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philcore (317 D(S))
21 Dec 12 UTC
Why did this fail?
I had MAO to Spain SC with Gas support. Turkey had West Med to Spain with no support. no one broke Gas support. MAO should have taken Spain SC!
gameID=106225
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HITLER69 (0 DX)
21 Dec 12 UTC
IT IS UPON US!
EVERYONE! PREPARE YOUR KOOL-AID! IT IS THE END! REPENT YOUR SINS!
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
16 Dec 12 UTC
DISCUSS GUN CONTROL LAWS HERE
I made this thread so that you people will stop discussing it on threads that are supposed to honor the victims of a tragedy.
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Ienpw_III (117 D)
21 Dec 12 UTC
Player needed: Germany (starting positions)
We've had a player banned for multi-accounting. Game's just started. If you want a chance to play Germany, here it is: gameID=106481
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
21 Dec 12 UTC
A chance to prove your Diplomatic genius
We need another replacement Argentina after the previous two Argentinas have both been banned. The position appears weak but has great potential if you play your cards right:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=103915
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dubmdell (556 D)
21 Dec 12 UTC
Complementary Mod/Admin Thread
Use this opportunity to say something in addition to what you've already said to the mod/admin team.
If you don't have anything befitting to say, don't say anything at all.
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Ienpw_III (117 D)
19 Dec 12 UTC
Christmas Special: Full press classic, 40 point WTA, 3 day phases
Slow phases because I assume many of us will be somewhat busy for the next while.

gameID=106481
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philcore (317 D(S))
21 Dec 12 UTC
Good Germany position open due to ban
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
20 Dec 12 UTC
Odd Question
Generally to the mod/admin .. is there any specific reason other than general humility that there is no public record of banned players? Whenever I'm looking for games to join through a CD, some of the best games are from banned players, and if there were a way to find a newly banned player without hearing about it or seeing it would probably salvage a lot of wrecked games.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
21 Dec 12 UTC
All you need is love......
...... all you need is love, love ....... love is all you need :-)
Happy Xmas to all WebDippers (even you metas and multis)
Keep it real, keep it clean, buckle up and enjoy the ride into 2013 !!
p.s the world didn't end, that's all good news !!
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
15 Dec 12 UTC
Diplomacy World Cup 2013 !
*2013*2013* 2013 http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/diplomacy-world-cup *2013*2013*2013*2013*2013*2013*2013*2013*2013*2013*
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hecks (164 D)
21 Dec 12 UTC
Moderator attention
Could a moderator please check out this game? gameID=106507
Particularly userID=48895

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Thucydides (864 D(B))
20 Dec 12 UTC
Friends
Tell us about your best friends, what you and your friends are like. Just talk about friendship here.
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dubmdell (556 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
Enough trivial topics, time for serious talk
In LotR: Fellowship, at the Counsel of Elrond, Frodo takes the responsibility of bearing the Ring. In rewatching the film this past weekend, I got the distinct impression this may have been due to the Ring already "poisoning" Frodo a little bit so that he was the Ring's choice of bearer. When I checked the book, it doesn't read like that explicitly, but I think that interpretation may still exist. Thoughts?
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Strauss (758 D)
21 Dec 12 UTC
Fast Europe-20
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=106735
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
19 Dec 12 UTC
Russia's Gone Hardcore on us
Legislation has been forwarded to ban all adoptions to the United States from Russia (around 45,000 in the last 10 years, second only to China).
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
19 Dec 12 UTC
Hi
I'm on this forum during a final. Any advice?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
18 Dec 12 UTC
Lunch Lady GOT FIRED FOR WHAT???!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/lunch-lady-fired-giving-free-lunch-low-income-182137604.html

That.
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
19 Dec 12 UTC
EoG: Gunboating-6
Good game guys. I could have kept going I think, as I was about to take Liverpool and Brest, but I felt like we all deserved our draw...
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TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
19 Dec 12 UTC
Love story in 22 photos
http://www.buzzfeed.com/txblacklabel/true-love-in-pictures-only-28m7

I thought this was pretty cool.
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Stressedlines (1559 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
why is this Liberal not under arrest yet?
http://www.examiner.com/article/texas-democratic-party-leader-blogger-calls-for-shooting-nra-members
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Demos (496 D)
19 Dec 12 UTC
Epic World Game?
Hey, I tried to get an epic world game together called: gameID=106273. I've only got three guys up for it. I was wondering either if you'd like to join that game or could give me suggestions of a new game I could make that you would be happy to join. Bear in mind it has to be world and with a pot size of a minimum of 1700 D, ppsc, phase length of at least one day, to start after Christmas. Besides that I'm not bothered. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated. This could be really epic.
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Celticfox (100 D(B))
19 Dec 12 UTC
Holiday Favorite.. food
Given that this is season is known for the great quantities of food enjoyed.. what is Webdips favorite holiday treats?


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redhouse1938 (429 D)
19 Dec 12 UTC
European Patent
http://www.economist.com/news/business/21568436-after-40-years-trying-europe-has-unified-patent-system-sort-yes-ja-oui-no-no
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krellin (80 DX)
18 Dec 12 UTC
All The Words Are Said...
The emotion, predictably, as it inevitably must, has drained. Tears, where shed, have long since dried up, save for the occasional random drop. The absolute resolve that we must do something *NOW*...displaced once again by the mundane...
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jmbostwick (2308 D)
19 Dec 12 UTC
Stupid rules question
Austria has a fleet in Greece and a fleet in the Aegean, and uses Greece s. Aegean -> Ionian. Italy has a fleet in the Ionian, and an army in Naples, and uses Ionian to convoy Naples -> Greece. What's the end result of this set of moves?
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NigelFarage (567 D)
19 Dec 12 UTC
The End Of The World Diplomacy IX (LIVE) (VDIP)
Details inside
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To Redhouse: The case for Italy as a
You challenged me/I challenged myself to make as strong of a case for Italy as a "non-country" as you did for belgium here: http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=957318#957318 (not that I feel your case was overly convincing friend :P)
I would have liked to have been given more time but couldn't have you thinking I conceded the argument so here is a basic case that I would say is on a similar level to the one you constructed:
1. Country has stood the test of time
-Fail. Belgium was invaded during *both* world wars, the first time only 75 years after its birth.
-Fail. Italy was only established in 1861 (practically a bit later), was invaded during *both* world wars, the first time not even 60 years after its birth. Ooo and after the ‘country’ was established some of the nationalists even remarked they needed to now create an Italian identity

2. Country does not have a sizeable important area wanting independence/autonomy
-Fail. The Veneto region has repeatedly demonstrated in a variety of ways a desire for this. Also, sort of connected to this, there is the venetian language many people speak, reaffirming Italy as an amalgamation of different ‘countries’. I’ll just add here the many different dialects of Italian spoken in different regions as well...

3. Country has a strong historic and cultural foundation
-Fail. Italy was long divided into numerous states, with a huge variation in culture, history, traditions and customs reflecting this history of several different states.

4. Country’s inhabitants are not frequently divided by region and see the greater picture of the nation.
-Fail. In a different way to the culture point above, there is frequently noted to be a division between Sardinians, Sicilians, and those of north or central Italy.

5. Country has a clear geographically isolated position.
-Fail. If you look at countries like the UK, Ireland, France, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, you can clearly see the way the separation between land and seas, mountain ranges etc. naturally define certain areas. Not Belgium. It's simply one of the low countries.
-Fail. Campione d’Italia, I mean talk about failure to be defined... and the land disputes Italy has with France and Austria paint us a picture of a country that has yet to be properly defined, with finishing touches required...

Of course, in my opinion, this should not convince you that Italy is a “non-country”, but I do not see how this argument is significantly weaker than the argument you presented for Belgium, looking at the push for independence/autonomy (which exists to a lesser extent out of the Veneto region as well), and the cultural differences and separation present due to the historically different states present (in this relatively new WESTERN EUROPEAN COUNTRY) as particularly potent.
ghug (5068 D(B))
17 Dec 12 UTC
I can make a similar argument for the US...
1. Country has stood the test of time.
Fail. America is relatively short-lived compared to other historical nations of similar power.
2. Country does not have a sizeable important area wanting independence/autonomy
Fail. America had a civil war when the Confederacy tried to secede. People are constantly petitioning for the removal of their states from the nation because they are unhappy with current national politics.
3. Country has a strong historic and cultural foundation.
Fail. America consists predominantly of Europeans from various cultures being transplanted suddenly to the new world. There is no strong, unifying foundation.
4. Country’s inhabitants are not frequently divided by region and see the greater picture of the nation.
There is a clear division between different parts of the country (i.e. the South, New England, the West Coast, the Midwest).
5. Country has a clear geographically isolated position.
America's borders were arbitrarily decided with Mexico and Canada and disputed for quite a long time.

I don't think these are very good signifiers of a "non-country."
My point in the link ghug was that you couldn't say this/things like this makes a "non country", and if so you could argue any country as a "non-country", redhouse used the exact same 1st and 5th point, 2 others were on language, and one was on the political conversation not focusing on typical left vs right distribution of goods
ghug (5068 D(B))
17 Dec 12 UTC
Exactly, I'm giving another example to support your claims.
Ah, well thank you ghug, I'm glad you agree :)
redhouse1938 (429 D)
17 Dec 12 UTC
You're griping SocDis.

"2. Country does not have a sizeable important area wanting independence/autonomy"
?
The Northern provinces of the Netherlands have a movement to separate themselves from the rest to keep the natural gas revenues. That does not make us, in the slightest, a non-country. The Scottish will be voting for independence soon. Doesn't make the UK a non-country.

"Also, sort of connected to this, there is the venetian language many people speak, reaffirming Italy as an amalgamation of different ‘countries’."
The Frisians in the far north have their own language, so - in a certain sense - do the Limburghish in the south east. Doesn't in the slightest make us a non-country.

"3. Country has a strong historic and cultural foundation
-Fail. Italy was long divided into numerous states, with a huge variation in culture, history, traditions and customs reflecting this history of several different states."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Roman_conquest_of_Italy.PNG
The Italian city states have always been confronted with each other, long before unification.

"5. Country has a clear geographically isolated position.
-Fail. If you look at countries like the UK, Ireland, France, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, you can clearly see the way the separation between land and seas, mountain ranges etc. naturally define certain areas. Not Belgium. It's simply one of the low countries.
-Fail. Campione d’Italia, I mean talk about failure to be defined... and the land disputes Italy has with France and Austria paint us a picture of a country that has yet to be properly defined, with finishing touches required..."

Italy is roughly the booth that sticks into the Mediterranean, bordered by the alps in the north. A few boarder disputes hardly change that. China has boarder disputes with pretty much every country next to it, doesn't make it a non-nation thug.

Compare:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Satellite_image_of_Italy_in_March_2003.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EU-Italy.svg

This is a clearly defined geographical area in Europe, no mistake about it, a child would attribute nationhood to it. Not Belgium.

redhouse1938 (429 D)
17 Dec 12 UTC
Many classical nation states have different languages spoken at their peripheries. Nobody would doubt that France is a nation, yet in some parts of northern France some people speak a form of Dutch...ish and in the south west there's Basques. It's normal that countries have transition areas like this. In the south of the US you find more Spanish speakers. Austria has an Italian speaking minority near the Italian boarder. The Spanish have a Catalan speaking community in the NE and a Basque speaking community in the north.

None of them can in all seriousness be referred to as non-countries. Belgium can.
AlexNesta (239 D)
17 Dec 12 UTC
So redhouse, is Holland a non-country?
canada is hundy a non-country based on this.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
17 Dec 12 UTC
http://cdn.worldcupblog.org/netherlands.worldcupblog.org/files/2008/07/oranje2.jpg

Not really :D
Putin33 (111 D)
17 Dec 12 UTC
Italy has an aircraft carrier and lost 600000 in WWI, ergo its a country.
Jamiet99uk (873 D)
17 Dec 12 UTC
Stop saying boarder. It's "border".
Belgium is a country, as much as Italy is, but I'll respond seriously now anyway, if we accept that the Veneto region has a case to be it's own country than yes Italy as we know it, much like the UK as we know it because of Scotland (and other areas to a lesser extent), is really an amalgamation of what the country should be and the region that should be given state status. I don't see how the general points are weaker than yours, if anything any weakness shown here goes to show why you can't just say a country is a non-country! And I'm glad that children don't decide who gets nationhood and who doesn't.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
SocDis, we're done here :-)
Maniac (189 D(B))
18 Dec 12 UTC
I thought this article was interesting

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19813284

It explores why a part of Italy wants to break away and annex itself with Germany
Sure thing redhouse :) and very interesting article Maniac, not that I expect them to breakaway though
Putin33 (111 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
Belgium fought harder for their independence in WWII than the Netherlands did. Kinda weird for being a fake country.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
19 Dec 12 UTC
Mmmmm.... Nnnnnnnope not taking the bate :D
redhouse1938 (429 D)
19 Dec 12 UTC
*bait
DANG


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Strauss (758 D)
19 Dec 12 UTC
Fast Europe-18 (last try)
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=106600
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King Atom (100 D)
17 Dec 12 UTC
A Game
I would like to play a game.

Who would like to play a game with me?
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