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GeneralLegion (102 D)
10 Aug 12 UTC
Fast-5-2 gameID=97090
Join gameID=97090 ! 5min rounds
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kivan26 (100 D)
11 Aug 12 UTC
Someone ready for one quicki game?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=97161
5 minutes turn, anon players
Please, welcome in.
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
10 Aug 12 UTC
Gain the World, Lose Your Soul #3
A 36 hour 101 buy-in world map game.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=97107
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Favorite Authors?
I'm partial to P.G. Wodehouse, myself.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Aug 12 UTC
A word on String Seconds versus Draws... From the creator himself.
Objectives Other Than Winning
By Allan B. Calhamer

http://www.diplom.org/~diparch/resources/calhamer/objectives.htm
Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Aug 12 UTC
Excerpts


"The draw, of course, is the only objective other than victory that is recognised by the Rulebook."

"the game is probably a draw with best play from the overwhelming majority of positions actually encountered"

"a draw in Diplomacy may be more conclusive than victories among an equivalent number of chess players. If seven players play Diplomacy, and three draw, those three have scored above the four others. If six players play in three chess games, and all the games are wins, those three have scored above only three others, rather than four"

Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Aug 12 UTC
Doh! Strong Seconds. I type string so often in code...
I usually start my games with a mind to work towards a three-way draw. An outright win only becomes possible - and therefore a goal worthy of pursuing in the short term - later in the game.
Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Aug 12 UTC
You should talk three way but be on the lookout to gain that slight edge that will put you over the top in the end game the whole time you play. I strive to stay one or two ahead of my allies. No more lest they get worried, and no less lest they do to me what I plan to do to them when the opportunity arrives.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
11 Aug 12 UTC
Another excerpt: "One of the bad features about scoring the draw equally for all participants is that some three or four players in a game might lose sight of the primary objective altogether, and play only to knock out the other players, after which they would probably have a draw, since none of them had manoeuvred to weaken the others."

I think this is a trap that many, including myself, often fall into, denying ourselves a better game.
I think it's the risk-averse way to do things. It's not always possible or wise to throw a Hail Mary.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
11 Aug 12 UTC
I sometimes find it too risky to shoot for a solo if there are still two other nations with power left. It's too easy to screw something up.
Alex987 (174 D)
11 Aug 12 UTC
I never aim for a draw, but I try to do it in an organized way that doesn't burn too many bridges and leaves me some room if I fail. I dislike aiming for a three-way draw because it creates an uneven triangle that ultimately is too conservative. Usually whoever stabs another first gets dogpiled on, and can't fend them off. This makes the game too timid and forces only a half-win. Unless of course the 3-way draw you guys are talking about is something like a stalemate line with the amount of SCs being 17-9-8. In that case the 17 is a close goal to aim for, of course +1.
Alex987 (174 D)
11 Aug 12 UTC
A situation like this can be showcased in something like a Western Triple. If the Triple gets a few turns of momentum, it's usually whoever breaks the alliance first that gets dogpiled on with less experienced players.
I for one dislike the whole notion of the strong second, as well as playing for a 3-way draw. I hate organized endings such as that (much of which stems from me being eliminated in those style endings) and thus will always try to change things up until my options are truly exhausted. So pro-tip to those who play me - if I say "Let's 3WD!" I am lying to your face.

But it seems as though Mr. Calhamer shares my opinions on strong seconds and 3WD.

"One of the bad features about scoring the draw equally for all participants is that some three or four players in a game might lose sight of the primary objective altogether, and play only to knock out the other players, after which they would probably have a draw, since none of them had manoeuvred to weaken the others. In this way, players might achieve above average results, at least until other players got onto them. However, they would not be likely to achieve high results, such as the highest places in a tournament, or for that matter, even a single victory. Thus, if the value of the draw were increased, there might be incentive to play for the draw from the start, which is anti-competitive; whereas if the value of the draw were reduced, there might be less incentive to unite to stop the leader, which would also be an anti-competitive result."

"Some players have argued that giving credit for "strong second" is realistic. This result is hard to determine, for when a player has won, he has presumably gained control of Europe, something which one country has never done. The strong second, then, is the last or largest to fall to the conqueror. Whether this situation is a good one or not is hard to say. The Mongols used to give the worst treatment to those of their enemies that held out the longest."
Still reading the article, and found this quote to those who didn't follow the link

"However, in the final battle to prevent the leader from winning, one would normally expect the second place player to be the leader of the opposition. Consequently, something must be detracted from his achievement because he must bear some of the responsibility for the failure in the final battle."


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DragonTamerZ (100 D)
11 Aug 12 UTC
Online Game starting at 8:10
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=97145
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
11 Aug 12 UTC
Film: Panic Button
This movie is a bit disturbing ......anybody seen it?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
06 Aug 12 UTC
Thucydides loves noobz EOG
As you all may know I promised to finish my games and other obligations, this EOG being one. (gameID=93465) More inside.
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semck83 (229 D(B))
10 Aug 12 UTC
Awesome news story
(Watch the video, don't read the story).

http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/northland/target-of-alleged-murder-for-hire-plot-talks-about-ex-wife
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
10 Aug 12 UTC
Did anyone *not* see this coming?
A high-ranking Mexican drug cartel operative: “Fast and Furious” wasn’t about tracking guns, it was about supplying them.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/high-ranking-mexican-drug-cartel-member-makes-explosive-allegation-fast-and-furious-is-not-what-you-think-it-is/
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LegatusMentiri (100 D)
10 Aug 12 UTC
The conjoined twins reality tv show
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/conjoined-twins--abby---brittany--get-their-own-reality-show--video-.html
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F4shark (490 D)
10 Aug 12 UTC
Taking over and loosing points instantly
I think it is unfair when someone takes over in a game and has to lay in a bet in an unfair situation. For example: it is Autumn diplomacy and you take over a country with 6 SC's, while 2 out of 6 are already occupied and there is not a chance in regaining them. So when the move ends you lose 2 SC's instantly and valuable points. Meaning that the system should consider this possible loss of points. Before you even start you are punished.
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Yonni (136 D(S))
06 Aug 12 UTC
Curiosity
Massively awesome achievement. Unfortunately, it hasn't received the same popular news coverage as the LHC experiments but certainly worth celebrating.
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
Texas Executes Mentally Retarded Man
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/08/steinbeck-family-outraged-texas-judge-cited-of-mice-and-men-in-execution-ruling/
Is this a great country or what? [/sarcasm]
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ava2790 (232 D(S))
10 Aug 12 UTC
Partying with edi birsan
At the world diplomacy championship 22

What did you do tonight?
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GeneralLegion (102 D)
10 Aug 12 UTC
gameID=97090
5 min fast rounds
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Yonni (136 D(S))
10 Aug 12 UTC
SC in Tuscany
The SC in Rome is fairly poor for building fleets compared to the one in Naples. However, of the SC was in Tuscany, Italy's ability to attack France would increase considerable. Conversely, it would also make it easier for France to attack Italy. All in all, do you think SC Tuscany would make Italy stronger or weaker?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
08 Aug 12 UTC
Site won't let me logout.
I'm trying to logout so I can log in as hellalt as I am sitting for him and the site keeps logging me back in as soon as I click the logoff button on the logoff page. Anyone else have this happen?
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podium (498 D)
06 Aug 12 UTC
Wanted
See inside for details
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ScottS (100 D)
10 Aug 12 UTC
How does one remove an account from this site?
See title.
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yebellz (729 D(G))
06 Aug 12 UTC
One liners
Whoever put the "B" in "subtle" is a clever bastard.
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NKcell (0 DX)
10 Aug 12 UTC
Draw
Please guys. I have to run, please draw this game:
gameID=97055

i didn't think it would take this long. Thanks.
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MichiganMan (5121 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
Thursday Troubles-5 EoG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=97039&msgCountryID=0

Two CD's, and France refuses to draw. Will this insanity NEVER end?!?
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viejo (100 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
Para jugadores hispanoparlantes
Por si interesa: http://www.labsk.net/index.php?topic=91179
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BosephJennett (866 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
Drawing is the last refuge of the desperate
I've seen a lot of people, when their end is getting near, suddenly throw out a vote for a draw. I'm curious how people read this: a last-ditch attempt to escape defeat or simply using one more tool in the arsenal?
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
27 Jul 12 UTC
Favorite Bible Quotes and Discussion
While it's not everybody's cup of tea, this thread is a place where we can have an occasional discussion about specific Bible quotes. If you don't want to see it, just mute the thread, and no harm done.
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
08 Aug 12 UTC
Cancelling, pausing/unpausing, and cheat accusation policies
Details below.
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vexlord (231 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
Last spot!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=96597
Anon Winner take all
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
04 Aug 12 UTC
The Ultamite Showdown
the old thread was locked, so here is the new one.
28 replies
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WDEnder (232 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
How to connect a moderator?
Just want to ask question.. In a game with no chat whatsover but seeing two countries next to each other are much deeper ally then i've ever seen in game where negoation is possible... is there way to have a check on those type of players?
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