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Al Swearengen (0

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06 Jul 15 UTC

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The Dream Job

Please pick a company (preferably a large company) that you would want to work at. Google and the NSA are disqualified.

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steephie22 (182

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So I'm really busy and everything's going great..

So now I'm considering the option of delegating some work around the webdesign-stuff. I have no clue how this would work legally though, amongst other things..

(Feel free to contact me.)

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06 Jul 15 UTC

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Join Me for A Gunboat?

WTA, 24 hour phase, (Semi) Anon, 250

buy-in, Hidden Draw Votes.

Anyone fancy the challenge?

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07 Jul 15 UTC

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2012 World Cup Quotes

Russia: (your predecessor can be quite annoying)

Russia, his predecessor is reading the press. Austria, you too. Not saying who that is, but hey.

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New ancient game back up - live

Its called Quick ancients-2
Pot is 10
5 minute rounds
We almost got there, 1 player off just a minute ago

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Live game now available

5 minute turns
Ancient
3 players already

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08 Jul 15 UTC

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gameID=164258

It's build phase, I (Germany) have 3 supply-centers, 2 units and "No orders to submit"?

I have a pic to show it.

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Discuss

"I think we can all agree that if I can save a child for the low low cost of who gives a shit, it was just some beers and a shirt and a weird smell, I should save the child."

http://www.philosophybro.com/post/120721529553/peter-singers-drowning-child-argument

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04 Jul 15 UTC
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Happy 4th of July

To all my Webdip friends, and Thucy too....:))

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08 Jul 15 UTC

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question about cheating investigations

I am a player in a (now paused) game "live gunshot 412." In the middle of a turn the game was apparently paused by a moderator...message was posted that the game had been paused due to a cheating investigation. Do those playing in the game find out the results from the investigation? Is it the case that even if no cheating is found that the game will still be cancelled? Can I go to bed without fear of the game resuming and me being charged with an nmr? Thank you.

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07 Jul 15 UTC

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Feature Question

Is there a way to remove from the left panel ("My Games") the games in which I have been defeated? Put another way, can I toggle something so that the only games I see in "My Games" are those that I'm still actively playing?

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Tru Ninja (1016

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07 Jul 15 UTC

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preview

Can we change the preview to allow us to submit test moves for opponents in addition to our moves so we can look at various outcomes?

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08 Jul 15 UTC
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Post Your Game

Post Your Game Here

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02 Jul 15 UTC

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Problem solving test

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/03/upshot/a-quick-puzzle-to-test-your-problem-solving.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&abt=0002&abg=0

Excellent test to examine your problem solving skills.

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03 Jul 15 UTC

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Quick quiz

What do the following countries have in common?

US, North Korea, Iran, Israel, India, Pakistan, Egypt

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TheMinisterOfWar (553

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22 Jun 15 UTC
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AmsterDip 2: Face To Face in Amsterdam on 28 June

We're doing another Face To Face in Amsterdam, this Sunday 28 June, and everyone's invited!

(see inside)

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Lando Calrissian (100

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24 Jun 15 UTC

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Anyone live in Philadelphia?

Might be going there in August.

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07 Jul 15 UTC

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Iphone/Ipad issue?

I've had to make some recent moves using these devices, and notice that in builds, I thought I've entered a fleet, only to have an army appear. It's almost certainly user input stupidity, so am I missing something in the save/ready commands? Is there a default set to army if an order is entered but improperly saved? Help - the admirals are pissed off.

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05 Jul 15 UTC

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Gunboat Series....

Am again running out of games.... Usual set of 5 gunboats, 15 point bet, 36hr phases with a commitment to ready up. No shifting of countries. Sign up below, first come, first served (subject to reasonable experience and reliability rating). All five games to be played simultaneously.

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Social Media Marketing: Building a Strong Online Image

No spam on the forum, please

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19 Jun 15 UTC
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steephie and I are starting a game of Civ V

Anyone want to join?

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A_Tin_Can (2234

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29 Jun 15 UTC

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Bouncing Russia in Sweden

German players who do this- why?

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steephie22 (182

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06 Jul 15 UTC

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A guy told me it's very suspicious if you pay with cash in America.

Bullshit?

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retardedarcher (323

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05 Jul 15 UTC

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How do you not become the odd man out in diplomacy?

I play very pragmatically: I don't let my allies get too big and I try to cooperate with former enemies to maintain a status-quo (while trying to get ahead of the status-quo).

retardedarcher (323 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

But it seems like everyone I talk to are such brick walls. I'm in a game (http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=163772) where I am Germany and I told England that I want to help him into Belgium and take on France. He says "I'd rather have a triple alliance where France gets belgium". Like what the fuck? You make France stronger and hope he gives you any crumbs after he defeats me? Why do you NOT want Belgium? So everything France and England are saying is super fishy and I think I'm the odd man out, so I go on the offensive. I've been keeping good relations with Russia the whole game, except threatening to bounce him in Sweden if he goes into Galicia. He doesn't go into Gal so I don't bounce him. He builds an Army in St. Peters and I offer to hit North Sea so he can get Norway. He says Ok. NEXT turn, fucking English Norway goes into Skagg, Norway COMPLETELY EMPTY and now St. Peter goes to Livonia. How the FUCK does England convince Russia to leave Norway empty for him and turn against me? He has nothing to offer and I offered him fucking Norway on a silver platter.

It's obvious that not everyone plays pragmatically, which makes sense. But how do these people form these emotional connections? How can they just leave flanks exposed because they did some sort of hypnosis that doesn't let them consider bad deals? I don't know anymore, I feel like everything I do is met with them half-ass talking to me or sketchy one liners. Do I have to offer to suck them off for them to love me?

jbalcorn (429 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

Annoyed or not, you shouldn't discuss ongoing games in the forum. Just play the game put in front of you.

Brankl (231 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

First of all, don't play PPSC games. Alliances get weird because of the incentive to grab as many centers as you can while helping someone else win.

Jeff Kuta (2066 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

If someone hasn't already said it yet...
DON'T PLAY PPSC GAMES.

retardedarcher (323 )
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Okay, I'll take this as a lesson to never play PPSC games.

kasimax (243 )
05 Jul 15 UTC
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i don't think it has been mentioned yet, so i'll say it: don't play ppsc games.

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

As someone else who plays pragmatically (meaning I never let an ally start to get too big) let me offer a few points of advice.

Key to this is never losing your cool in press. If you want this playstyle, you need to be one of the most active people in press on the board. And you must always maintain good relationships with people, even if you're attacking them/they're attacking you. But I know there are lots of players who just swear off working with someone based on them trying to do elaborate tricks in press, or just being annoying in general. I find being a straight-shooter helps in this aspect much more than being vague.

Chumbles (791 )
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@archer, Goldie has pretty much got the rubric right. But for best results be friendly, don't preach, don't tell them that they're stupid and above all don't bring your ego into the game.

Most of all don't offer to variously suck, or cut their dicks off! More seriously, if you really want to win, adjust your language to your audience, otherwise they'll be too busy reacting to that and not the good sense wrapped in the, err, brown paper.

Chumbles (791 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

Sorry Goldie, that was meant as a compliment, i.e. 'not much to add to your excellent comments'!

BrandNew (90 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

Always analyse your own behaviour first, not revising your own actions and focusing on blaming someone else only stops your from getting better in this game (this also can be applied to everything else). So far your stats are not so good, so maybe there is really something wrong/odd about how you negotiate? Is it possible that you are too impatient, hard-bitten, the-only-one-who-is-always-right with your allies?

It was mentioned to play WTA games, I also say: play anonimous games. In unanonimous games players will always check profiles of each other, and everyone's actions will be biased. Maybe it's your stats that make people see you as easy target/unpromising ally?

Also remember, it's not about promising to give territories, you can't make someone your ally just by saying 'I give you Norway'. It's just bigger than that, it's about persuading, about appearing as a reliable person, and about a lot more things. And it's about learning how to persuade all sorts of people, not just reasonable pragmatic people like you. Everybody have their own reasons.

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

Also, never think that you know best and always be open for learning something new.

For example, Chumbles taught me that I can't go "hey Russia, I'm force disbanding your northern fleets, but then we can still be friends, right?" Certain people are more receptive than others to that type of planning, and it all depends upon the situation on the board.

Tru Ninja (1016 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

Here are some concrete examples of what the pros are saying:

1) in the scenario you're describing, if England is offering France Belgium, you can reply: "sounds reasonable. I'm always up for a Western triple. Here's the big dollar question: what if France decides to simply take Belgium and then not decide to go along with our triple? Can we agree to keep him in check so he doesn't get out of control the way a 6 SC France can be?"

This type of press makes you sound to England like you're more his ally than France's and that if something goes wrong, you have his back.

Then, you also talk to Russia about keeping England in check or talk to Italy about keeping France in check.

if you're not getting the deal you want, talk to others on the map to ensure that it doesn't play out poorly for you while you reroute things.

Octavious (2701 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

Luck plays a huge part in diplomacy. Sometimes you just happen to start next to someone who, if you met in real life, would be the sort of arsehole you'd go out of your way to avoid, would have to literally bite your tongue to avoid saying something unwise to them, and invariably ends up marrying your sister. That's life, I'm afraid.

Valis2501 (2850 )
05 Jul 15 UTC
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Is your sister single Oct?

Octavious (2701 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

No, no she is not.

Valis2501 (2850 )
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Are you single? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Sevyas (973 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

After so much input, why not try some of those theories in a game (NOT PPSC) with an EOG afterwards? That might help you to understand some of the other players decisions better.

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TrPrado (461 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

I'm coming into need of a game and see this just in time.
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Randomizer (722 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

There is also the possibility that there is meta gaming going on where the players know each other and will ally because of real life or past alliances. This is harder to do in anonymous games, but can happen if they talk about joining a game together.

Sevyas (973 )
05 Jul 15 UTC

Yes, that is a possibility, and also against the rules. If you susect someone of cheating, email the mods and they will look into it.

BrandNew (90 )
06 Jul 15 UTC

I'm in. I'd also add anonymous as a condition.
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Sevyas (973 )
06 Jul 15 UTC

anonymous is my preferance as well.

Retardedarcher, are you in?

retardedarcher (323 )
06 Jul 15 UTC

No dice.

TrPrado (461 )
06 Jul 15 UTC

And so it drops to 2.

Al Swearengen (0 )
06 Jul 15 UTC

@retardedarcher

Thank you for posting. Unfortunately, I can't find any flaws in the reasoning that you presented in your original posts, nor can I arrive at any reasonable solution for the quandary that you presented. The quandary presented stems in large part from the low level of play typical of the folks here. Usually mere trickery is more effective against this level of opposition than strategy or complicated subterfuge. Truly high-level play is something of a rarity at this site.

This site is enjoyable for other reasons, for example the ease with which one can get a game going. Sorry you aren't having a good experience, but there are some who are of the opinion that street ball can be enjoyable in it's own right.

Hope this helps!

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2015 June GhostRating Challenge

All previous GRC games are completed and a recent GR update was just put out, you know what that means!

Full Press Classic WTA GR Challenge Signup!

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06 Jul 15 UTC

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2 questions, it's been a while

Hi:
(1) If you destroy an enemy unit WITHOUT taking a center from that person, are they able to build a replacement?

(2) Russia has just launched an attack on Germany, successfully grabbing Denmark in an autumn season; the relevant units in spring are:

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06 Jul 15 UTC

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Possible Error in Code for World Diplomacy

I have a fleet in Vostok and I am given Dumont dUrville as a possible move destination. This should not be a valid move, right? That would be the same as a fleet moving from Liverpool to Edinburgh in classic.

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Tru Ninja (1016

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06 Jul 15 UTC

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settlers of catan

I'm gonna start a game via catan online world at playcatan.com if anyone wants to play

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United States wins Women's World Cup!

With a 5-2 win over reigning champions Japan, which included 4 goals in the first 16 minutes (3 of them by Carli Lloyd), the USWNT has won their 3rd World Cup (the record), and first since 1999.

Any thoughts? Presumably I'm not the only one who cares about this...

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UNited States vs Europe game

Would it be cool to try something like a United States vs. Europe game..there will be an equal amount of americans playing vs an equal amount of europeans, however, the teams will be split up so nations will be divided

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