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WyattS14 (100 D (B))
25 Jan 17 UTC
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So apparently you can't join more than 10 games...
WebDip thinks I have a life. Funny
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ssorenn (0 D X)
25 Jan 17 UTC
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My gunboats are over, time for some new ones
36h,dss, 25pt, gunboats
3 games--please join if you can play all three
Please ready if you can-----
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fourofswords (544 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
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Can we get 901 back?
Is it possible to get known world 901 variant back? with or without fixing bugs? It seems enough people like it.
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Condescension (10 D X)
20 Jan 17 UTC
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In less than 24 hours, a lunatic will be in control of the nuclear football.
We're fucked.
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The Ambassador (159 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
Latest podcast of Diplomacy Games
New podcast episode of DiplomacyGames.com is now live on the website, iTunes & Stitcher. Kaner and I trade barbs over our 1v1 performance, we go down the rabbit hole about the direction of the various Dip sites and have a bit of fun discussing the Africa variant over at VDip. Enjoy!
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ssorenn (0 D X)
23 Jan 17 UTC
Thomas Sowell
The worst president ever

https://youtu.be/0UpiNiaak18
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TrPrado (456 D Mod)
24 Jan 17 UTC
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Most Important Thread of the Year
The Oscars
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WyattS14 (100 D (B))
14 Jan 17 UTC
Phantasmagoria?
I'm a little confused as to how you would use the word phantasmagorical/phantasmagoria/etc. I understand the words meaning, but would it be used as a negative connotation or positive connotation?
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Ezio (1746 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
Most Elegant Stab
I am trying to find some examples of pretty looking stabs. I know people take pride in them, so what do you think is the best stab you've ever done on the site?
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0k0k0 (4886 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
Why can't I create a Known World Game?
The option does not appear in the list of variants.
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sirKristof (15 D X)
23 Jan 17 UTC
901?
I've been unable to find or create any new 901 variant games for a while now. It's still listed as active though! Anyone else have this issue?
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WyattS14 (100 D (B))
23 Jan 17 UTC
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US Election and Aftermath
I did this with my Asia Pacific thread. Let's see if a reasonable discussion on the possible outcome of this election could be. (Articles and counterpoints are more than welcome)
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captainmeme (1584 D Mod)
23 Jan 17 UTC
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diplomacy.avi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVvAl7G4xLI
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brainbomb (325 D)
15 Jan 17 UTC
Why God probably isnt real
I decided to open my imagination
I prayed about something recently. I asked God to give me signs. God gave me all the wrong signs. Therefore I submit this as Exhibit A, God is eother an asshole or doesnt exist. Discuss
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JamesYanik (548 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
@pastralan

that's not entirely accurate. We haven't had a scientific method for analyzing our universe until the last few centuries. Religions texts are riddled with inaccuracies that today, are easy to identify. I've still yet to see any literal reading of a religious text that holds up.

Secondly, I PERSONALLY don't have to spend 80 years of my life investigating every single aspect, as there are many critiques you can find today given the vastness of the internet. It's the age of information, and there are more collections of arguments and counterarguments or religious doctrines at our fingertips than ever before.

I've watched plenty of debates and read my fair share as well. Perhaps there are defenses of religions that I haven't heard yet, but simply from the MANY inaccuracies already that have been identified, I've still been yet to see a religion that holds it's worth in salt.

I don't have to prove a null by saying there's no god with religion. I'm not entirely against the idea of some sort of deity, though the likelihood of it i would call into question (unitarians would probably touch closest on this). However, Religions make specific claims about our nature, the world, and history, that are scientifically inaccurate. Because of this, I have great skepticism in the accuracy of religions.

What they teach in terms of moral values i can appreciate.
JamesYanik (548 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
@pastoralan

I'm sorry for continuously messing up your name
Devonian (870 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
@pastoralan, You are still changing my words. What I said was open ended.

This is what I did say: "...people will deny the existence of God to avoid being accountable to him." The phrase "people will" can apply to 2 or more people. What is implied, is that all others would have another reason for denying the existence of God.
Devonian (870 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
@orathic, "We are the descendants of a long line of human who have survived. We are the ones who place agency behind every part of nature. Be it thunder (lots of cultures have a thunder god) or flooding.."

What do you mean by "agency"? The definition of the word agency that seems relevant is "a person or thing through which power is exerted or an end is achieved"

If this is what you are arguing, then you are arguing my point. I simply am using the word "God" instead of "agency".
ishirkmywork (1391 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
at least i know the evangelical god doesn't exist or isn't very powerful at all since 85% of american evangelical's rejected the morals they claimed they had and voted for a vengeful orange ignoramus. we can cross that god of the list gentlemen. carry on.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
20 Jan 17 UTC
i don't believe in that tripe that evangelical protestantism peddles either. my Christianity is older and connected to the original source
ishirkmywork (1391 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
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Oh shit brad! The original source?! Do tell. So many people have been looking for that.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
20 Jan 17 UTC
the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ and given to Peter. which other 'denomination' other than Orthodoxy can make that claim. and Orthodoxy although recognizing Peter as bishop nevertheless rejects his position as supreme pontiff.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
20 Jan 17 UTC
all other christian denominations were founded by people other than Jesus Christ
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
20 Jan 17 UTC
by the way the term 'Catholic' means universal or otherwise open to all
orathaic (1009 D (B))
20 Jan 17 UTC
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@Devonian.

Kinda, yes. But also if you understood what i meant then i'm not sure how you could agree with me.

Agency goes beyond snakes who might kill us vs tree branches who mean is no harm. (ie danger)

It goes to mean himan-like intelligent individuals who have an active agenda.

We see them everywhere, even when they aren't there. (Similarily we see faces on Mars, or in other random patterns of natures and art, because we're really interested in faces, seeing emotion on another human's face is vitial to our survival as a social species...)

So after many iterations we come up with a god in our image. The idea that a merciful god exists to protect and watch over us, to respond to our prayers, and maybe even grant is ever-lasting life.

So maybe we mean the same thing. But from the way i phrased things, it become clear that i do not see this as evidence for god. But rather the contrary.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
20 Jan 17 UTC
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And Cpt Brad, i will let the more religiously motivated shred your... Ideas, yes that will do, about Catholicism.

And only say, i was raised a Catholic (in good ol' Catholic Ireland) but i haven't let that hold me back!

But just one point, most of the billion Muslims believe that both Mohamed and Jesus were prophets (in touch with the one true source ¿God?) the difference is Muslim believe Mohammed was the final prophet. Version 3.0 to your Catholicism's 2.0.

(Protestantism may be at least version 2.1, while Mormon's took up this wacky 2.2b release which is still fairly buggy...)
JamesYanik (548 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
@orathaic

i was going to join mormonism, but i hear they're releasing a christianity 2.3 next year, and probably a 2.3A with it. maybe the prices will drop who knows
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
20 Jan 17 UTC
“There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.” ― Fulton J. Sheen
Most people even Catholics do not know or understand what the 'CC' is or stands for. most Christians or even followers of other religions neither learn or attempt to learn the truths of their religion but only believe what they were taught as children, so their understanding is at the child level. For example anyone who claims to be a Methodist will unlikely be able to explain the three methods of Methodism. Most Muslims will not be able to explain the difference between Shia, Sunni or Sufi. Nor do people want to learn because that will challenge their deeply held prejudices about religion.
ishirkmywork (1391 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
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i got no problems with religion, yours either capn brad, as long as you don't take it too seriously. Once people start viewing religion as more important than life or nature or other conscious creatures then we got problems. Just do my be so insistent.
Jamiet99uk (437 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
@CAPT Brad.

Describe God to me.

I cannot conceive of this "God" thing that you are imagining.

What is it?
Devonian (870 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
@orthaic,

We seem to be using the same argument and coming to different conclusions. I am saying the "agent" is God. If I am understand you correctly, you are saying our perception of an "agent" is a byproduct of a survival mechanism.

But even your conclusion is consistent with what I said: "...many will deny that sense and claim God doesn't exist."

However, basically you are pre-supposing the non-existence of God (or an "agent"), whereas I am pre-supposing the existence of God as an "agent". I don't believe that there is an argument to prove or disprove either of these pre-suppositions though.
Lethologica (203 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
The upshot is that since the existence of such a sense is at least equally well explained with or without God, it's not an argument for the existence of God.
Devonian (870 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
Or conversely, it's not an argument for the "denial of the" existence of God.
Lethologica (203 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
The concept of God, in itself, is compatible with anything that can possibly be observed or argued. There is no meaning in arguing either for or against its existence so long as no more specific formulation is put forth.
JamesYanik (548 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
@Lethologica

"The concept of God, in itself, is compatible with anything that can possibly be observed or argued."

well... a being which is unlike any current observed form of life that influences us from another world, kind of sounds like a monster from a 4th dimension. however
1. there is no proof
2. why the hell would we worship it?

"There is no meaning in arguing either for or against its existence so long as no more specific formulation is put forth."

That's some straight letho-logic right there boy

so. is this thread dead?
orathaic (1009 D (B))
23 Jan 17 UTC
@Devonian "However, basically you are pre-supposing the non-existence of God (or an "agent"), whereas I am pre-supposing the existence of God as an "agent". I don't believe that there is an argument to prove or disprove either of these pre-suppositions though."

I think we agree at least on that last part, our arguments do not prove anything about the pre-suppositions.

However, i wasn't aware that i was making a pre-supposition about the existance of god. I was presupposing that we evolved - as described by modern science.

And i don't think this is contrary to a belief in any/all gods. The Catholic Church (for example - and i only choose this example because it was the Church i was raising in, and it happens to suit my argument) endores Darwin's evolution as the means by which God created man (and also the big bang theory). So, at least according to the CC authorities, these two things are not incompetition.

Further my claim goes on to explain why people think there is agency in in-animate things. You may conclude that any personal god is the result of a mistaken personification of sorts, the application of agency where in reality there is none. And thus that any/all Gods are figments of human imagination.

Though as a pantheist i reject this conclusion, i happen to believe in a God which i don't ascribe any particular agency to. One which is so far eyond human comprehension that to ascribe any human qualities to it would be pure hubris. A God concept which is largely my own independent invention, though i was heavily inspired by some other ideas, and have recently discovered that Spinoza wrote about a very similar God as Nature idea at least 400 uears ago. (For some reason it hasn't become particularily mainstream...)
orathaic (1009 D (B))
23 Jan 17 UTC
*years, even.


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Jamiet99uk (437 D)
23 Jan 17 UTC
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"Alternative Facts"
Or, you know, what we used to just called "lies".
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Ezio (1746 D)
16 Jan 17 UTC
aaron rodgers is a god
I told everyone
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CommanderByron (858 D (S))
23 Jan 17 UTC
Let's Keep It Real
Conservatives- Resistant to change, confident in the status quo.
Liberals- Supportive of change, dissatisfied with the status quo.
If we stopped attacking each other for a few minutes these traits could be complimentary.
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Condescension (10 D X)
23 Jan 17 UTC
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Conservatives are socially awkward
I think I just figured it out. Conservatives are just fucking socially awkward. That's the only reason you could possibly not figure out that privilege is a thing.
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evanej (100 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
How are you welcoming in Trump?
It is time!
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JamesYanik (548 D)
23 Jan 17 UTC
NEW WORLD RECORD
after only 4 hours, #alternativefacts is already being overused, just beating out the previous record held by #fakenews.

we fully expect to endure this for the next few days, until it to dies, or develops into something else (such as #bullshitnews)
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brainbomb (325 D)
21 Jan 17 UTC
I dont believe in the alphabet or languages
I think God did not actually create the alphabet. People did. People also made the tower of babel. Im agaist taxes being used to teach people the alphabet. God didnt create it, so its not important
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WyattS14 (100 D (B))
20 Jan 17 UTC
Does math Exist, or is it really JUST an idea?
I found
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CAPT Brad (40 D X)
19 Dec 16 UTC
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Why I Love The Live Gunboat Games
I have the PC game of Diplomacy and played it to victory pretty much everytime; the few losses from the beginning as i was learning.
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Chumbles (974 D (S))
22 Jan 17 UTC
Only one needed: gunboat, ancmed
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=189485
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Valis2501 (2232 D (G))
19 Jan 17 UTC
F2F Tournament in MA, USA
As above, below
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Peregrine Falcon (2201 D (B))
21 Jan 17 UTC
Friends Game
I'm looking for three more people to join me and three friends for a game. We'll keep the meta gaming to a minimum. Post here or message me if you're interested.
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King Of Avalon (10 D X)
20 Jan 17 UTC
Hello i am new
How do i play i need help
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oliveskin (100 D X)
20 Jan 17 UTC
Canceling CDs in live games
Thoughts to follow (my phone isn't letting me both type everything and post as well lol)
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Halls of Mandos (789 D)
19 Jan 17 UTC
Another clarifying thread...
A unit can cut support if it itself is only tapped as well, but it does NOT cut support if it is dislodged by two completely different units, right?
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indigo93 (100 D)
19 Jan 17 UTC
Issue with Denmark Capture
Game id 189248

I am Germany and had has a unit in Denmark at multiple points this game, yet the map color has not changed and I gave not
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