I believe that pleasure can be gained from such things, but consent is lacking in 50Shades, and without consent it becomes rape and sexual assault, and probably assault.

But geneva? War crimes? This is a human rights issue.

The only relevant rights are the right to life and liberty, and right for consenting adults to marry.

There is no right to explore your sexuality, or engage in pre-marital sex, or any bdsm activities. But likewise nothing to prevent such exploration (apart from national laws)

I would like to petition we hold a war crimes tribunal against the author Stephanie Meyer. I think there is some valid atrocities depicted within.

For instance, why is Edward Cullen torturing an adolescant high school girl? Kidnapping her, retreating to his vampiric sex dungeoun.

Um, the right to explore your own sexuality on your own with out her consenting people is pretty clearly within the Liberty interests. It's not tenable to argue that your have a right to liberty while insisting you don't have liberty to pursue happiness.

I hope you are joking. But I will write this as if you are not.
I have not, nor will, read the books or watch the movies. That being said... not at all war crimes or gitmo level. Did Battle Royal/Hunger Games lead to adults murdering kids in the streets (or on a private island)? Did the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo trilogy lead to men being killed for abusing women? Did Iron Man lead to a rise in the playboy arms dealers with family issues? Do numerous people really play GTA and then commit crimes? Do people play Watch Dogs and turn into master hackers? No, no (I think), no (though it would be cool), no, and no. See my point?

BUT... I am calling troll on this. "Most hated player on Webdip" he says in his profile. Nice troll sir.

It's funny that bb thinks he's memorable enough to be the "most hated person on webdip"

He's memorable enough, but *hated* isn't the term I'd use. *Adorable* is much more like it.

I also believe the Show gilmore girls encourages human ritual sacrifice.

Some of it comes down to what "on webdip" means. I mean Draugnar and Krellin are both banned aren't they? That thins the competition a little.

And leon left.

I am concerned about the graphic sex scenes in the movie Two Towers. When merry and pippin get stuck inside treebeard.

I liked 1984 right up to the obvious fapbait in Room 101, which should have been censored so that our children wouldn't grow up to be vore fetishists.

* right for consenting adults to marry.
there is no right to marry. if there were, states would not issue marriage licenses.

letho don't lie. you fap as often as you can, a regular Pee Wee Herman or George Michael.

Lol this guy has nothing on mapleleaf and sbyvl

ILN, do you play Diplomacy any more or just come here for the forum articles?

Both

You haven't played here for a year and a half.
Finished: 2 Jun 2015

"There is no right to bear arms. If there were, states would not issue firearms licenses."

You go after my phallus, I'll go after yours. Any concern you may have about the implications of this are purely your problem.

There is a right to bear arms. the licenses are part of the 'well regulated militia'

so letho, you are challenging me to a 'tug-of-war'? '[;-)

this is my rifle, this is my gun; one is for fighting, the other for fun.

Then we have established that a right to something and a license for that thing can coexist. This is also the case for marriage, which is both a basic extension of individual autonomy rights, and a fundamental element of the social order for which legal recognition is very convenient.

I can see where you might be right in an ethical case but not a moral one

That has absolutely nothing to do with it.

@CAPT Brad

morals are an individual's code, ethics are an external code (thanks google!)

so... wouldn't there be a case for each?

Brad defined morality as following God's law in another thread. Which has nothing to do with whether or not a right to marry exists, or whether the existence of a right is contingent on the lack of a government license, unless he collapses the distinction between human laws and God's with some natural rights argument, in which case his position is untenable. Whether his usage is accurate is a separate matter.

I think at the moment, bere at webdiplomacy I may be more disliked, unfairly imho,than Dipbro Brainbomb. As to this fifty shades of grey, I've seen a film of that name and was most unimpressed with the way sadism was presented as a normalised, "safe" sexual practice, and that it was the man shown as the dominant person, and the woman as his willing victim. However I also believe that what goes on between consenting adults as far as sex goes, is not for government or church to interfere with. Informed consent is an important consideration.

Capt Brad, interesting snippet of dialogue, from a movie that deals with military training, bastardisation, abuse etc, and a salutory lesson in how bad training & abuse, lack of oversight lead to tragedy.

Ogion, we do not use a certain expelled players name in the forum, so I would suggest you consider using " krellin & he who shall not be named"
"He who shall not be named" threatened legal action against this site over that and other issues.

That first comment about who is disliked is poorly expressed, it might be inferred that I think Dipbro Brainbomb should be more disliked than me, which was not my intention. I think a lot of the dislike aimed at either, and both if us is unfair

A distinction must be made between ethics and morals, or morality. Every people, even the most uncivilized and uncultured, has its own morality or sum of prescriptions which govern its moral conduct. Nature had so provided that each man establishes for himself a code of moral concepts and principles which are applicable to the details of practical life, without the necessity of awaiting the conclusions of science. Ethics is the scientific or philosophical treatment of morality.

MajorMitchell- you are a good lad. A real scholar and purveyor of tales. Full of whimsy and charm

Okay, Brad--now, what does that have to do with anything?

Really? He who must not ne named threatened legal action? I missed some stuff, pretty sure i had dip games against them...

I am not an infallible source of information on the acrimonious fight between that certain person and the Mods & site owners, I was on a "sabbatical" for slightly more than a year when it happened. But that is certainly the impression I was given when I enquired. I think it would be extremely foolish to mention that certain expelled players name to Omnipotent Zultar.
I see it as a way to demonstrate where my loyalties lie, to WebDiplomacy, not to that cork brained clown who behaved so offensively. It's a way of "shunning" that person. We don't mention his former player name. It's a player name that is too much associated with worst types of disgraceful behaviour, imho.

Mm I was not active from 2013-2015 either. I missed the purge. The forum was so toxic when I first joined I just avoided it

@Brain - i don't think i've taken any breaks, and i don't think the forum has gotten tha much better.

Any purging, that i failed to notice, had the effect of quietening things down a lot, until those people were replaced... And now it is back to its noisey old self.

Not sure about the toxicity levels, because i seem to he able to tolerate them even still.

(Obviously it looks differently for a new comer... But once you're deeply ingrained in the forum, you can tell when some thread will be ignored, or full of comments criticising the OP... Or what kind of thing it is just not ok to say.)