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jpchewy01 (100 D)
24 Sep 08 UTC
real strategists wanted
please join my game, real strategists wanted, take all the time you wa
it was cut off after that
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DingleberryJones (4469 D(B))
23 Sep 08 UTC
New Winner Take All game for newbies - 40 point bet
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5807

Game titled Dangle My Cherry
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MickFlanagen (100 D)
23 Sep 08 UTC
looking for a player
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5811
Points-per-supply-center
24 hours/phase: Normal pace
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Zarathustra (3672 D)
23 Sep 08 UTC
Question on Winnings for Points Per Supply Center
There is a point of contention between another player and I that I am seeking to resolve. He says that when winning a PPSC game (18+ SC) you only get the 18 SC amount of points. I claim that you get the proportion of points equal to the number of centers claimed. Who is right?
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hermanobrown (925 D)
23 Sep 08 UTC
No turn on weekend
I create a game to play just only during the week. I suggest that everybody finallize theirs orders quicly during the week and let weekend for rest
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david707 (100 D)
23 Sep 08 UTC
Join "The war of the everest"
5 points to join (mainly for new players)
36 hour turns
points per supply centre
have fun!
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Masterker (100 D)
23 Sep 08 UTC
New game
Have set up a game called war of the everest please join will start in 36 hours from when this is sent out.
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EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
23 Sep 08 UTC
EOG: New Game Three Way draw G17 F7 T10
I took this game over in the Winter of 1901 when Germany had not moved for two complete seasons. The French had an army in Belgium the English a fleet in Holland,
Russia had 7 with Norway,Sweden, Rumania and had built a fleet in the north coast,
Italy had screwed up his orders and had not gotten any builds while Austria and Turkey were intermingled diplomatically and about to make a change in direction.
My goal in the game was to see if I could make something of this wild situation and at the same time learn something about the site.
In 02 I was able to talk the English out of Holland as he started on his game long war with England with his buddy in Italy continuing in the Jihad. Then Russia and Turkey made amends and turned on Austria.
At this point I was trying to decide which way to go when I received a letter from the Russians telling me 'I want to move my tanks to Prussia and Silesia to get them into action." This blew my mind and decided for me that I would have to stay with France and concentrate on the Russians. I wrote to the Russians that this would mean war. That move I went to Sweden and Silesia as a precaution and Russia went to Prussia 'as a mistake'. My orders worked. From there it was a tactical battle and race against time against the Russians with them losing in the north and in the center.
Then with the Russians down to 5 and Germany at 10 or so he dropped. How rude.
The next 3 centers were rather easy and I was able to get an army in Armenia to really shake up the Turks. The Turks previous position was that either he or I were going to die in the game, and as I was allied with the French who was having a hard time with the Italians and the English, I had a choice of going for a very easy win that was not worth it or trying to make a point on how to end games in a somewhat social manner.
So I convinced the Turks to take a three draw with France and I. Then the weirdness happened. England agreed to be out of the draw. Then the weirdness happened when Italy with two units *Portugal and Venice, declared that he was against the draw because he wanted "my one point". Anti social behavior could not be rewarded, so the game was delayed a game year and I had to eliminate both England and ITaly so that there were only three of us.
One of the things this points out is the unfortunate situation in which under these house rules it appears that you cannot have a draw that does not include all survivors.
This translates out as a Kill Policy for most small countries since you cannot end a game without their vote. This may have been the intention in the original rules but those rules were written with a face to face game and social limits in mind, not the endless play that postal or email allows. So unfortunately England had to die along with Italy who was being just a kid looking at the scoring system herein.
Along the way in the game, Austria got knocked down to one center and I was content to leave him in the game at that (before the Kill nature of the ending a game became apparent) but then he dropped and was replaced by another player for reasons unknown and wound up dead in a squeeze play between Turkey and Germany.

How's that for an end of game statement?
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Blackheath Wanderer (0 DX)
17 Sep 08 UTC
Iraq: A legal war. Discuss
Under the terms of the ceasefire at the end of the first Gulf War, the Iraqi regime was given 12 months to prove that it had disarmed itself of WMD.

12 years later it had not and therefore the recommencement of the ground assault was perfectly valid as Iraq was in breach of the UN brokered ceasefire resolution.

Thoughts?
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sean (3490 D(B))
19 Sep 08 UTC
Mc Cain "trim the populaton"?? are you serious_? how would you like to be a vietnamese villager during that war? your mom raped by foreign soldiers, your dad shot, maybe your little sister burnt alive by naplam but hey it "trims" the poluation.

as for the side benefits of war, well i put that down to human innovation. If you plow billions of taxpayers dollars into military industrial welfare you will of course get results. the space program also does this. If you put serious money into serious research you will get results. i dont think many would argue that only miltary research leads to such benefits.
Darwyn (1601 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
"Besides, war trims the population"
If nothing else, this is callous.

"and has caused numerous medical and technical innovations"
This is unfortunately true. Necessity breeds invention I guess.

But I wonder though if those medical and technical innovations could have developed during peace time? Perhaps that's another thread...which reminds me, we are off-topic once again.

Is the Iraq war illegal?

Apparently, no one can argue that it isn't?
zscheck (2531 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
I think the point that everyone is trying to get at is that whether not or the war is "legal" (although it is impossible to justify a legal war), that there is not a good reason for there to be continued hostility in the middle east. All of this violence and murder that is going on is really starting to piss me off, while our leaders just sit back and watch it all happen. And whats even more disturbing is that America is suppose to be a "democracy"---"of the people"... our leaders (not all of them) act like they are higher up than the standard citizen, therefore their decisions are somehow more important; let alone they for some reason cannot tell the public the plain and simple truth. (I am from America, I do not know of other countries diplomatic policies so I do not want to offend anybody by dragging them in).... Just like McCain (the player) said -"I'm pretty sure every war is sold along with a pack of lies to support it."
Darwyn (1601 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
Good points zscheck :) The broader point I was trying to make was that not even the pro-war crowd can rationalize war as being legal, let alone having a just reason for it.

It is illegal, therefore unjust...
Darwyn (1601 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
Edit: The broader point I was trying to make was that not even the pro-war crowd can rationalize the Iraq war as being legal, let alone having a just reason for it.
kaner406 (356 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
Aren't we missing the point though? in an international arena, what (if any) constitutes law? what force are we arguing towards if we say it is "illegal"? is this simply saying that we accept the existence of a higher power over our nations... if so what is it?
:-P
zscheck (2531 D)
20 Sep 08 UTC
It seems like that matter of a higher power is just trust that people wont attack each other, which of course has not really happened and I believe we never will until people can finally come together and figure out that murder and killing is wrong. And to answer your question about what is legal, apparently it is whoever has the most power that dictates what is "legal" and "illegal".
McCain (100 D)
20 Sep 08 UTC
I'm a pragmatist, not an idealist, although McCain the Senator is much more of an idealist.
Withnail160 (1204 D)
20 Sep 08 UTC
again, Darwyn....I have to pick you up...

"It is illegal, therefore unjust" - this is a leap of faith

In my humble opinion you lose any argument by making this kind of sweeping statement - I lose interest in everything else you say....illegal and unjust are FAR from being the same thing
Thucydides (864 D(B))
21 Sep 08 UTC
Tell you what. If you think the occupation of Iraq is illegal, you go ahead and use whatever means you find necessary to get them out of there. Just call up al-Qaeda, they'd be glad to get you everything you need.
Imperator Dux (603 D(B))
21 Sep 08 UTC
"all the the technology we use today first was conceived with a
warlike purpose,"
How can you honestly believe that all of the technology we use today was conceived with a warlike purpose? Can you honestly think of a warlike use for condoms?
"Can you honestly think of a warlike use for condoms?"

Troop morale.
Sicarius (673 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
durable snickers wrappers

and in case you had to shove secet documents up your ass
Darwyn (1601 D)
22 Sep 08 UTC
"I lose interest in everything else you say"

lol...really? seems you have a habit of being interested enough in telling me how uninterested you are. :) This is the second time you've done this (claim to not be interested yet having enough interest to comment)...what sort of game are you playing here? I can't decide if this is something I should be entertained by or if it is getting tiresome.

"illegal and unjust are FAR from being the same thing"
Agreed...if I was simply comparing the two concepts like you've clearly suggested. But obviously you missed the context...AGAIN! I preceded that comment with one that talked specifically about the Iraq war as it relates to the thread topic! I even edited my comment with an additional post because you had urged me to choose my words more precisely in the other thread!! See!? You helped! :)

Anyway, anyone can claim that an action is just through their own moral prism. But the legality of that action is absolute (ie. it's either legal or it isn't).

The Iraq war started because Saddam was in violation of law, right? So the Iraq war was a result of the US simply enforcing international law! The legality is precisely what makes the Iraq war just.

Therefore, the pro war crowd cannot claim it's justness if it's not even legal? The Iraq war hinged on it's legality. So in this case, you cannot claim it is just without claiming it's legality. It is illegal, therefore unjust.

However, the context of my statement was there for you to see (and you didn't even have to be interested in clicking a link!!)...you chose to ignore it and make a <gasp!> "sweeping statement" about the concepts being different.

So if you would, perhaps you can shed some light on something for me...IF you are so concerned with people using language properly like you claimed before, why are you so bad at policing it and commenting only on MY statements in these threads?

Surely there are many comments on here that qualify for what seems to be violations of what you deem to be language/word abuse (ie sweeping statements). Perhaps you can police those comments as well? At least do me this favor and quit prancing around what you REALLY want to say to me. okay?

Oh wait...perhaps you aren't "interested"? ;)

Now seriously, this IS getting tiresome...good day sir.
Warrior (675 D)
22 Sep 08 UTC
Imperator dux: you can be sure about that. Obviously not everything, but a big part of technology was originally developed for war or commerce. You need a lot of money to research and develop something new. And the ones who give those mountains of money (most of them are big corporations) want their benefits later. Take a look at history and you will see that is very difficult to find science develop without a warlike or commercial purpose.
Warrior (675 D)
22 Sep 08 UTC
And always wars have a commercial purpose, of course.
youradhere (1345 D)
23 Sep 08 UTC
*doesn't read thread*

Illegal, no question about it.
But nothing we can do about that now.
zscheck (2531 D)
23 Sep 08 UTC
Sent from: Hyperactive Jam (300 ) Sent: Sun 04 PM
"Can you honestly think of a warlike use for condoms?"

Troop morale.
Sent from: Sicarius (289 ) Sent: Sun 04 PM
durable snickers wrappers

and in case you had to shove secet documents up your ass

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Did you guys forget about balloon animals? And what about water balloons? You start hitting your opponents with condom water balloons, they are gonna start getting pissed, get mad and careless, and start shooting without aiming... common war tacit used in the War of 1969


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ninja_trout (119 D)
23 Sep 08 UTC
New Game, get it while its hot!
New game called Lets get it on! Bet is only 25 and 20 hour/phase. All welcome!!!
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Sicarius (673 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
Capitalism
being very anti-capitalist, I can't see why anyone could think thats it's a good system. why do you think it is
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Pareno (108 D)
22 Sep 08 UTC
TOTAL GLOBAL SOCIO-ECONOMIC COLLAPSE
Whoa.

Yup, that’s what the Secretary of the Treasury of the United States of America said we were ONE day away from on Friday, 19SEP08.

<B><I>That would be a bad thing, M-kay?</I></B>

Comments? Causes?

IMHO, the main cause is the $10 trillion national debt of the United States of America. What do you think?
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EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
22 Sep 08 UTC
DRAW REQUEST game A3 Germany-France-Turkey
The game is requested to be a draw G 17/F7/T 10
Please await the posting by the other two and then do what ever it is that is needed.
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WhiteSammy (132 D)
22 Sep 08 UTC
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!
jugglingbeast,

YOU'RE THE 8521st AND NEWEST PERSON TO BECOME A MEMBER ON PHPDIPLOMACY.NET

YOU WIN GAMES FULL OF LYING, BACKSTABBING, AND SELF-CENTERED EGOTISTICAL LOONIES WHO WANT TO USE YOU TO FURTHER THEIR DIPLOMACY CAREER.
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Sicarius (673 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
essay on agriculture and the leisure time of primitive culture
now that I think of it, I challenge someone to find evidence that 'primitives' DONT have more leisure time than us. It's a pretty widly accepted fact, so where your proof?

anyway this essay is for um... doc or something
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Spell of Wheels (4896 D)
22 Sep 08 UTC
Rules Question Re: Movement
SETUP: 2 armies of a nations surround an empty SC (or any empty space) and one of those 2 armies is adjacent to an army of a different nation who can also enter the empty territory , such as Russia has armies in GAL and BOH-- Austria has an army in BUD. VIE is open.
The assumption is that BUD will move to VIE. Can GAL attack BUD and move BOH to VIE unimpeded? Or is a support move required? The question is asked because a 3rd nation wants BUD to be attacked in the event that BUD does not go to VIE. Thanks in advance.
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Polar Bear (1038 D)
20 Sep 08 UTC
The leagues - what a disappointment
If anyone wants to join the leagues I will be dropping out of Group F after this game and you can take my place. The league is a pile of shite. Everyone is trying so hard to win, it's like the thing is some kind of e-peen. Like you're going to go and tell your wife or your friends at work that you won some virtual text based competition and they're gonna go "Gee Bobby, you finally did something with your life, way to go!"

Get a life guys, it's 5 points at stake.

We're only a few turns in and not a single person has kept their word or offered any kind of help. When I offer help it's treated as some kind of trick or trap. If I ask for information I am treated like Satan. Everyone is super paranoid. All of the above I can handle; what I won't tolerate though is people being RUDE.

Here's a typical interaction:

Me: "Hey would you like support into <territory>.....?"

Other Player: "Screw you if you think you're going to trick me into leaving you a opening. Your evil plan is obvious... do you think I am stupid? You can go to hell!"

Me: "If I attack <territory> and you attack <territory> then we both help each other. Can you confirm that you will do this?"

Other player: "Just you do you think you are to make such demands! You have no right! Do you think I am stupid? I don't have to do ANYTHING you say. Go to hell!"

I come onto the internet for fun and I play Diplomacy for the social contact. Yes it's also about winning and losing but the league seems to have extinguished anything pleasant or social about the game.

I don't really have the personal time to devote to the Diplomacy anyway, but when I come to the PC and find a inbox full of hate, it makes me question my priorities.

So, if you want to spend your virtual online time with a bunch of arrogant, over-competitive, paranoid, hateful, duplicitous scumbags, join the leagues.

Or maybe it's just my league and the others are different.
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Please draw this game
please draw this:
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5416

france will comply
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texasdeluxe (516 D(B))
22 Sep 08 UTC
Anyone want to take over Germany before we start
Pre game still and Germany is CD! http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5760
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Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
DRAW REQUEST for "PRAGUE"
Hello Kestas,

please, can you draw the game http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5083.

The other players will confim shortly.
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sean (3490 D(B))
21 Sep 08 UTC
League Links
Ok, so thats bad news about the PB vs maple leaf squabble but apart from that we are all happy right? i know its bad form to display private chats and all but i would like a easy link to see how we are all going in our leagues.
here is group A
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5660
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Sicarius (673 D)
22 Sep 08 UTC
speed game
anyone interested in starting a speed game, now
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DukeAtreides (100 D)
20 Sep 08 UTC
Opening chat records post-game
Is there a particular reason that after a game has ended the chat records aren't opened to the general public? I think it would give an interesting context to the map.
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CirclMastr (227 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
Draw Request for LUELinks II
Please draw this game: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5328

The other players will confirm, and I am England confirming for myself. Thanks.
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MarekP (12864 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
Draw Request - "Blindfold"
Kestas, please, draw the game ID=5123 (Blindfold) as soon as all other players (England and Turkey) express their agreement. Thank you!
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Sicarius (673 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
Denver/Boulder
does anyone here, live... well here I guess
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Ursa (1617 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
I said, don't!!
I did not start this game but we're still looking for four players. If you're up for the challenge, please join 'Don't push the red button *push*' at http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5769

Bet = 25, not too high, not too low. Everyone welcome!
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Tucobenedicto (100 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
College Process
Any seniors on phpDip? How's the process treating you guys?
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bc2000 (990 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
Improvement?
Dear Kestas
I noticed you have paginated the Games tabs, but now I have a little issue while searching for something or someone there.

Before I used the Find tool of the browser, but that works only on the current page.

I know is a minimal topic, but I had no problem with the previous 1-page tabs and just was wondering if this change really is useful and what the majority of users prefers.

Thanks.
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ldrut (674 D)
20 Sep 08 UTC
No CDs Allowed - 101 Pts to join, 36 hours
So can I please have a game with fewer than 5 CD's and where everyone at least finishes 1901?
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