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Tolstoy (1962 D)
02 Dec 10 UTC
Rank the diplo territories in order of importance using Instant Runoff Voting (IRV)
Vote for the territories you feel are important by listing them in order of importance.
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Agent K (0 DX)
18 Nov 10 UTC
Grand Festive High Wizard Tournament
Where is Abgemacht? What is the status of ye old tournament? I know my games are over
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
06 Dec 10 UTC
Crapity
Xmas approachs.
My wife wants to know what I want
I don't actually *want* anything.
Suggestions?
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numberzero (127 D)
04 Dec 10 UTC
Pushing on to win after a major CD is poor sportsmanship
Or after a first turn CD; especially if more than one. At least thats how I view it.
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Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
05 Dec 10 UTC
A December Holiday Survey
Please respond if you so choose.
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
06 Dec 10 UTC
Austria needed.
We deliberately left you some room to grow, so its not like you're just jumping in to be killed
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Hirsute (161 D)
05 Dec 10 UTC
The best books of all time
I've been working on a list of the supposed "best books of all time" to act as a sort of reading list for myself. I finished it tonight and I figured I'd post it here to see what people think.
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Putin33 (111 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
I was responding to the point about existentialism being "bs". If so then out goes Dostoevsky, Kafka, Hemingway, Steinbeck, Coetzee, Camus, and many others. Weltschmerz is everywhere.

muduri (100 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
I agree with Pastoralan that books seem to lose points the farther they are from NAO and GoB - is Genji the only non-western book mentioned so far? So taking out what's already been mentioned, I'd probably include these:

1) The Mahabharata, Vyasa
2) Journey to the West, Wu Chengen
3) The Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Luo Guanzhong
4) If on a Winter's Night a Traveler (or The Path to the Spiders' Nests), Italo Calvino
5) The Unbearably Lightness of Being, Milan Kundera
6) A Dictionary of the Khazars, Milorad Pavic
7) Snow (or maybe My Name is Red), Orhan Pamuk
9) 100 Years of Solitude, Gabriel Garcia Marquez
9) The Shahnameh, Ferdowsi
10) The Alexandria Quartet, Lawrence Durrell (I know, I know, he's English)

The western books - even poor maligned Gatsby - are obviously great (except maybe Rowling and Pullman - "engrossing" might be more appropriate). But I think these definitely belong as half of a top-20 list.
Dharmaton (2398 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
1984 - is merely ok, his '...revisited' is a 'nice' essay (for those times)

@muduri - Nice List !
checkmate (0 DX)
06 Dec 10 UTC
I forgot to mention "chess story" by stephan zweig
muduri (100 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
There's also a question of genre - it seems like generally the consensus is, "fiction in the expanded sense": i.e. epics are stories so they're in, but specifically scientific, religious and philosophical works are out. Hence the Mahabharata belongs if the Odyssey does, but if the Bible's not in, then probably neither is Rumi, the Zohar or the Zhuangzi.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
06 Dec 10 UTC
I think that's because they're much less likely to appeal to a larger group of people. For instance, even if you aren't a huge fan of the Civil War, The Killer Angels is still a great book. But, despite how good it is, The Civil War, by Ken Burns (which was listed somewhere in the top 100 would be much harder to stomach) despite how good it is (if you like that). Same goes for any history or religious text.
Dharmaton (2398 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
so the title outta been ' best Novels '...
... I'll add that I have absolutely No Novels in my Library !!!
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
06 Dec 10 UTC
Well, I included two non-fiction: Tuesdays with Morrie and The Narrative of Frederick Douglass, both of which I think could appeal to a wide audience.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
06 Dec 10 UTC
Dog... don't forget about the classics.

the iliad. lol
mcbry (439 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
Epic of Gilgamesh? Sundiata? Africa has many great oral epics that have been recorded and translated.

@Putin, Yeah, I figured that out too late. Hurrah for weltschmertz!
fiedler (1293 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
don't encourage him, he just wants to talk about how wonderful stalin was ;)

I will add the works of Arthur Schopenhaeur, Word as Will and Representation, the wisdom of life etc. And also the strategy books of Ed Luttwak, which are very accessible.

weltschmertz - suck it up crybabies.
mcbry (439 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
Wow,you're really opening up genres there, fiedler. If we're going to include philosophy, I'd say we pretty much have to erase the list and start from 0. Einstein's lectures on Relativity? My System by Aron Nimzovitch? The Kama Sutra? Principles and Administration of Linux by Mercado and Fernández? Seems like some criteria are needed.
fiedler (1293 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
ok, I would suggest the criteria is books that you would recommend to any adult to read. I guess probably strategy is a little too specialised, I know you could not make me read that Linux book even at gunpoint! ;) But yes Kama Sutra - good call
Octavious (2701 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
Now the the genres are opening up nicely, I feel it's high time someone made a shout for the 2007 AA Road Atlas of Great Britain (incl speed camera locations) and the truly groudbreaking Ford Escort and Orion Service and Repair Manual: 1990-2000: H to X reg (Haynes Service and Repair Manuals: 1737).

Don't know where i'd be without them :)
pastoralan (100 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
@fiedler: OK, I shouldn't have picked on you because you hadn't heard of a specific book. I was really reacting to your dismissal of "Huckleberry Finn."
Putin33 (111 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
Part of the problem of a lack of Eastern literature is that much of the good stuff was destroyed by the Islamic conquests, at least in Persia the Arab conquerors annihilated every bit of art and culture that was non-Islamic after 641 AD.
fiedler (1293 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
@Octavious: pfffffffftt the 2011 Atlas blows the 2007 Atlas away. The 2011 has 103 city, town and port plans, whilst the 2007 has only 100. Plus the paper in the 2011 is produced from environmentally sustainable resources.

Fully agree on the Haynes manuals tho, you know when your repair manual cover is available on a coffee mug, you've really changed the world.

Anyway...@pastoralan: no worries me old mucka.
Hirsute (161 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
@robinhood: WOW! You've read every book ever written?
Hirsute (161 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
oops, replying to something on page 7
fiedler (1293 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
Hey Hirsute, you finding this thread any help?
fiedler (1293 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
@Putin, very true, and the christians were almost as bad. Not a single roman song survived the dark ages - tragedy. I'll bet there was some really colourful lyrics that would horrify the puritans.

Anyway, I'll add the essays of Michel Montaigne.
hellalt (70 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
L' Entranger (Alber Camus)
On the Road (Jack Kerouac)
Fight Club (Chuck Palahniuk)
Naked Lunch (William Burroughs)
Porno (Irvine Welsh)
The Ego and it's Own (Max Stirner)
Thus Spoke Zarathustra (Friedrick Nietzsche)
Atrocity Exhibition (James Ballard)
Neurmancer (William Gibson)

random order
Hirsute (161 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
@fiedler: it was much more helpful in the first few pages. It's okay though - a good literature debate isn't a bad thing.
I'm beginning to think the whole concept behind the list was flawed to begin with. I think I may need to scrap it and start from scratch. Instead of best books of all time it should have been favourite books. I may start a new thread for that eventually
Dharmaton (2398 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
@Hellalt - Zarathrustra - Yes!
@mcbry - the linux book is That Good!?...

I have a thing for : http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/FrameBase?content=/servlet/ListingDetails%3Fshowpic=1%26stockphoto=1%26showpicurl=http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51FUqnRAcTL.jpg

LOL.
iMurk789 (100 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
i loved 1984, but i definitely wouldnt call it the best book ever
mcbry (439 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
@ Dharmaton, I think so, but I can't really compare it with anything. The author is a friend of mine and it's sitting on my desk. The suggestion was made tongue and cheek. Also, it's in Spanish, but you might be able to find some pirate translations on internet.
purpleriot (574 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
@hellalt Good shout on Neuromancer. I used it for an essay at school.


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Draugnar (0 DX)
05 Dec 10 UTC
World of Warcraft - Cataclysm drops Tuesday morning.
While I will continue playing games,my forum participation will be dwindling. Send a PM if you need me.
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deathpod (102 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
Mod request. Is this the right place?
Sorry if this is the wrong place.
Game Id # 4098. Looking for an unpause hopefully. One of our players has been AWOL for 13 days and we would like to just have the game unpaused and let him slide into civil disorder so we can finish.
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Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
Greek gods and goddesses
Hi all I was wondering if you had any clip art of this nature. No nudity. To be used in a game I'm developing for a 6th grade class. Pleas post a link if you have any.
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patizcool (100 D)
06 Dec 10 UTC
wta gunboat
Come and join. We got 2, starting in 25 minutes, let's go people

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=43500
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
28 Nov 10 UTC
Wikileaks
With wikileaks apparently on the verge of another major release of classified information, it felt about time the webDip community discussed the issue:
Should wikileaks publish sensitive information they are given, and should it be censored?
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The Lord Duke (3898 D)
05 Dec 10 UTC
Passwords
How do you find out a password if you would like to join a game?
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Maniac (184 D(B))
05 Dec 10 UTC
Come play with me
gameID=43452 please join if you can retreat and build quickly to avoid dragging a game on unnecessarily
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ormi (100 D)
04 Dec 10 UTC
fast game start soon check in!!!
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=43360
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
01 Dec 10 UTC
Has America Become the Evil Empire?
Well, has it?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
01 Dec 10 UTC
Should I have a problem with this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_village

With regard the 'do you guys find this offensive thread' i came across this idea....
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Malleus (2719 D)
03 Dec 10 UTC
Sitter etiquette
I need to get a sitter, but I've never gotten one before. What's the etiquette on that? I was thinking of going through old games and finding people that I got along well with. Is that the best bet for finding someone?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
03 Dec 10 UTC
Happy Holidays! (And WHat I DON'T Like To See...)
Happy Channukah! (a day late...) ;) And Christmas to come...but controversy--DOES Santa Claus really exist? Oh, and then there's the matter of idiots who, instead of having a good, civil conversation (like we often have here) just decide to do the real-world equivalent of shout and troll... http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20101202/ts_yblog_thelookout/atheists-slick-ad-campaigns-sometimes-meet-with-resistance So let's talk here...what do you think?
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JetJaguar (820 D)
02 Dec 10 UTC
Russia 2018, Qatar 2022
Anyone else have their opinion of FIFA's leadership sink to never before imagined lows today?
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Dan Wang (1194 D)
03 Dec 10 UTC
What are public-messaging-only games like?
In your experience, do players in public-messaging-only games choose to ally and coordinate in full view of the other players, or is it more like a gunboat game but with the ability to negotiate draws amongst opposing factions, etc? Or somewhere in between?
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airborne (154 D)
04 Dec 10 UTC
Oh Civ how lowly you have fallen!
Civ V may be one of the biggest disappointment in my gaming career. No more religions! No more multible leaders! No more +/- numbers dip-o! No stable gameplay! No more crazy number of civs! On and on...and I thought Black Ops needs a couple patches, gees
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Indybroughton (3407 D(G))
03 Dec 10 UTC
GhostRatings - Take the Pledge...
...take the challenge.

I challenge every one of the top 100, as well as any player who moves up 20 spots or more, to pledge to contribute $5 via PayPal to this website. Sign your name to this thread to pledge! I'll start: INDYBROUGHTON
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pathannarris (599 D)
04 Dec 10 UTC
World Game needs players
Anyone interested in playing a semi slow world game? We need two more players in the next 15 minutes. It is called:

Conquer the World!
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
02 Dec 10 UTC
car free cities?
see sometimes i'm a little crazy...

This got me thinking : http://www.oecd.org/document/46/0,3343,en_21571361_44315115_46566894_1_1_1_1,00.html
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jonK99 (133 D)
04 Dec 10 UTC
Who is up for a 5 min. game?
Who is up for a 5 min. game?
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trip (696 D(B))
03 Dec 10 UTC
Is there a Mod in the house?
Help
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superchunk (4890 D)
02 Dec 10 UTC
Various script errors in game recently causing inability to set full moves.
Any idea what is causing this as its preventing the setting of convoys, at least for me?
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cannonfodder5 (100 D)
01 Dec 10 UTC
North Sea action
Which power has the longest staying power (pardon the repetition) in the North Sea corridor? Does France see itself in the mix?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
02 Dec 10 UTC
Rank the diplo territories in order of importance.
You get one vote per post, and one post per page.
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