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taos (281 D)
01 Oct 11 UTC
next 64 days?
gameID=68343
how come?
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santosh (335 D)
01 Oct 11 UTC
Opinions?
http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2011/10/01/iraq-joins-the-us-supply-chain/
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EmperorMaximus (551 D)
30 Sep 11 UTC
see OP for confusion
Are we going to redo this or are we giving up on it?
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dr rush (0 DX)
30 Sep 11 UTC
Friendships....
I was wondering. People play this with their mates. People develop friendships on this site....

at what point does that become meta gaming? Im sure some people will argue it is straight from the off, whilst others argue friends more likely to stab each other
what do others think?
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Levelhead (1419 D(G))
28 Sep 11 UTC
Can you choose a country in an anonymous gunboat game?
I have gotten the SAME country in the THREE out of FOUR World DIP Gunboat games. THREE TIMES THE SAME ROTTEN COUNTRY.

Is this just bad luck or did I not see how to set a preference list???
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Sep 11 UTC
Calling All Evil Communists. Blind Liberals, Filfthy Elitists, Or Just Anti-TC People!
Friends, Romans, Webdippers, lend me your ears!
Tettleton's Chew has imposed his tyrannical, dogmatic, insidious control over our boards for too long! Murdering--er, muting--liberals en masse! Sending logic to the ghetto! Controlling all viewpoints! Kicking puppies!

VIVE LE REVOLUTION! Take on TC the Terrible! End the Reign of Error!
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justinnhoo (2343 D)
01 Oct 11 UTC
HELP NEEDED!
http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php
italy is not drawing and i keep telling him to draw and he sent me a message saying, "is this an order? who do you think you are?"
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DonXavier (1341 D)
01 Oct 11 UTC
Join BattleAwesomeica
3 players remaining... let's get this out of pregame...
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martinck1 (4464 D(S))
29 Sep 11 UTC
New Game - Lots of Chat
Calling uclabb, Dejan0707, President Eden, Countess Tillian, rdrivera and The Hanged Man
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TBroadley (178 D)
28 Sep 11 UTC
Don't Stop Me Now EOGs
Finished game is finished. gameID=66233

Well played by Austria. I (Germany) probably would have helped you after England's stab if you hadn't attacked me. I'll write up an EOG tonight.
JesusPetry (258 D)
28 Sep 11 UTC
1901: I open north, convoy to Norway and try for Belgium (with a fleet), greedy France does the same, while friendly Germany offers support, but for the army.
1902: I see France's build in Brest and decide to defend against it with a massive fleet barrier, while I help Germany into Sweden.
1903: I break into the Med, while trying for St Pete, but Germany seems to be giving the wrong supports... was it on purpose?
1904: I surround France in the Spring, while Germany tries something sneaky with Scandinavia, which I don't fall for. Fantastic Fall turn gets me St Pete, Brest and Tunis - Italy is caught sleeping.
1905: I try to use my three fleet builds to improve my position, that has become a bit outstretched. I somehow expected to lose a center, but managed to keep them all!
1906: I give up on fighting to keep Brest, gamble for Spain but lose. But now I'm not outstretched anymore and prepare to resume gains.
1907: France is busy with Germany, so I get to find a better attacking position and finally take Spain. I decide I can win and start to prepare a stab on Germany. Meanwhile Austria is getting dangerously big.
1908: France's choice of disband gifts me Portugal. I take Sweden from Germany to get a second build. I'd realize soon that this stab wasn't very well timed.
1909: France is AWOL for a while, so I take Brest. Germany moves back against me but I manage to hold to my gains. For now.
1910: I see that Austria is nearing a win with Germany on his back foot and move my southern fleets against him. I "let" Germany into St Pete in the Spring to avoid a disband and retake it in Fall, but at the cost of Sweden. Fortunately, Rome is open for me to take and keep my center count.
1911: At this point, I decide I can't win anymore, but that I need Sweden back to make up for the inevitable loss of Rome. My southern fleets start to form a barrier.
1912: I signal to Germany that I'm a friend again and move more fleets down south.
1913: At this point, the stalemate line is practically set, but Austria keeps trying.
1914: Austria loses Munich!
1915: Germany forgets to give double support hold to Munich and Austria takes it back, getting a fifth fleet.
1916: I see that I'll need to retreat my part of the line a bit, but for now I just have to repeat orders.
1917: Retreat done. The game should go no further than that, but Austria seem to be looking for someone to screw up orders.
1918: Austria keeps trying and eventually loses Munich again!
Then a full retreat phase in which Austria just had to disband is never readied. This was a bit annoying.

Overall a well played game by all the four remaining powers. France defended bravely against the G-E attack, Germany knew when to put grudges aside and Austria was very close to a great win.
Prime example of why I have such a love/hate relationship with gunboat. All it takes is one person screwing you from the first turn for no reason to doom you. Supporting an Austrian who hadn't done anything to help you into Rumania, then waiting a full year after he takes Bulgaria from you to go after him? Come the fuck on, Turkey.

And dude, TBroad... why, man? Why? At least you lived to the draw and at one point owned Sweden, Warsaw and Moscow, but the fact that you lost all three to England and Austria is telling. Why'd you have to screw me over when you didn't even benefit in the end?
"Meanwhile Austria is getting dangerously big."

Well maybe if SOMEONE hadn't imploded the big purple barrier to Austrian expansion... -____-

Seriously, how did Austria get away with stabbing Russia, Turkey AND Italy by 1902? What an embarrassment.
JesusPetry (258 D)
28 Sep 11 UTC
He did play pretty well.
carpenter (645 D)
28 Sep 11 UTC
guys, is a GB game, meaning stabbing is a next to useless term: you can't stab people without negotiations. Either you attack or you assume a kind of truce between you and other players.
Well, apart from the fact that I do not get why:
E builds 3(!) Fleets in 04 getting to a ratio of 5:1, truth being told, there's a Fleet in Tun.
A uses 7(!) units to take down T (sent back to their smal peninsula) in 08/09
G made in my opinion the mistake of building a fleet off of Moscow (07), you had a locked down, crippled and demoralized France (three times the same moves means demoralized in my opinion). Building an army let to: 1. a hard battle for Scandinavia and 2. not taking Nth in 09
I'm not a pro, I'm actually far from it. Then I've a nice question for whoever responds: do you think my analysis is flaw?
carpenter (645 D)
28 Sep 11 UTC
^^or do you agree^^
acmac10 (120 D(B))
28 Sep 11 UTC
I'll write an EOG tonight as I'm on my phone. Great play by remaining players.
Stab, attack, whatever - if you're getting caught up on that you're missing the point.

Austria should not have gotten away with that at all.
Draugnar (0 DX)
28 Sep 11 UTC
Gunboat stab =

Offer support to territory in spring to indicate alliance, then withdraw support and isntead us that support to attack the SC which had previously been the recipient of said offer.
centurion1 (1478 D)
28 Sep 11 UTC
only gunboat noobs dont believe there are no alliances.
carpenter (645 D)
28 Sep 11 UTC
@Draugnar
I was not familiar with that. Clarified!
santosh (335 D)
28 Sep 11 UTC
Agree with Eden there. Spring 1902 is quite the spectacle. Austria is the last country that can afford to offend all her neighbors and expect to live long. Slightly poor play by Turkey, I feel. He repositioned himself only in 1906 or so, by which time Germany had (prematurely) attacked Russia.

Unfortunate for trip, he got jumped. Defending against that possibility would have looked like he was trying to attack Austria. I suppose he discounted that attack as unlikely, given that it almost always lets Russia and Turkey tear into Austria' back.
JNewton (391 D)
28 Sep 11 UTC
Interesting game.
Thanks for the comments, made it fun to switch between your thoughts and the game
hwh2219 (0 DX)
28 Sep 11 UTC
@Eden you could say it was all a fluke however I just had a good italy and Turkey
However i do agree that i shouldn't have got away with it. I live Gunboat
TBroadley (178 D)
28 Sep 11 UTC
1901: I prefer the E/G alliance, as it leads to England building exclusively fleets and Germany building exclusively armies after the conquest of France. To that end, I supported England into Belgium (didn't work) and rejected Russia from Sweden.
1902: Move into Belgium and GoB, but can't break into Bur without England's help (which was not forthcoming).
1903: Try supporting England into StP with the intention of moving south against Russia. When he didn't accept it, I decided to intentionally misorder and try to take both Nor and StP in 1904.
1904: My trickery didn't work and I'm making no progress against France.
1905: Finally break into Burgundy... not that it will help much without England's support (again, not forthcoming). That was actually smart on England's part, as he gained 3 blue centers while I gained none.
1906: Moving in force against Russia seemed profitable at the time, and I did reap the benefits of Moscow in 1907, but it spread me way too thin on my Austrian flank. Again, no progress in France.
1907: Burgundy was the furthest I would get in France as I get kicked out this year. I gain Moscow and build an army, hoping to continue working with England against the growing Austria.
1908: Didn't work obviously, as England takes Sweden. Darn. I turn my offensive on England, intending revenge... or at least to get my centers back. It was probably around this time that I realized the problem of an E/G alliance: it's very easy for G to be sandwiched between E and whatever power is prevalent in the east.
1909: Moved away from Austria but played a rearguard action to stop me bleeding too many centers.
1910-1911: The futile war against England smolders on, and I turn back against the dangerously large Austria. I can see the stalemate line...
1912: I lose Munich. Not a problem, for Berlin can still be held with Kie and BAL.
1913: More retreating by England and I. I must say, those were nice moves made by England to slow Austria's fleet mobilization around Italy.
1914-1915: I support France into Munich but neglect the double support, affording Austria a further fleet.
The rest of the game: basically repeating the same moves over and over. England falls back to a stable stalemate line (I was a little scared there). We do take Munich at the end of the game, and Austria finally draws after some waiting.

Eden: Totally did benefit me, as it gave me more centers and more time to survive to the draw. It also cut down the size of the draw.

carpenter: At that time, I was looking for peace with England and built an army with the intention of attacking Austria. In 20/20 hindsight, I think I made the right move. Another fleet would have helped me against England, but it could have turned him against me permanently.
carpenter (645 D)
29 Sep 11 UTC
@TB, though what I said was wrong, you got what I meant, thumbs up.
So for you the game until 07 was like:
truces: E (now I see what you mean: a unit next to your northern centers is scary), A (though large and facing T, an attack on this might result in an attack by E)
enemy: F (with 4 centers small and not a threat, especially with a G army in Pic & Bur)
and didn't care (a lot) about T.
you say your intention was to attack A, that intention was already lost in 2 moves and a sketchy "one-center stab"? So much for persistency. I didn't follow the game while it was playing, but I guess this was approximately the time you started voting for a draw.
And honestly, for A needing 7(!) units to beat down T, needs to be punished. Period.
With A already having 5 units committed to T [and 2 to Italy], you should/could have made your move. In that case you had better attack Bur with Ruh in F05 -- your orders still raise my eyebrows, because Bur-Ruh messes up your defense -- building in Ber in 05 instead and go with that unit to Mos. Now, march south for Vie with Mun and Wa [Ber could join, as R likely returned to Mos] in 06. Most likely, this will result in a firm stab in the back of A (i.e. at least 3 centers are gained truth: it takes 2/2.5 years), a new ally (T), as well a build (no loss for not taking Mos), and thus: not in another sketchy "single-center stab" from E.
Moving two units you used in the west to the south does decrease your position against France, but the line Bel/Ruh/Mun is much easier to hold and hard to penetrate for F without an allied E (i.e. Nth/Eng are not allied with Pic).
Stressedlines (1559 D)
29 Sep 11 UTC
gameID=68959

Will someone look at this. I played Austria, and tell me at what point I could have done ANYTHING to change the outcome. I think I was doomed by Italy, Turkey and Austria all not paying attention to france, and forcing me to play the role of 'Fredrich the Great" in the 7 years war, and fight all 3 of them at once, while England drops, and Germany played. average, so france walked all over both of them.

It really burns me, that even on the LAST turn, with France at 16, Turkey and Russia both attack me, as France is sitting there gobbling up turf everywhere else.
xSMTx (210 D)
29 Sep 11 UTC
I was Turkey in that game, and while I am sorry that you got caught in the middle of an impossible situation, I was in no place to effect the outcome of that. I would have needed to either carve a path through Russia or convoy into Italy. France just simply had the right strategy in a game with weak players and no alliances.

And by that last turn, we really couldn't have stopped the French. I was blocked up in the corner, and Russia was so busy defending Sevastopol, that they didn't notice France coming through the North Flank. We were doomed from the beginning
Stressedlines (1559 D)
29 Sep 11 UTC
you know what would have been the rigth move there? You moving from grecce to Ionia to help, and supporting my sebia with your bulgaria. I would have understood what it meant, and moved serbia up.

xSMTx (210 D)
29 Sep 11 UTC
You were in the Ionian Sea too. And there's really no point in us fighting, it was Germany and England's inability to hold their own, and Russia's inability to look past Sevestopol, and engage France that lost it for us all. Although, I will admit to not really looking for an alliance with you. In my experience, Austria and Turkey don't work together because Turkey needs to get out eventually, and I don't like to stab in gunboat
acmac10 (120 D(B))
30 Sep 11 UTC
Guys, no hijacking threads. Have your conversation in a PM or a different thread; this thread of the EOG's of Don't Stop Me Now. Anyways, to my EOG:

1901: Opening was somewhat anti-German, but understandable in gunboat. Germany was pointing Anglo-Saxon while I made an unsuccessful bid for Belgium
1902: A reason why I hate France; so many options, none of them are neutral, or if they are, they are ineffective at best. Fleet Brest wasn't really my preference, but it was apparent that I couldn't be a passive France in this game.
1903: England breaks into the MAO, G+E are clearly allied, I'm the butt of the West
1904: A reason why I love France: its natural defensive positioning and easy stalemates (stalemates only in gunboat). If I were Austria, I would collapse because I don't have a Switzerland blocking me from Russia and Turkey.
1905: More general fighting....
1906: I get myself...Brest and another army? Yes. Stalemate line against Germany has fallen though.
1907: England intelligently uses the Mediterranean to get into Iberia. I abandon that initiative as I'm more likely to defend my land-based SC's than the water-based.
1908: Lose Portugal, so now Spain and Portugal belong to England. Austria tries (ha!) to get past Piedmont (hint: you need a fleet)
1909: Lalalalalala
1910: I move EAST because there aren't armies on my homeland, and I sense Austria's growing presence.
1911: All the West is friends! All the West is friends! All the West is friends! (to the tune of "Why Can't We Be Friends?"
1912: Germany loses Munich.
1913: Snooze.
1914: I take Munich! (yay)
1915: I lose Munich! From now on it's pretty simple: A Bur-Mun A Mar-Pie
1916: Positioning
1917: Positioning
1918: YES THE DRAW! I voted for this in like '05 when I started deceasing (starting, birth, deceasing, death, fun word play) Also took Munich to make my final SC count a grand total of 3
hwh2219 (0 DX)
30 Sep 11 UTC
1901: Open slightly randomly bouncing Rus in Gal, Itl in tri while Tri moves to Alb
Aut :bounce Itl in Tris from Vie Bud Moves To ser and alb to Greece (2 builds, alright)
1902 yay im not dead yet support myeself into Rum and Tyr (Italy and Turkey also help)
Aut : Take Ven and Bul (3 builds, excellent)
1903: support myself into pie hold the rest
Aut: support myself into Tuscany and lose Gal
1904 try and fail to take Rome :( lose Rum :( :(
Aut: aargh lose rum destroy in Gre :(
1905; still alive get unit in rome cant break into Rum
Aut: get Rome still cant get Rum
1906: unit in Apu, rome and io sea, italy certainly dead aargh turkey gets unit in bul :(
Aut; get Rum finally and Naples 1 down 6 to go turkey gets bul
1907: unit in UKr start moving away from italy no one poses a threat round there carefully watching Germany
Aut:get Bul and Sev but lose Gree ( 1 build)
1908: exchange bul for gree with turkey
Aut: get greece retake Bul
1909: try and yet again fail to get into Mar unble to break ger cautious im getting big putting unit to protect from a potential german attack
Aut:Get Smy and Arm yay finally cracked turkey elated that im winning forgety to plan the rest of the centres i want
1910: get Con Engalnd puts fleets in med noo i lose a centre
Aut: Get Ank Turkey dead lose rome to eng :( also get War
1911; try to take munich and Mos both fail get Rome back
Aut : Get Mos and Rom starting to fell as though its in the Bag(forgetting about theline)
1912get munich
1913 realise i have fallen to the line waiting for Ger or Eng to kill France pissed oof im not goig to win
1914 waiting
1915 waitng
1916 waiting
1917 waiting
1918 waiting (contacted by mods aout holding the game up, try to tell him to pm the people about killing france) then told i hav to draw it
1919 Draw:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
1911
acmac10 (120 D(B))
30 Sep 11 UTC
Only in a extremely novice game (like first-time players) would England and France be stupid enough to try to kill me. Reasons being:

1) I held 2 vital stalemate positions (my armies weren't floating around in Gascony or anything)
2) Paris would be almost impossible to get as Germany had concentrated all his armies against you
3) Marseilles? Just no. No.
AX3019 (0 DX)
30 Sep 11 UTC
i no but i could still try could i not
AX3019 (0 DX)
30 Sep 11 UTC
sorry just helping out a friend in need with this account for a day its actually hwh2219 at the moment AX coming back 5:00 2nite


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Chester (0 DX)
30 Sep 11 UTC
I need a admin to unpause this game
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mariscal (0 DX)
29 Sep 11 UTC
cheating?
pls check this, live game "silent..." gameID=68963. first italy nmr, austria grows a lot about this. france in tyrolia, never took open viena or triest, austria did never care to cover. later someone joined italy, (when my turkish fleet finally reachs italy) only to bring austrians in his homelands. more than strange
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Octavious (2701 D)
26 Sep 11 UTC
The Value of a Human Life
This site attracts a fairly wide section of humanity (at least politically), so where better to try and hammer out what a human life is actually worth?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Sep 11 UTC
Lmao Peace Corps annual budget is less than US spends in 5 hours in Iraq
And less than the budget of the army marching band as well
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 Sep 11 UTC
The Movie I DREAD More Than Any Other...
..."Anonymous!" I've been getting questions about this hack job every single day, EVERYONE asking me, "Are you seeing it?!?! Is it true?!?!"

Well, folks, I just watched a live debate on the film with the makers...they have Shakespeare MURDER Marlowe and Elizabeth pump out TONS of kiddies! So: anyone HERE seeing it? And what does everyone think about this?
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dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
30 Sep 11 UTC
I have a cunning plan
What if we all try and derail all of TC's threads, so that he mutes every single person on the forum? Then every one of his topics will be him arguing with himself. It's not like a reasonable discussion can be produced in those topics, so we won't miss out on much anyway.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
29 Sep 11 UTC
Topic to debate, more or less formally
There are a few rules here so see inside.
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WardenDresden (239 D(B))
26 Sep 11 UTC
Why conservatives want to end many social programs.
It's not that we hate the poor, downtrodded, abused people. It's one simple thing; we expect adults to act like adults. If that is too much for us to ask, then maybe we need to re-evaluate the direction our society is headed.
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Victorious (768 D)
26 Sep 11 UTC
would it not be wise to...?
Look trough the paused games and cancel those paused for to long?
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umbletheheep (1645 D)
30 Sep 11 UTC
Universal Healthcare When I Rule the World!
gameID=68988 - 5 minutes / winner takes all!
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tricky (148 D)
28 Sep 11 UTC
CDs
Not mentioning any current games, and following the rules, can I please have peoples opinions on going CD in 5 min games following a short start time and giving neighbour countries an immediate advantage. This happens quiote alot and not just in a specific game.
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
29 Sep 11 UTC
Al Qaida's request to Darwyn and Sico
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/al-qaeda-slams-iran-peddling-9-11-conspiracy-183407514.html


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Yonni (136 D(S))
26 Sep 11 UTC
FTL neutrinos. A victory for Big Science?
See inside
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hellalt (24 D)
27 Sep 11 UTC
I don't like the Like buttons.
Like this thread if you don't like them and maybe Kestas will get rid of them.
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Yonni (136 D(S))
07 Sep 11 UTC
Winter Gunboat Tournament - Tier Two
See inside.
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jpgredsox (104 D)
29 Sep 11 UTC
Libyan Intervention
http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/27/free-for-all-up-to-20000-anti-aircraft-missiles-stolen-in-libya/

This is great, just great. Tens of thousands of anti-aircraft missiles literally just sitting around in warehouses and similar facilities. I wonder who could possibly get a hold of those? This is just one of the many, unintended consequences interventionists and neoconservatives disregard when they argue to attack another country.
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Yonni (136 D(S))
29 Sep 11 UTC
Haha. I couldn't be happier for Boston's misery
Tonight was ridiculous...
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umbletheheep (1645 D)
29 Sep 11 UTC
Don't Do Drugs, Do Diplomacy!
gameID=68917 - Live game - Winner Takes All!
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hwh2219 (0 DX)
28 Sep 11 UTC
gameID=66233
What should I have done to win
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
28 Sep 11 UTC
Last night I had a dream...
...that Kestas had changed the colors of the donator icons and I didn't like them very much.

I think I need to take a break from webDip...
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