@Condescension

ha, i'd actually WANT to tip my waiter

@DO

no he's an arrogant self absorbed prick

PE, how do you reconcile what you're saying with krellin's reaction.

You want everyone to believe Trump isn't stupid. Well he's not. He did this to distract from his fraud settlement, and he did this to incite further anger between the sides. His trolling has a purpose, and it's a sinister one.

Obama: arrogant self-absorbed prick
Trump: ???????????????????

Whatever the case: why is this big news? Trump along with that entire broadway show are self entitled whiny bitches, meanwhile Bannon is creating an ACTUAL DEATH STAR to blow up the middle east

is that true? WE DON'T KNOW B/C THE MEDIA IS FLIPPING OUT ABOUT HAMILTON

but it COULD be true

@Condescension

Obama: arrogant self-absorbed prick
Trump: arrogant self-absorbed prick who wants to kill terrorist's families

and please don't call me a conservative

I'm from Canada. On our political spectrum, you are far-right.

"PE, how do you reconcile what you're saying with krellin's reaction."

Sounds like he doesn't like double standards. Reasonable stance to have. I don't get why he cares about it so much, but it is a pretty glaring example of a double standard -- how often were we told to respect the office, or that businesses shouldn't let politics interfere with the delivery of their product? -- so I guess if he cares about it like this, he's free to say whatever.

I maintain that most Trump people I know, and all of them offline, think that Pence's comment sums up their views and that Trump's tweet was bait - and that the only people still treating this like an 'issue' in need of discussion in my offline world are liberals continuing to justify an unjustifiable superiority complex over the Republicans and the president-elect.

"You want everyone to believe Trump isn't stupid. Well he's not. He did this to distract from his fraud settlement, and he did this to incite further anger between the sides. His trolling has a purpose, and it's a sinister one."

I'm not taking this projection seriously.

The thing about the soon-to-be most powerful man in the world demanding an apology based on a lie is that it doesn't really matter whether he later claims he was just fucking around. There is a global industry correctly devoted to taking the president (or president-elect) seriously, and just because that opens up the most epic trolling opportunities ever doesn't mean those opportunities should actually be taken.

Also, fuck that Obama hypothetical. The actual Obama comparison would look more like this:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/05/donald_trump_flat_out_lies_about_obama_s_reaction_to_a_protester_at_rally.html

The best thing that ever happened to Trump's chances for re-election and the Republicans chances across the board in near future elections is the bad behavior of the left. Behaving like rude weirdos only helps the right.

rude weirdos?? that is like the very definition of trump himself, and hey - he got elected

yall beyond help rn, god bless you and scoreboard

Assuming everything you're saying is correct, does it not worry you that the future POTUS is someone who's willing to drag other people through the mud in order to avoid negative press about his fraud trial, when he's not even in a campaign?

Even if we take the best possible interpretation of his actions (yours), he still doesn't come out looking too great. He is not assuring the American public at large, 75% of whom did not vote for him.

why does everything need to be about reassuring the professionally aggrieved?

because that's the only proportion of that 75% still talking about this.

trump's election was literally a repudiation of the idea that claiming grievance gives you a special platform where other people have to beckon to whatever you claim your needs to be

The only "Conservative" on this site who's really close to Yanik on the political spectrum is Octavious. Everyone else is considerably further to the right.

I don't think I agree, Eden. There are a lot of people who would not previously have been engaging in political discussions that are now very very upset. I think this change alone means that the President elect should be trying to smooth things out not stir the pot. The country is a lot more divided than it has been and the President will be the one who has responsibility to mend it, regardless of who actually voted for him. To say that he doesn't I think misinterprets the responsibilities of the office.

"rude weirdos?? that is like the very definition of trump himself, and hey - he got elected"

Not a completely baseless assessment of President Trump. The implication that his rudeness or weirdness got him elected is inaccurate, in my view. The American people were presented with two choices of which they were not fond and chose the least offensive, in their view. That is if the polling is to be believed.

It seems to me that holding up traffic and embarrassing some guy at a play are not pleasant behaviors and are likely to backfire, at least if future electoral success is the measure.

Based on the few times Trump attempted comedy, I never thought he had satire in him.

He doesn't. It is just Eden's way to try and justify all the stupid shit that comes out of Trump's mouth.

Trump: "The sky is green."
People: "No, and also, what?"
PE: "Oh my god, why are you so offended? He was *obviously* trolling the professionally aggrieved leftists who have been complaining about the sky being red for years."

<Obligatory lip service to the fact that a President tweeting trivial lies for the lulz is a partisan distraction>

Your face is a partisan distraction.

Prado/JY, your definition of conservative is the rest of the world's definition of Bundyite. You're both conservatives on a world scale.

I'm #CapitalistScum

"I'm not taking this projection seriously."

"You're right and I don't have a response, so I'm just going to go ahead and accuse you of projecting something."

This type of "obvious trolling" or whatever you want to call it has been quite common in Putin's administration and media campaigns for a while now. I really don't think Trump was kidding when he said he admired Putin.