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jpchewy01 (100 D)
24 Sep 08 UTC
real strategists wanted
please join my game, real strategists wanted, take all the time you wa
it was cut off after that
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DingleberryJones (4469 D(B))
23 Sep 08 UTC
New Winner Take All game for newbies - 40 point bet
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5807

Game titled Dangle My Cherry
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MickFlanagen (100 D)
23 Sep 08 UTC
looking for a player
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5811
Points-per-supply-center
24 hours/phase: Normal pace
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Zarathustra (3672 D)
23 Sep 08 UTC
Question on Winnings for Points Per Supply Center
There is a point of contention between another player and I that I am seeking to resolve. He says that when winning a PPSC game (18+ SC) you only get the 18 SC amount of points. I claim that you get the proportion of points equal to the number of centers claimed. Who is right?
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hermanobrown (925 D)
23 Sep 08 UTC
No turn on weekend
I create a game to play just only during the week. I suggest that everybody finallize theirs orders quicly during the week and let weekend for rest
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david707 (100 D)
23 Sep 08 UTC
Join "The war of the everest"
5 points to join (mainly for new players)
36 hour turns
points per supply centre
have fun!
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Masterker (100 D)
23 Sep 08 UTC
New game
Have set up a game called war of the everest please join will start in 36 hours from when this is sent out.
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EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
23 Sep 08 UTC
EOG: New Game Three Way draw G17 F7 T10
I took this game over in the Winter of 1901 when Germany had not moved for two complete seasons. The French had an army in Belgium the English a fleet in Holland,
Russia had 7 with Norway,Sweden, Rumania and had built a fleet in the north coast,
Italy had screwed up his orders and had not gotten any builds while Austria and Turkey were intermingled diplomatically and about to make a change in direction.
My goal in the game was to see if I could make something of this wild situation and at the same time learn something about the site.
In 02 I was able to talk the English out of Holland as he started on his game long war with England with his buddy in Italy continuing in the Jihad. Then Russia and Turkey made amends and turned on Austria.
At this point I was trying to decide which way to go when I received a letter from the Russians telling me 'I want to move my tanks to Prussia and Silesia to get them into action." This blew my mind and decided for me that I would have to stay with France and concentrate on the Russians. I wrote to the Russians that this would mean war. That move I went to Sweden and Silesia as a precaution and Russia went to Prussia 'as a mistake'. My orders worked. From there it was a tactical battle and race against time against the Russians with them losing in the north and in the center.
Then with the Russians down to 5 and Germany at 10 or so he dropped. How rude.
The next 3 centers were rather easy and I was able to get an army in Armenia to really shake up the Turks. The Turks previous position was that either he or I were going to die in the game, and as I was allied with the French who was having a hard time with the Italians and the English, I had a choice of going for a very easy win that was not worth it or trying to make a point on how to end games in a somewhat social manner.
So I convinced the Turks to take a three draw with France and I. Then the weirdness happened. England agreed to be out of the draw. Then the weirdness happened when Italy with two units *Portugal and Venice, declared that he was against the draw because he wanted "my one point". Anti social behavior could not be rewarded, so the game was delayed a game year and I had to eliminate both England and ITaly so that there were only three of us.
One of the things this points out is the unfortunate situation in which under these house rules it appears that you cannot have a draw that does not include all survivors.
This translates out as a Kill Policy for most small countries since you cannot end a game without their vote. This may have been the intention in the original rules but those rules were written with a face to face game and social limits in mind, not the endless play that postal or email allows. So unfortunately England had to die along with Italy who was being just a kid looking at the scoring system herein.
Along the way in the game, Austria got knocked down to one center and I was content to leave him in the game at that (before the Kill nature of the ending a game became apparent) but then he dropped and was replaced by another player for reasons unknown and wound up dead in a squeeze play between Turkey and Germany.

How's that for an end of game statement?
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Blackheath Wanderer (0 DX)
17 Sep 08 UTC
Iraq: A legal war. Discuss
Under the terms of the ceasefire at the end of the first Gulf War, the Iraqi regime was given 12 months to prove that it had disarmed itself of WMD.

12 years later it had not and therefore the recommencement of the ground assault was perfectly valid as Iraq was in breach of the UN brokered ceasefire resolution.

Thoughts?
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ninja_trout (119 D)
23 Sep 08 UTC
New Game, get it while its hot!
New game called Lets get it on! Bet is only 25 and 20 hour/phase. All welcome!!!
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Sicarius (673 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
Capitalism
being very anti-capitalist, I can't see why anyone could think thats it's a good system. why do you think it is
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Pareno (108 D)
22 Sep 08 UTC
TOTAL GLOBAL SOCIO-ECONOMIC COLLAPSE
Whoa.

Yup, that’s what the Secretary of the Treasury of the United States of America said we were ONE day away from on Friday, 19SEP08.

<B><I>That would be a bad thing, M-kay?</I></B>

Comments? Causes?

IMHO, the main cause is the $10 trillion national debt of the United States of America. What do you think?
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EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
22 Sep 08 UTC
DRAW REQUEST game A3 Germany-France-Turkey
The game is requested to be a draw G 17/F7/T 10
Please await the posting by the other two and then do what ever it is that is needed.
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WhiteSammy (132 D)
22 Sep 08 UTC
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!
jugglingbeast,

YOU'RE THE 8521st AND NEWEST PERSON TO BECOME A MEMBER ON PHPDIPLOMACY.NET

YOU WIN GAMES FULL OF LYING, BACKSTABBING, AND SELF-CENTERED EGOTISTICAL LOONIES WHO WANT TO USE YOU TO FURTHER THEIR DIPLOMACY CAREER.
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Sicarius (673 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
essay on agriculture and the leisure time of primitive culture
now that I think of it, I challenge someone to find evidence that 'primitives' DONT have more leisure time than us. It's a pretty widly accepted fact, so where your proof?

anyway this essay is for um... doc or something
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Spell of Wheels (4896 D)
22 Sep 08 UTC
Rules Question Re: Movement
SETUP: 2 armies of a nations surround an empty SC (or any empty space) and one of those 2 armies is adjacent to an army of a different nation who can also enter the empty territory , such as Russia has armies in GAL and BOH-- Austria has an army in BUD. VIE is open.
The assumption is that BUD will move to VIE. Can GAL attack BUD and move BOH to VIE unimpeded? Or is a support move required? The question is asked because a 3rd nation wants BUD to be attacked in the event that BUD does not go to VIE. Thanks in advance.
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Polar Bear (1038 D)
20 Sep 08 UTC
The leagues - what a disappointment
If anyone wants to join the leagues I will be dropping out of Group F after this game and you can take my place. The league is a pile of shite. Everyone is trying so hard to win, it's like the thing is some kind of e-peen. Like you're going to go and tell your wife or your friends at work that you won some virtual text based competition and they're gonna go "Gee Bobby, you finally did something with your life, way to go!"

Get a life guys, it's 5 points at stake.

We're only a few turns in and not a single person has kept their word or offered any kind of help. When I offer help it's treated as some kind of trick or trap. If I ask for information I am treated like Satan. Everyone is super paranoid. All of the above I can handle; what I won't tolerate though is people being RUDE.

Here's a typical interaction:

Me: "Hey would you like support into <territory>.....?"

Other Player: "Screw you if you think you're going to trick me into leaving you a opening. Your evil plan is obvious... do you think I am stupid? You can go to hell!"

Me: "If I attack <territory> and you attack <territory> then we both help each other. Can you confirm that you will do this?"

Other player: "Just you do you think you are to make such demands! You have no right! Do you think I am stupid? I don't have to do ANYTHING you say. Go to hell!"

I come onto the internet for fun and I play Diplomacy for the social contact. Yes it's also about winning and losing but the league seems to have extinguished anything pleasant or social about the game.

I don't really have the personal time to devote to the Diplomacy anyway, but when I come to the PC and find a inbox full of hate, it makes me question my priorities.

So, if you want to spend your virtual online time with a bunch of arrogant, over-competitive, paranoid, hateful, duplicitous scumbags, join the leagues.

Or maybe it's just my league and the others are different.
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Please draw this game
please draw this:
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5416

france will comply
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texasdeluxe (516 D(B))
22 Sep 08 UTC
Anyone want to take over Germany before we start
Pre game still and Germany is CD! http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5760
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Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
DRAW REQUEST for "PRAGUE"
Hello Kestas,

please, can you draw the game http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5083.

The other players will confim shortly.
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sean (3490 D(B))
21 Sep 08 UTC
League Links
Ok, so thats bad news about the PB vs maple leaf squabble but apart from that we are all happy right? i know its bad form to display private chats and all but i would like a easy link to see how we are all going in our leagues.
here is group A
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5660
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Sicarius (673 D)
22 Sep 08 UTC
speed game
anyone interested in starting a speed game, now
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DukeAtreides (100 D)
20 Sep 08 UTC
Opening chat records post-game
Is there a particular reason that after a game has ended the chat records aren't opened to the general public? I think it would give an interesting context to the map.
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CirclMastr (227 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
Draw Request for LUELinks II
Please draw this game: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5328

The other players will confirm, and I am England confirming for myself. Thanks.
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MarekP (12864 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
Draw Request - "Blindfold"
Kestas, please, draw the game ID=5123 (Blindfold) as soon as all other players (England and Turkey) express their agreement. Thank you!
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Sicarius (673 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
Denver/Boulder
does anyone here, live... well here I guess
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Ursa (1617 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
I said, don't!!
I did not start this game but we're still looking for four players. If you're up for the challenge, please join 'Don't push the red button *push*' at http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5769

Bet = 25, not too high, not too low. Everyone welcome!
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Tucobenedicto (100 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
College Process
Any seniors on phpDip? How's the process treating you guys?
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DukeAtreides (100 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
Yeah. But being a pretentious prick isn't necessarily bad. My junior and senior English teacher was terribly pretentious, but great at what he did.
Sicarius (673 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
yeah I got arrested too.

this is a video of the march I was in when I got arrested. my friend in ohio said he seen me in this video twice but I havnt seen me so idk

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1630487466?bctid=1774291302

thats thursday, basically just the cops kicking the shit out of a student march

on monday black bloc owned the streets
Chrispminis (916 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
Oh Sicarius... the vast majority of people will never find themselves in a survival situation where they find themselves wishing they hadn't studied psychology but rather how to start a fire. And it most certainly does prepare you for a "the real world". I would argue that education is pretty much conditioning our youth to become productive cogs in our society. Greatness doesn't come because you have a master's degree, but education helps the average person live a better life.

Higher education certainly does not exclude the possibility of learning survival skills... If some sort of massive disaster destroyed civilization, it would be the survivalists who can make huts of trees and crap, but it will be the academics who pull you back out of the stone age with their vast expertise.

Would you claim to have survival skills? Perhaps you can survive in the mild forests of southern United States, but I doubt you could survive for very long in harsher climates, or in whatever conditions cause the very downfall of civilization. Of course, I have no way of proving this... but I find that most people who think they have survival skills really just know how to make a fire and skin a dead animal... and lack navigational and toolmaking skills.
Sicarius (673 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
my survival skills arnt bad. I'm always learnign though so thats good. I'm most capable in the great lakes area of wilderness, but I can do ok in other places.
my big weak spot right now is the desert but in a few weeks I"m going to black mesa (on the navajo indian reservation) and I'll learn alot there.

again, I'm not saying education is meaningless because it doesnt give you wilderness survival skills
Archonix (246 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
If some sort of massive disaster destroyed civilization, it would be us diplomacy players who would survive. We would be the people able to lie, cheat and steal all of the scarce resources. Education and Survival training mean shit next to that.
Centurian (3257 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
But I live in a city and make money working like an honest member of society so I don't need to know how to survive in the desert do I?
Sicarius (673 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
it's not that you will ever NEED to, you probably will not, I just think it's a principle. I mean as a species we're domesticated, we're basically house cats with thumbs
Centurian (3257 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
Ok, your right, I probably will not. So as a "house-cat" I will be contributing to society with my education won't I?
Sicarius (673 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
sure, a society of pets in cages. eventually there will be no one to feed you, and you wont be able to get out of your cage, because most dont even know they're in one
Centurian (3257 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
What? Why won't anyone feed me? Demand for food is inelastic so it will always be produced. As I'm educated enough to fit into our system I'll be able to make enough to trade for it. Thus feeding me. I don't see it as much of a cage apart from one of moral responsibility.
Sicarius (673 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
haha it's funny that we live in a society that is so horrible, the only way to make people perpetuate it is to put food under lock and key.

you realize that all the worlds problems are coming to a head relatively soon
Centurian (3257 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
1) Thats a very broad meaningless statement you just put out there. All the worlds problems? Really?
2) Food isn't under lock in key. If I wanted to grow food I could, noone is stopping me. However, I would rather do other things, and yet I'm still fed. I celebrate such a society.
Chrispminis (916 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
Sicarius, you can't argue via flawed analogies... We're not in a cage so much as we are simply socially dependant on each other to fulfil different roles. To know that I cannot live without my fellow humans does not cage me, it empowers my sense of community.

It's not that we can't produce food if we want to... it's that without civilization, you couldn't get away with not producing food even if you did want to. Your primitive anarchists are the ones that are caged.
Sicarius (673 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
without civilization, you couldn't get away with not producing food even if you did want to

oh yeah ok that makes sense. because every society has been agricultural.

anyway, you're not seriously about to tell me that in this global culture, where everything runs on how well you can exploit your fellow human being, or nature in general, you have a strong sense of community?
Invictus (240 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
This thread gotten a little off point. I'm at the University of Illinois as a freshman. Pretty good so far.

I-L-L!

Anybody?
Centurian (3257 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
Haha it has. I'm at Queen's University in Canada
Sicarius (673 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
CU has an awesome library.

and not to be a pig or anything, but a really silly amount of very beautiful girls.
the girls here are so hot, even the ugly girls are hot.
off topic again...
DrOct (219 D(B))
19 Sep 08 UTC
@Chrispminis

"It's not that we can't produce food if we want to... it's that without civilization, you couldn't get away with not producing food even if you did want to."

A very very strong point.
Sicarius (673 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
just throwing this out there, peopel living in a 'primitive' society
have the most leisure time of anyone in history.
Chrispminis (916 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
Sicarius, that certainly isn't the case for all of us who enjoy our work. And civilization definitely gives you more choice in terms of what you can do for a living.
Centurian (3257 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
Sicarius you are completely wrong about te leisure time comment. The reason the society is primitive is because after doing enough to subsist there was no extra time to do other things. IE no leisure time at all. Once things became more efficient people got leisure time and were able to branch out.
Sicarius (673 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
that would be a myth that great mother culture made you believe.
do some anthropology research. I'm not going to reccomend anything because I'm sure if I did it would be biased. go do the research so you can prove yourself wrong
DrOct (219 D(B))
19 Sep 08 UTC
@Sicarius I have studied some anthropology, and nothing I've read has led me to believe that hunter-gatherer societies, or early agrarian societies had more leisure time than many do now. I HAVE read some research that implies that hunter-gatherers were nutritionally better off than early agrarian cultures, but not that they had more leisure time than e do now.

I'm happy to give a fair shake to anything you suggest I read, but without any nudge in the right direction, I'm not sure I'm going to find what you're talking about.
Sicarius (673 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
alright, I'll tell my frind in ohio to dig through my massive library for some titles and stuff.

just so you know though, I'm sure whatever I put on here everyone will blast for being very biased. but you'll see it's not.
I'll post when I get it
Tucobenedicto (100 D)
20 Sep 08 UTC
Yo Centurian,

How's Queen's? I'm from the states and I'm pretty interested in it. I love America's hat!
Chrispminis (916 D)
20 Sep 08 UTC
Tuco, McGill is where you want to be! =D

Queen's is great though, I have a few friends there.

But seriously... Montreal! 18 year old drinking age! Urban smash of North American and European cultures! McGill's excellent academic reputation!
Thucydides (864 D(B))
21 Sep 08 UTC
Yeah I'm a senior... I guess I should start really hammering out some apps.... but I really don't want to. I may do it after I take the SAT on Oct 4. Ugh. Where are you applying Tuco? I'm looking at USC, NYU, GWU, UCLA, and others lol.


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bc2000 (990 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
Improvement?
Dear Kestas
I noticed you have paginated the Games tabs, but now I have a little issue while searching for something or someone there.

Before I used the Find tool of the browser, but that works only on the current page.

I know is a minimal topic, but I had no problem with the previous 1-page tabs and just was wondering if this change really is useful and what the majority of users prefers.

Thanks.
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ldrut (674 D)
20 Sep 08 UTC
No CDs Allowed - 101 Pts to join, 36 hours
So can I please have a game with fewer than 5 CD's and where everyone at least finishes 1901?
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