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largeham (149 D)
14 Nov 12 UTC
Unity of Command
I haven't bought the game yet, but looking at all the stuff around and the demo, this game looks damned fun. Anyone else play it?
http://unityofcommand.net/
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Jamiet99uk (873 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
The "The "The "Prohibition Didn't Work" Myth" Myth" Myth.
It's 7:45pm, GMT, and I hereby dedicate this bottle of Newcastle Brown Ale to Thucy's thread about Putin's thread about the prohibition.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
"august rush", EoG thread
"History is written by the winners."
-Winston Churchill
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Moondust (195 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
Noob Question: Transporting troops
How does one transport troops across the water? thanks!
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
14 Nov 12 UTC
U.F.O. in Scotland
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-20316258
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
14 Nov 12 UTC
Metagaming
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=104202
It seems to me that in this game Persia and Greece are controlled by the same person/close friends, despite it being a gunboat game they are cooperating... not attacking each other, AT ALL, and supporting holds on each other. It is very suspicious.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
14 Nov 12 UTC
Petraeus & Stevens - the search for the truth
http://www.sott.net/article/253463-Why-did-CIA-director-Petraeus-resign-Why-was-the-US-ambassador-to-Libya-murdered
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
14 Nov 12 UTC
The Mary Plan or the Marcy Plan ..... might be more effective just using Marzipan
http://consumerhealthlifestyle.co.uk/BEAUTY/Wrinkle-Free/?w3source=302&topicID=288616&topicName=RUN+OF+NEWS++%28Text+Plus+Image%29&pubID=0&pubName=Advertising.com+Sponsored+Listings

http://www.consumerlifestylealerts.org/uk-get-rids-of-wrinkles/
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Babar (0 DX)
14 Nov 12 UTC
Live Game Anyone? Need 1 player in 4 min!
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
14 Nov 12 UTC
EoG: Live WTA-GB-84
It's always a pleasure to win against SplitDiplomat.
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Conservative Man (100 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
Hey Invictus MAN UP
and explain what you meant on your last comment in this thread: viewthread=945345#945345

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orathaic (1009 D(B))
11 Nov 12 UTC
The environmentalist myth
... That infinite economic growth is unsustainable. (see inside) this is @fasces based on a comment about john green on the mongols thread.
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butterhead (90 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
Gunboat Gamble EoG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=101390
Do any of my noble opponents have any comments they wish to share? I enjoyed the game and will post comments myself here in a few :)
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BreathOfVega (597 D)
14 Nov 12 UTC
EoG: Live WTA GB-6
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=104169
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King Atom (100 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
So I've Decided to Become a Unitarian Universalist...
Thoughts?
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Sicarius (673 D)
07 Nov 12 UTC
Deviant Art
Was wondering If anyone here had a DA account? Mine is 'Terijian'
I found a few diplo players on DA and was really glad to see their pieces.
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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
13 Nov 12 UTC
2012 Word of the Year is...
GIF! Let's celebrate!
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
13 Nov 12 UTC
The "The "Prohibition Didn't Work" Myth" Myth
It's 8:25 AM, CT, November 13, 2012, and I hereby dedicate an entire bottle of vodka to your thread about how Prohibition worked. Cheers.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Nov 12 UTC
Plant Pot
Just kidding. Exclude "plant" because this thread is about pot.

Yes, I know that I'm probably going to end up muting my own thread at some point out. I've accepted this reality.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Nov 12 UTC
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/13/opinion/osler-marijuana-federal-law/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

I am 16 and live in Indiana, where, in a general sense, most people are against pot use. I have never smoked, though I know plenty of people that have and I've been around them while they are doing it. I've been a proponent of legalization for a long time, though I certainly don't want marijuana to be used as a bridge to legalize other drugs. Without adding my stories since nobody cares, I have seen people on just about everything, and pot is much, much less dangerous than mushrooms, for example. I know this, and I don't want pot to lead to more legalization.

However, I want pot legalized because tobacco is legal and tobacco has been shown to have much more lethal and harmful effects than marijuana use. I am the "screw industry" type when it comes to tobacco - if it's more dangerous than pot, which in the long term it is, then it should be just as illegal as pot is. Otherwise, pot should be legal.

So, if anyone's actually read this far, what do you think? This isn't about whether or not pot is good or not but whether - based on the votes in Colorado and Washington - it should be legalized. If you have anything constructive - i.e not attacking me - please discuss.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 Nov 12 UTC
Don't smoke yet; your brain is still developing.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Nov 12 UTC
I haven't and don't have any intention to do it unless it's legal… my brain isn't developed enough for prison either. From the article:

"In 2010, four out of five of the 1.64 million people arrested for drug violations were accused of possession, and half of those arrests were for carrying what were often very small amounts of marijuana. Those hundreds of thousands of drug cases corresponded with an increase in marijuana use. If federal policy were about problem-solving, Colorado would not pose a dilemma, because prosecuting marijuana cases hasn't solved the problem of marijuana use."
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 Nov 12 UTC
More to your point: I think the tobacco argument is flawed. The proper solution to having one bad thing being legal is not to make more bad things illegal.

With that being said, the amount of time, money, and lives that are spent dealing with pot is pathetic. That is the main reason I support legalization. Tax the shit out of it and make the punishment for breaking the law (such as selling to minors) serious.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
bo_sox,

I just want to say that I believe you very easily told us your age and your state, and I think you should be careful divulging such information online to people you don't know. That is all.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 Nov 12 UTC
Yeah, be careful, bo. Draug lives pretty close to Indiana. You know how he gets around 16 year olds.
Invictus (240 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
"pot is much, much less dangerous than mushrooms"

That's such a dumb, uninformed statement that everything else you have to say about this subject can be safely ignored.
taos (281 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
i used to smoke pot and i grew and sold it ,i am in the opinion that growing your own pot should be legal but not selling.
from my experience it is harmful not so much for your health but it does brain damage,mostly memory loss and changes behavior,also makes you find yourself surrounded only by pot users and distance yourself from not users,users tend to be lazy and not productive and many of them use other drugs and do minor crimes.
tobacco is worst than pot,almost impossible to quit and it kills thousands of people everyday.
all drugs must be ilegal! tobacco is definitely a drug.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Nov 12 UTC
Completely agreed, Abge.

Red, I live in Carmel, go to University High School, class of 2014, and am likely attending Butler University. My dad's name is David and my mom's name is Miriam. They are both self employed. My house is worth somewhere between $370K and $380K. Do a Google search and see if you can find me. Come to my house and I'll beat the living shit out of you. That's what Indiana farm boys and Indianapolis gang boys learn how to do pretty effectively.

In short, I'm not worried about my safety...
redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
bo, it wasn't meant as a threat at all, as most people who know me here know. I was genuinely trying to caution you on the risks of exposing stuff, because you never know what people are going to do. That said, I hope the mods remove this information for your own good. You should definitely tell David and Miriam what I just told you just to learn how they feel about this.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 Nov 12 UTC
We most certainly will not remove it. However, I will caution bo to think twice before going into public office now.
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
13 Nov 12 UTC
Bo-Sox48, was that really your info or did you somehow obtain krellin's true identity and where he lives?
If you know where krellin is, please post the address so that obi and dubmdell can find him to get their bet.
And if obi can't afford to drive there, we'll start a fund for him (at least 20% of which should be reserved for him to get a prostitute who provides free marijuana).
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
I support legalization of marijuana. In my secondhand experience as a police officer, people who are baked out of their minds on pot are still safer to be around than a frat boy who's had one too many shots of booze.

People who are baked laugh a lot, get hungry, and fall asleep. People who are drunk black out and usually make mistakes.

Free up resources from marijuana enforcement and use it to enforce laws against harder drugs. Crack, meth, cocaine, and hallucinogens should be illegal because you are 9 times out of 10 a menace to public safety if you're high on those.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Nov 12 UTC
Yeah, yeah, okay Red… I'm not really worried about it. Naive teenager. We're all the same.

Oddly put, Gun, but completely true.
Mushrooms are more dangerous than pot, agreed. However, both have negligible amounts of danger - you just have less control on mushrooms. They are also more fun.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Nov 12 UTC
Lol… well put Lando. Like they say, if you think that tree over there is talking with you, you've had too much.
HITLER69 (0 DX)
13 Nov 12 UTC
Making drugs illegal doesn't keep people from using them... as observed in prohibition times, when something is made illegal it just drives the market for obtaining and using those drugs. If heroine we made legal tomorrow how many of you would go out and shoot up right away? I don't think anyone would be like FUCK YEAH BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SHIT TO BE LEGAL.

Look no further to why it's illegal than the federal government. They are the ones capitalizing on the drug wars. Heck, they are still fueling the wars to this day and people still act oblivious about it all. Fast and furious, Iran-Contra, opium imports from Afghanistan (which we've been guarding for the past 10 years).

I live in So-Cal and have a MMJ license ... and even as recently as 2 months ago they sent federal agents in to 20-30 clinics in LA county to seize assets and try to shut them down. Even with Colorado and Washington being legal now, I still imagine it being a shit storm for the next 10 years.
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Nov 12 UTC
@abge - Unless bo is a female, nothing to fear. I'm sort of a "nothing dangles below the waist" kind of guy.

@bo - As has been pointing out, saying that you think something else should be illegal because one illegal things is, in your view, less dangerous is not a valid argument. For one, it's just your opinion pot is less dangerous than "tobacco". The long term effects of smoking pot over a lifetime haven't really been studied like they have for cigarettes.

Additionally, tobacco comes in more than cigarette form just as pot can be consumed in many different ways. Many of those tobacco forms have seriously less detrimental effects on the body than cigarettes. Primarily because, even in smoked form (pipes and cigars), the additives and how deeply the smoke is inhaled in a cigarette makes it far more dangerous. Cigarettes have such additives as additional nicotine and chemicals to disguise the fact that they are made from substandard remnant tobacco not of a high enough quality for cigars or pipes or even chew. So you are really comparing cigarettes to pot, not all tobacco.

Now, as to legalization fo pot... I'm like abge. Do it, tax the fuck out of it, and make selling to minors have the kind of teeth alcohol and tobacco have. America could use a new revenue source.
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Nov 12 UTC
Oh, and bo, no one need come to your house or your school or even visit you in person to do you harm. It's called identity theft and could fuck up your chances to get into any school, much less the school of your choice.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Nov 12 UTC
Wish them luck with that Draug. They can try if they are really that desperate.

And yes, I'm comparing cigarettes to pot.. that's the comparison I've seen firsthand. Like you said, it hardly matters, because legalizing pot has economic benefits, and based on the complete disregard for morals in the government in the past 50 years or so when it comes to money, there's no argument around that.
Cigarettes don't change your state of mind, marijuana does. it is apples and oranges.
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Nov 12 UTC
Here is what needs to be done.

A) Legalize and legislate pot. Tax it, restrict it, and put in serious penalties for giving it to minors.
B) Clean up cigarettes. Put manufacturing standards on them that reduce or eliminate poisonous additives and added nicotine.
"Clean up cigarettes. Put manufacturing standards on them that reduce or eliminate poisonous additives and added nicotine. "

good luck
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Nov 12 UTC
I know. But just because it isn't likely to succeed doesn't mean it isn't a worhtwhile thing to push towards.


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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 Nov 12 UTC
Kerbal Space Program
This game. You should play it.
http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/
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Moondust (195 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
Star on Map in World Diplomacy
What do the Stars on the map in World Diplomacy mean? thanks.
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taos (281 D)
11 Nov 12 UTC
“Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed ...
who said that?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Nov 12 UTC
And You Thought...
…That teens were worthless, uncaring, ungrateful assholes.

http://schoolsofthought.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/12/teen-with-cerebral-palsy-crowned-homecoming-king/?hpt=us_c2
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Mapu (362 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
New Call of Duty
It's release day.

My copy's coming today from Amazon. Has anyone tried it yet?
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Moondust (195 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
How to play Gunboat
I looked at the Gunboat map. How do you play it? Thanks!
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dubmdell (556 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
Dedicated tea maker
I'm thinking about purchasing a dedicated tea maker. I have been using the coffee maker to heat up water, but I'm ready to move on to something better. Any brand or particular style recommendations?
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rokakoma (19138 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
The 100.000th webdip game - EoG
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Nov 12 UTC
Hey bo_sox, MAN UP
You're all horrible people. Now pay me, Krellin. You too, CM.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
13 Nov 12 UTC
Shantih, Shantih, Shantih...RIP Valerie Eliot, Wife and Editor of T.S. Eliot
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/13/arts/valerie-eliot-wife-and-editor-of-ts-eliot-dies-at-86.html?_r=0
Sad...she led a great life, and did a lot to look after Eliot's legacy and letters after he died in 1965, and 86 is a great, full life...but it's still sad to know such a long-standing link to the greatest poet and critic in the English language of the last century (and a hero of mine nearly on par with Shakespeare) is gone.
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cspieker (18223 D)
09 Nov 12 UTC
Things that sound so good, that you ignore facts in opposition
The election threads about the Repubs convincing themselves that Romney would win even though the numbers were against them got me thinking of this. List stuff that people love to spout and believe because it makes them feel good about their choices.
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