the Modern Woman on TV, Dies at 80
She was fun, enlightening and interesting to watch
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Chaqa (3089 D (B))
25 Jan 17 UTC
Lusthog time
It's lusthog time. 2 games this go, same as usual:
- Gunboat
- No draws until stalemate
- No NMR
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The Ambassador (149 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
Dip Directions?
In episode 11 of the Diplomacy Games podcast Kaner and I discussed longevity aspects and risk management of sites like webDip and vDip to ensure they grow and reduce the chances of going down (either technically speaking or perceptions of IP infringement). We said we'd create a thread for this for others to contribute. What do you reckon?
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Jamiet99uk (141 D)
03 Jan 17 UTC
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MAFIA XXVI - GAME THREAD
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Flame (100 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
For Russian-speaking players
I still want to remind that russian-speaking players are also welcomed to Diplomail.Ru webdiplomacy server.
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WyattS14 (100 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
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So apparently you can't join more than 10 games...
WebDip thinks I have a life. Funny
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ssorenn (2550 D (G))
25 Jan 17 UTC
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My gunboats are over, time for some new ones
36h,dss, 25pt, gunboats
3 games--please join if you can play all three
Please ready if you can-----
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fourofswords (520 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
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Can we get 901 back?
Is it possible to get known world 901 variant back? with or without fixing bugs? It seems enough people like it.
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Condescension (10 D X)
20 Jan 17 UTC
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In less than 24 hours, a lunatic will be in control of the nuclear football.
We're fucked.
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The Ambassador (149 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
Latest podcast of Diplomacy Games
New podcast episode of DiplomacyGames.com is now live on the website, iTunes & Stitcher. Kaner and I trade barbs over our 1v1 performance, we go down the rabbit hole about the direction of the various Dip sites and have a bit of fun discussing the Africa variant over at VDip. Enjoy!
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ssorenn (2550 D (G))
23 Jan 17 UTC
Thomas Sowell
The worst president ever

https://youtu.be/0UpiNiaak18
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JamesYanik (548 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
@Lethologica

if someone has been looking for work but CAN'T find within a 12 month period, they're considered NOT a part of the labor force, and thus not unemployed.

Because this isn't polled, it's VERY hard to see just how much this is, but labor participation rates give us an estimate, and there are alternative polls being taken by independent groups. These are hard to trust, but BLS seems to be ignoring this flaw
Lethologica (203 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
"Specifically, to be counted as marginally attached to the labor force, they must indicate that they currently want a job, have looked for work in the last 12 months (or since they last worked if they worked within the last 12 months), and are available for work."

Yes. Where in there does it say anything about excluding people who haven't worked in 12 months? Nowhere. The criteria are: (a) Want a job; (b) Available to work; (c) Have looked for work in the last 12 months.

(NB: they also have to have *not* looked in the past 4 weeks or they'd be unemployed under the regular definition. But that's not a criteria for attachment to the labor force, it's a criteria for being *only* marginally attached.)

Now, those people *are* excluded from labor force participation, *as I said*, because labor force participation is based on U3 unemployment, and U3 excludes marginally attached workers. But U4 counts some of them and U5-U6 count all of them.

"if someone has been looking for work but CAN'T find within a 12 month period, they're considered NOT a part of the labor force, and thus not unemployed."

Wrong. Here is the definition of unemployment: "People are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work." Nowhere is length of joblessness implicated.

In fact, one of the examples given on the website is of "experienced workers looking for jobs after an absence from the labor force (for example, stay-at-home parents who return to the labor force after their children have entered school)." How the fuck are these people supposed to count if 1 year of joblessness is disqualifying? Did Obama extend pre-K to 8-month-old babies and no one noticed?

You haven't found a single source for your claim that 1 year of joblessness is disqualifying, and you won't, because it isn't.
JamesYanik (548 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
OHHHHH

this is my fault, I didn't directly post it. You don't understand what ACTIVELY searching for a job means, in comparison to PASSIVELY searching for one.

"People are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work." Nowhere is length of joblessness implicated."

ACTIVELY LOOKED

"Passive methods of job search do not have the potential to connect job seekers with potential employers and therefore do not qualify as active job search methods. Examples of passive methods include attending a job training program or course, or merely reading about job openings that are posted in newspapers or on the Internet."

If you haven't ACTIVELY searched for work in 12 months, but you still are PASSIVELY , you aren't counted in the labor force. BUT MANNNNYYYY PEOPLE DO THIS PASSIVELY!
JamesYanik (548 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
I'm sorry, that was on me for not defining my terms
Manwe Sulimo (630 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
"So there's this thing called the U6 unemployment rate that covers discouraged and underemployed workers...

http://www.macrotrends.net/1377/u6-unemployment-rate

If the U-3 decline were masking economic malaise caused by job-seekers becoming discouraged/underemployed workers, we'd expect U6 to be declining more slowly than U3. But the opposite is true.

Maybe the U-6 is missing people too. But where are they going?"

The answer, as Yanik has alluded to, is that they are simply being ignored after a period of 12 months goes by that they have stopped looking for work. After you stop looking for work for 4 weeks, you move from U3 to U6, and after you stop looking for 52 weeks you move from U6 to nothing. They simply cease to acknowledge you exist. The Recession began almost 10 years ago, there has been plenty of time for people to move through the entire cycle so that both U3 and U6 have declined without the people who were in them actually finding jobs. And there is no guarantee that the people who have left those measures by finding a job found one that gave them the same pay rate or better as the job they lost when the recession hit, the median income being less today than back then would suggest they haven't on average.

As far as the labor force participation rate declining because of the percentage of the population falling under the elderly category increasing and the amount of people going to school instead of straight into a job increasing, I fully agree this is the case.

I still believe that that does not fully explain the decline in the labor force participation rate though. From all sources I have seen, including your own, it would appear that the labor market is just not as robust as it was pre-recession, even after a decade has gone by.

All this is still to make the point that the economy has not been "good" at any point in the past 8 years for the majority of the American people as compared to what they were accustomed to. Has the economy been improving and better than it was in 2009? Yeah, it would've been hard for it to get much worse than that, you would have to make a monumental mistake like the Fed did to exacerbate the Great Depression when they decided to shrink the money supply to a third of its size in the early 1930s. The economy has improved off of its lows, with the help of $10 trillion of government spending that they didn't have in the first place, but it has not returned to its former level.
JamesYanik (548 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
@Manwe Sulimo

not only that, but for people who DO want work, but are engaging in methods deemed "passive" then they aren't counted. (after 12 months)

Americans, looking for work, NOT COUNTED!

But those who aren't looking for work are thrown out of the labor force at 12 months because fuck them
JamesYanik (548 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
@Lethologica

In fact when I was copying and pasting things, I accidentally kept this

"anyone who is actively looking for work past the 1 year mark aren't even considered, which affects people of 2 varieties, a skilled job that has been wiped out in the US, or a low skill job wiped out of a region. both of these people still want jobs, but have taken quite a bit of time searching: still technically unemployed"

and I said actively, which is 100% my fault
Manwe Sulimo (630 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
I honestly don't understand why they define the measurements they do in the way that they do. To me it doesn't make sense unless they have ulterior motives than to display the information in the most clear and transparent manner possible. Maybe they're playing political games trying to manipulate the numbers to look favorably or maybe creating them in such a manner actually does have some benefit unknown by myself, I don't know.
JamesYanik (548 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
@Manwe Sulimo

haha I can ensure you that unemployment measurements weren't originally designed to sway opinion from the public, they're primary use is to measure the labor force and participation in it.

The reason why people are excluded from an economic perspective is because at that point, they're not earning wages OR swaying market forces in terms of hiring, so keeping them in measurements would mess up our arithmetic

From a social perspective, we probably should add a U7 including them to show the state of the country though.
Lethologica (203 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
"this is my fault, I didn't directly post it. You don't understand what ACTIVELY searching for a job means, in comparison to PASSIVELY searching for one."

Sure I understand it. That's *why* I assumed you meant "*isn't* actively looking for work." YOU used the word 'actively'. For fuck's sake, Yanik.

If you have statistics on "MANNNNYYYY PEOPLE DO THIS PASSIVELY!", I'd be interested in them.

Marginally related, some useful charts here:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/where-people-leaving-the-labor-force-are-going/article/2579337

Manwe, largely agreed.
Lethologica (203 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
Whoops, Yanik, didn't see your most recent posts. My bad.
Lethologica (203 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
I *would* like to see an underemployment index of some kind in the US.
JamesYanik (548 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
@Letho

check Shadowstats, that's what they attempt to do

also, here are the per-state graphs for U1-U6 that are very handy! economagic is a great site
http://www.economagic.com/U1-6.htm


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TrPrado (456 D Mod)
24 Jan 17 UTC
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Most Important Thread of the Year
The Oscars
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WyattS14 (100 D)
14 Jan 17 UTC
Phantasmagoria?
I'm a little confused as to how you would use the word phantasmagorical/phantasmagoria/etc. I understand the words meaning, but would it be used as a negative connotation or positive connotation?
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Ezio (1746 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
Most Elegant Stab
I am trying to find some examples of pretty looking stabs. I know people take pride in them, so what do you think is the best stab you've ever done on the site?
11 replies
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0k0k0 (2447 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
Why can't I create a Known World Game?
The option does not appear in the list of variants.
4 replies
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sirKristof (2 D)
23 Jan 17 UTC
901?
I've been unable to find or create any new 901 variant games for a while now. It's still listed as active though! Anyone else have this issue?
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WyattS14 (100 D)
23 Jan 17 UTC
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US Election and Aftermath
I did this with my Asia Pacific thread. Let's see if a reasonable discussion on the possible outcome of this election could be. (Articles and counterpoints are more than welcome)
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captainmeme (846 D Mod)
23 Jan 17 UTC
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diplomacy.avi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVvAl7G4xLI
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