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Zmaj (215 D(B))
10 May 12 UTC
EoG: Those crazy live gunboats
gameID=88520
An interesting and well-balanced game.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
10 May 12 UTC
Obama Publicly Supports Same-Sex Marriage
http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/president-obama-affirms-his-support-for-same-sex-marriage.html

Well, it IS an election year...nevertheless, not exactly a great vote-winner in states he won in 2008, necessarily...so--thoughts (both on Obama's backing it, the issue, and what impact this may have on the 2012 race?)
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
10 May 12 UTC
My quick thoughts:

On Obama's backing it:

I thought he might back this, albeit after he won a second term (if he does indeed win a second term, which I believe he will, Obama vs. Romney isn't enough of a show-stopper for the GOP to topple Obama, in my opinion...ironically, as much as I can't stand his views and aspects of the man himself, Ron Paul would probably be a more dynamic and "real" choice, Obama vs. Paul is much more a pro/con sort of evaluation of real differences, Obama/Romney, for lack of a better metaphor, is Coke/Vanilla Coke, and Incumbent Coke Classic wins that EVERY time!) ;)

On the issue:

It's about time, YES, gay marriage should be legalized nation-wide...I entirely disagree that this is a matter to be decided amongst the states, as 1. That's led to nothing but more of a mess over the issue (see: my native California saying "Yes" then "No" and now "Maybe" pending another ruling on Prop 8) and 2. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE...if they can find a place that will marry them, they should be allowed to without the state butting in and saying their love isn't "valid" enough to be considered marriage, with all the legal and social benefits that entails.

On the impact it may have on the 2012 race:

Well, Obama was never going to win in the South as it is...

The more North you go, the more swing-states it may play well in...but how well will this go over in those two big Electoral gamble-battleground states, Ohio and Florida?
Putin33 (111 D)
10 May 12 UTC
Stop duplicating threads.
Putin33 (111 D)
10 May 12 UTC
"Well, Obama was never going to win in the South as it is..."

He won NC & VA last cycle.
terry32smith (0 DX)
10 May 12 UTC
Who cares? If 2 guys or 2 girls love each other and want to have a piece of paper that says they are going to be together then why should it bother me? They are not bothering me any.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
10 May 12 UTC
Please use the live gays thread for these advertisements: threadID=872462
terry32smith (0 DX)
10 May 12 UTC
Romney is weak. Paul is weird. And Obama is a celebrity. Obama will win this goin way.
terry32smith (0 DX)
10 May 12 UTC
Thucydides is clearly a fluffier.
terry32smith (0 DX)
10 May 12 UTC
Thucydides is clearly a fluffer
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
10 May 12 UTC
Oops, didn't see 2WL's thread...

Please lock, Mods, my bad.

(But before I go--he DID win VA and NC last cycle, Putin, but given the way the first 4 years have gone and now this latest announcement, I don't know if I see it happening for Obama again in those states.)
Thucydides (864 D(B))
10 May 12 UTC
Thucydides is clearly a fluffer

Thucydides is clearly a fluffer

Thucydides is clearly a fluffer
Thucydides (864 D(B))
10 May 12 UTC
Whoops! Sorry for the triple post guys!Whoops! Sorry for the triple post guys!Whoops! Sorry for the triple post guys!Whoops! Sorry for the triple post guys!Whoops! Sorry for the triple post guys!
Invictus (240 D)
10 May 12 UTC
Obama did this because Biden came out for gay marriage earlier this week. He would much rather have not had to deal with this, but he couldn't still be officially opposed to gay marriage if his Vice President is for it.
Invictus (240 D)
10 May 12 UTC
I also think he's always supported gay marriage, by the way.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
10 May 12 UTC
I agree with Invictus. This is a deliberate move (and a very smart one) by Obama to hold the "I support gay marriage" card in reserve until now. He needs to energize his base, and in any case public opinion on gay marriage has shifted slightly to the left since 2008.

He's supported it the whole time, but decided not to tell anyone until now. Obama is a brilliant campaigner. Too bad he's an awful president.

Personally, I'd be more excited about a Ron Paul v. Obama match-up than a Romney v. Obama match-up.

Also, I think that the GOP establishment is planning on losing this election and waiting until 2016. By that time, Romney and Paul will be irrelevant and the GOP can run a real all-star like Rubio, Daniels, Jeb Bush, or Ryan against whoever will run for the Dems in 2016.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
10 May 12 UTC
@ obiwan

"It's about time, YES, gay marriage should be legalized nation-wide...I entirely disagree that this is a matter to be decided amongst the states, as 1. That's led to nothing but more of a mess over the issue"

It is a matter to be decided at the state level. America is a dual federalist republic. The federal government cannot act outside of its constitutional bounds. Forcing states to do anything opens a big can of worms that you don't want to open.

"SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE...if they can find a place that will marry them, they should be allowed to without the state butting in and saying their love isn't "valid" enough to be considered marriage, with all the legal and social benefits that entails."

If you are arguing that no level of government should interfere with marriage, I completely agree with you. Frankly, I don't see why the government even needs to know if two people are married. (I am a proponent of a flat tax system, and hospital visitation rights and other minor matters should be a non-issue)

If you are arguing that current laws against gay marriage are religiously motivated, I also agree with you. However, I disagree that this makes it inherently unconstitutional. Let's say that the people of Texas elect mostly conservative state legislators that vow to keep gay marriage illegal, and they act accordingly. We can safely assume that most of those conservative voters were religiously motivated when they voted. If you think that you can enforce complete separation of church and state in the voting booth, then you are crazy. Freedom OF religion is not the same as freedom FROM religion. As long as the state does not tell you which religion to practice or give rewards to (a) certain religion(s), then that state is within its constitutional bounds.


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Poozer (962 D)
08 May 12 UTC
EOG - Spring Gunboat 2012, Game 1-C-2
gameID=86118
Won by Balls Deep (England), assisted by Gobbledydook (Italy).
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semck83 (229 D(B))
10 May 12 UTC
Interesting Archaeological Find
For those interested.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120508103803.htm
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
09 May 12 UTC
Sweet Dreams
One off post for the German apologists out there
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
10 May 12 UTC
New Theory of Online Diplomacy
It seems to me that in our minds diplomacy is a pure game...
36 replies
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mattsh (775 D)
10 May 12 UTC
World - Quebec
What are good starting moves in a no-communications game?
6 replies
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
10 May 12 UTC
I need a new friend!
Lost the old list and one person didn't show up.
Post here if you'd like to join us: gameID=88343
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Vaftrudner (2533 D)
10 May 12 UTC
EOG fast gunboat-32
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dubmdell (556 D)
07 May 12 UTC
@ Pseudo-postal players
Please cancel. None of us apparently has time for press.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
05 May 12 UTC
Presidential elections in France
Vote here!

Sarkozy or Hollande? Who would be the best for France? For Europe? For the world?
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
08 May 12 UTC
The Game, by Neil Strauss
This is hilarious; the thread titled "What's so great about this move" accidentally triggered my vague memories of this book. Anybody read it? Anybody had a life-changing experience because of it? :-)
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largeham (149 D)
09 May 12 UTC
HAPPY BIRTHDAY KARL MARX
In true Webdip style, I have to jump on the latest bandwagon of threads. So happy birthday Karl (though it was actually 4 days ago).
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Putin33 (111 D)
09 May 12 UTC
Happy Victory Day
Забьём козла, козла, браточки?
Забьём, само собой!
Так стукнем раз и стукнем два,
Точка! Добой!
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President Eden (2750 D)
08 May 12 UTC
HAPPY BIRTHDAY F.A. HAYEK
As I recently learned from webDiplomacy that being libertarian = I must worship the ground Austrian economists bless with the serene touch of their feet, I hereby dedicate this thread to His Greatness F.A. Hayek. Happy birthday, Freddy!
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
08 May 12 UTC
HAPPY BIRTHDAY VINCE CABLE! :D
Words cannot express how lucky British politics is to have the presence of Dr Vince Cable and I know many people on WebDip admire him. To pay our respects to this beloved man, I hereby dedicate this thread to wishing Vince Cable a happy birthday. Happy birthday, Dr Cable!
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Umbrella (119 D)
09 May 12 UTC
Noob question - What happens if game time starts w/less than 7 players?
I haven't played on this site, so I am curious. I have signed up for a game that should be starting soon, but only 2 people have signed up.
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mattsh (775 D)
09 May 12 UTC
Message history available after game
Why can't we see message history after a game is over? It would be interesting for learning and review about communication strategy.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
09 May 12 UTC
Romancing the bike...
http://grist.org/biking/romancing-the-bike-the-seduction-of-pedal-powered-transport/#.T6hM3dyEAww.twitter
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
09 May 12 UTC
Can the TD of the World Cup contact the Mods ASAP
Thanks.
2 replies
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Chanakya. (703 D)
22 Apr 12 UTC
CLUB DIPLOMACY
I am planning to start a series in which the members of this CLUB will be eligible to play. Games will be on Classic Board and Bets will be of maximum 50 D.


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headward7 (139 D)
08 May 12 UTC
9-centre Austria needed 24hr open-press
Lucky you, nobody nibbled on your impressive bulk while you slept... Come play!
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DiploMerlin (245 D)
08 May 12 UTC
Yet Another Rule Clarification
1. If you attempt to move to a square occupied by your own unit that is supporting another unit do you cut off support?
2. If you support a move to a square occupied by your own unit that you hope will move and an opposition unit attacks the same square without support do you win the square and dislodge your own unit?

I think the answer to both is "no" but I want to be sure.
7 replies
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HDK (100 D)
05 May 12 UTC
AL - CIADUH!?
I heard from someone recently that the CIA was responsible for the establishment of Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. Is this true?
30 replies
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
29 Apr 12 UTC
EoG : "H. Kissinger's Allies-3"
gameID=81430

Slot reserved
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
09 May 12 UTC
Carson Non-Daily Happy Birthdays
Lindsay Pavao should have been in the final and won the whole damn show...
Stupid American voting...
And oh, happy birthday to whoever.
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
08 May 12 UTC
What's So Great About This Move?
I've been working with Vaft on a more detailed Openings comparison for each country and I came across what appears to be an anomaly and I'm curious, of all the Turkish openings, which do you favor (S01 moves only) and what do you think about this: Con -> Bul, Smy -> Ank, Ank -> BLA?
37 replies
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brainbomb (290 D)
08 May 12 UTC
What goes on in the North (A Gunboat's tale)
As England, sometimes it can be quite mind numbing in a Gunboat to watch a powerful Turkey or Austria have a field day with inept adverseries all around. The reason why its so irritating is because often France, Germany and England waste many good years battling for ground to retake or steal a lone center like Belgium, Sweden, Holland, Denmark, Brest, Liverpool ect ect.
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BJC27 (0 DX)
08 May 12 UTC
When a game drags on and on and on...
1922 lol, this has lasted way too long... I'm not saying what country I am, but this is ridiculous... gameID=88270
50 replies
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
02 May 12 UTC
Will you be my friend?
I would like to play a game with people I've rarely or never played before. Standard Settings, Low Pot, 24-48hr, Non-anon.
I reserve the right not to be friends with you for any reason.
So, will you be my friend?
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