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Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Getting a second undergrad degree in a mostly unrelated subject
I think I may end up doing this 2-4 years from now, and I just wonder how common it is.

Also, a potentially stupid related question - how possible is it to get into a grad school in a subject you did not study in undergrad? Can you just take courses a la carte to meet the pre-reqs and/or beg them to let you give it a shot? All my research on grad school doesn't turn up much on what kind of students are accepted into the programs.
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Hamilton Brian (811 D(B))
28 Feb 15 UTC
Potential replacement player needed
May need someone to jump into this game; England is in a pretty tenable position.
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Yonni (136 D(S))
28 Feb 15 UTC
Anyone get Dead tickets?
I know people were discussing earlier about trying to go. I'm currently in queue with ticketmaster - anyone have any luck?
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KingCyrus (511 D)
28 Feb 15 UTC
Only in Michigan...
http://www.upmatters.com/story/d/story/shirtless-men-soaking-up-the-up-sun/25580/gyGS7uqhb0On19dFShBNgA

I literally know these two guys.
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ssorenn (0 DX)
27 Feb 15 UTC
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Sad Day for Star Trek fans everywhere
http://www.aol.com/article/2015/02/27/leonard-nimoy-passes-away-at-83/21147596/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing11%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3 D620253
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Maniac (189 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Maths Q
I'm not great at maths and don't actually have data to even form the question, but I hope you guys can help anyway...more inside.
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Hannibal76 (100 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Replacement
Hey guys. A replacement is needed for 2 games that are still in pre-game.
Bubble Blowin' Baby Hunt
What is it good for?-2
Both games are England
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JamesYanik (548 D)
27 Feb 15 UTC
High Quality World Game
(300 D) bet, WTA, Anonymous, Public Messaging Only
Almost zero chance of this starting, but I'd like to try it!
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
The Mind-Bending Dress
http://i.imgur.com/12LBa2V.jpg

What color is it?
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
American Universities penalize Asians in admissions for being Asian
How do proponents of "Diversity" feel about this?

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
27 Feb 15 UTC
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Reliability Ratings Update
Reliability ratings should be complete now.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
27 Feb 15 UTC
REPLACEMENT NEEDED
gameID=155790
Quebec, still in 1st phase, full 24 hours untill next turn
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trip (696 D(B))
26 Feb 15 UTC
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Lusthog Gunboat
A gunboat game where players are prohibited from voting to draw until a stalemate line is formed and held. Game details inside...
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jake333 (94 DX)
27 Feb 15 UTC
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Live game
Live game anyone?
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pangloss (363 D)
26 Feb 15 UTC
Players Wanted
webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=155958
36 hour WTA, non-anon. I and my friends are playing together. We need four more people.
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
U.S. military vehicles paraded 300 yards from the Russian border
We like our NATO allies.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/02/24/u-s-military-vehicles-paraded-300-yards-from-the-russian-border/
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Stans8 (100 D)
26 Feb 15 UTC
Join LIVE gameID=155927
LIVE GAME gameID=155927
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SandgooseXXI (113 D)
26 Feb 15 UTC
FCC Passes some good internet!
Hey all, thought this might be worth discussion:
http://gizmodo.com/fcc-passes-strongest-net-neutrality-rules-in-americas-h-1688204371?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
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SandgooseXXI (113 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
The Gutsy Goose
gameID=155882
Just going to leave that right there...hope to see you in the game!
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yassem (2533 D)
26 Feb 15 UTC
I have never eaten a corn-dog
Is it any good?
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grking (100 D)
24 Feb 15 UTC
Donating Blood
I lurk and occasionally ask for advice. Today, I have a question concerning donating blood.
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NoirSuede (100 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
Newbie questions
1. What does purple lines mean on the map ? I know that red means move and yellow means support move, but i have no idea what purple is.

2. In ordering support moves, what does the "to....." and the "from...." do respectively ?
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JPS (292 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
Diplomacy / Playstyle
Veiled threats, insinuations, passive aggressive attacks
My question : Do you use them?
What do you think of them being used against you?
Thanks JPS
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
25 Feb 15 UTC
EoG gameID=154077
gameID=154077
EoG to follow
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semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
US Net Neutrality
The FCC is voting on broad internet regulation rules in two days. GOP members of the board have asked that the vote be delayed thirty days and the rules released to the public. Thoughts?

http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/23/republican-fcc-commissioners-ask-wheeler-to-delay-net-neutrality-vote-release-proposal/
pangloss (363 D)
24 Feb 15 UTC
It seems reasonable to ask that the people be allowed to read over the rules before they are voted on. On the other hand, the likelihood that anyone will is very low.

Hopefully the USA can get its act together on net neutrality, because otherwise we'll soon see a move on the part of other countries either to supplant US influence on the Internet's infrastructure or else attempt to opt out.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
24 Feb 15 UTC
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ISPs have shown time and again they can not be trusted to self-regulate. The Internet is too important in modern society not to be properly regulated and because the the massive capital required, it's not reasonable to expect the market to allow for enough competition needed.

In terms of this specifically, it seems like a stalling tactic. We all know public interest doesn't last for anything for long. I'm also not too sure why it would be even needed. It's my understanding that the broad implications are already known. If it's an absolute disaster, it can always be changed again.
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
@abge,

"In terms of this specifically, it seems like a stalling tactic. We all know public interest doesn't last for anything for long. I'm also not too sure why it would be even needed. It's my understanding that the broad implications are already known. If it's an absolute disaster, it can always be changed again."

I'm not sure you're too familiar with regulatory bodies (which is completely reasonable, in fairness). First of all, "public interest doesn't last for anything for long." Who cares? They don't need public interest in order to pass this. It's their job, and it will come up on one of their upcoming meetings with or without public interest. Second, changing regulations after they're in place is a monstrously slow and cumbersome process. It is much better to get them right the first time.

" I'm also not too sure why it would be even needed. It's my understanding that the broad implications are already known."

So you can't think of a reason why it would be reasonable to let the public see the details of a 300-page plan to regulate the most important communication system in the world, which has never been regulated, before it happens? How exactly would the implications already be known if we haven't seen the rules?

@pangloss,

"It seems reasonable to ask that the people be allowed to read over the rules before they are voted on. On the other hand, the likelihood that anyone will is very low. "

I think the liklihood of people like the EFF reading these rules if they were released is approximately 100%.
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
A quote from the two members' press release:

"These Internet regulations will deter broadband deployment, depress network investment and slow broadband speeds. How do we know? Compare Europe, which has long had utility-style regulations, with the United States, which has embraced a light-touch regulatory model. Broadband speeds in the United States, both wired and wireless, are significantly faster than those in Europe. Broadband investment in the United States is several multiples that of Europe. And broadband’s reach is much wider in the United States, despite its much lower population density."
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
24 Feb 15 UTC
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@semck

I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that the FCC is taking up net neutrality mostly because of public outcry. Should that outcry die down, it's very easy to imagine them tabling this indefinitely to appease ISPs.
pangloss (363 D)
24 Feb 15 UTC
"I think the liklihood of people like the EFF reading these rules if they were released is approximately 100%."

I suppose, but I don't think these people form a critical mass. The EFF have been beating their drum about net neutrality as far back as I can remember, and yet very little has changed. What you Americans seem to lack is a leader with the political will (and the political capital, for that matter) to make large changes to the current Internet regulatory scheme. This is not to say that I'm not hoping there will be one--I do--but I'm generally pessimistic about positive changes, especially when there's money on the line in the opposite direction.

As for the quotation from the members' press release, I half-suspected that there were motives aside from political transparency at play; I just wilfully suspended my scepticism for one brief, shining moment. Look where that got me!

I also question the truthfulness of the statement. I don't live in Europe, but I understand that there are pretty good speeds and penetration across the continent. In Canada, our government was criticised for setting a low target for Internet speeds (I think they were aiming for 20 Mbps down) when Europeans were aiming for 50 Mbps down (or something like that).
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
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@abge,

Perhaps. But regulatory bodies doing things quickly and non-transparently due to public outcry is not a good model of government. Regulatory bodies are charged with making the best decisions available, weighing a lot of different factors including public opinion. No part of their job description is to quickly translate the cause du jour into new regulations in a rapid fashion.

If the FCC wouldn't pass this without active, daily public outcry, that's awfully close to a conclusive argument that there are not sufficient reasons to pass it at all. I'm dubious, though, that the FCC has so utterly abdicated its proper role as to be quite as sensitive to the headlines as you suggest.
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
@pangloss,

"I suppose, but I don't think these people form a critical mass."

By themselves they do not. However, if there were an issue of grave concern in the regulations, the EFF would have the wherewithal to mobilize the public in huge numbers and make sure their concerns had been registered with the FCC. Few people read Congressional bills, either, but EFF and related groups (including some businesses) were able to successfully stop SOPA by mobilizing the public. How would we like it if SOPA had been passed without ever being exposed to the light of day first?

Well, Congress isn't allowed to do that, so we don't have to worry. But why should the FCC do it?
pangloss (363 D)
24 Feb 15 UTC
@semck83, I admire your optimism, and I certainly hope that something is done about net neutrality in the USA. Perhaps Richard Stallman can be the next chairman of the FCC.

While certainly many websites and organisations spoke out against SOPA, I suspect that the provisions contained therein will be back soon, in one way or another. You see, there is money to be made, and there isn't a blacked-out website on earth that can stop the American dream.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
24 Feb 15 UTC
@semck

I'm not arguing against transparency. I just don't believe the commissioners want the proposal released because they believe in transparency. I'm sure there will be things that aren't perfect and I'm sure those against net neutrality in general would love to watch this be nit-picked apart and die.
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
@abge,

"I'm not arguing against transparency. I just don't believe the commissioners want the proposal released because they believe in transparency."

I don't much care why the commissioners want the proposal released. *I* want the proposal released because of transparency.

"I'm sure there will be things that aren't perfect and I'm sure those against net neutrality in general would love to watch this be nit-picked apart and die."

And I'm sure those who are against copyright law wanted to see SOPA be picked apart and die. So? It died for great reasons -- it was a crappy bill. These regulations are too important and too sweeping not to be seen before release (even if some of those arguing that are opportunistic -- which I can't comment on, because I know nothing at all about the commissioners in question).
X3n0n (216 D)
24 Feb 15 UTC
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@semck Do you believe this press release?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

the top ten are countries with heavy regulations. I guess the speed rankings depend much more on investment cycles (at least in the upper tier). There are plenty of people to let me know, whether I'm wrong on this account.
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
Here is an editorial that touches some of the concerns that should be discussed:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/l-gordon-crovitz-from-internet-to-obamanet-1424644324

Is this overreaction? Are the arguments right? *I don't know.* I certainly don't trust that five guys in DC understand these issues well enough not to have what they're about to do be -- specifically -- put up for discussion and argument. It's just appalling that hugely that the internet is about to be regulated for the first time, when there few real problems with the current model, *and nobody even cares to see and discuss the regulations.* This will not be easy to change later.
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
X3n0n,

I'm far from an expert on that subject. I would love the regulations to be read by third-party people who are.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
24 Feb 15 UTC
I was talking about why the commissioners wanted the proposal released. That's mostly conjecture, though, so fair enough if you want to talk about the larger issue.

pangloss (363 D)
24 Feb 15 UTC
@semck83, I'm afraid I don't have a WSJ subscription. Any chance you can copy and paste the article?
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
@abge,

Fair enough. My point is mostly that I just don't care why the commissioners want the proposal released. It might be extremely bad-faith, for all I know, but they are correct in wanting it released (whatever their motives). Even if they want it released to kill the reg -- if they think it would have that effect, that's an important thing to know. But again, that doesn't matter either. It should just be released.

@pangloss,

I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that, sorry. I don't have a WSJ subscription either, so I'm not clear on why I was allowed to see it. Try searching for "net neutrality wsj" (without quotes) on Google news. Maybe they will let you through from that referrer.
pangloss (363 D)
24 Feb 15 UTC
Found the article. Here it is, for anyone who wants it (death to paywalls!):

"Critics of President Obama’s “net neutrality” plan call it ObamaCare for the Internet.

That’s unfair to ObamaCare.

Both ObamaCare and “Obamanet” submit huge industries to complex regulations. Their supporters say the new rules had to be passed before anyone could read them. But at least ObamaCare claimed it would solve long-standing problems. Obamanet promises to fix an Internet that isn’t broken.

No one, including the bullied FCC chairman, Tom Wheeler, thought the agency would go this far. The big politicization came when President Obama in November demanded that the supposedly independent FCC apply the agency’s most extreme regulation to the Internet. A recent page-one Wall Street Journal story headlined “Net Neutrality: How White House Thwarted FCC Chief” documented “an unusual, secretive effort inside the White House . . . acting as a parallel version of the FCC itself.”

Congress is demanding details of this interference. In the early 1980s, a congressional investigation blasted President Reagan for telling his FCC chairman his view of regulations about television reruns. “I believe it is imperative for the integrity of all regulatory processes that the president unequivocally declare that he will express no view in the matter and that he will do nothing to intervene in the work of the FCC,” said Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, a New York Democrat.

Mr. Obama’s role raises legal as well as political questions. Those harmed by the new rules could argue in court that political pressure made the agency’s actions “arbitrary and capricious.”

The more than 300 pages of new regulations are secret, but Mr. Wheeler says they will subject the Internet to the key provisions of Title II of the Communications Act of 1934, under which the FCC oversaw Ma Bell.

Title II authorizes the commission to decide what “charges” and “practices” are “just and reasonable”—an enormous amount of discretion. Former FCC Commissioner Robert McDowell has found 290 federal appeals court opinions on this section and more than 1,700 FCC administrative interpretations.

Defenders of the Obama plan claim that there will be regulatory “forbearance,” though not from the just-and-reasonable test. They also promise not to regulate prices, a pledge that Republican FCC Commissioner Ajit Pai has called “flat-out false.” He added: “The only limit on the FCC’s discretion to regulate rates is its own determination of whether rates are ‘just and reasonable,’ which isn’t much of a restriction at all.”

The Supreme Court has ruled that if the FCC applies Title II to the Internet, all uses of telecommunications will have to pass the “just and reasonable” test. Bureaucrats can review the fairness of Google ’s search results, Facebook ’s news feeds and news sites’ links to one another and to advertisers. BlackBerry is already lobbying the FCC to force Apple and Netflix to offer apps for BlackBerry’s unpopular phones. Bureaucrats will oversee peering, content-delivery networks and other parts of the interconnected network that enables everything from Netflix and YouTube to security drones and online surgery.

Supporters of Obamanet describe it as a counter to the broadband duopoly of cable and telecom companies. In reality, it gives duopolists another tool to block competition. Utility regulations let dominant companies complain that innovations from upstarts fail the “just and reasonable” test—as truly disruptive innovations often do.

AT&T has decades of experience leveraging FCC regulations to stop competition. Last week AT&T announced a high-speed broadband plan that charges an extra $29 a month to people who don’t want to be tracked for online advertising. New competitor Google Fiber can offer low-cost broadband only because it also earns revenues from online advertising. In other words, AT&T has already built a case against Google Fiber that Google’s cross-subsidization from advertising is not “just and reasonable.”

Utility regulation was designed to maintain the status quo, and it succeeds. This is why the railroads, Ma Bell and the local water monopoly were never known for innovation. The Internet was different because its technologies, business models and creativity were permissionless.

This week Mr. Obama’s bureaucrats will give him the regulated Internet he demands. Unless Congress or the courts block Obamanet, it will be the end of the Internet as we know it."

The objections here seem to be procedural moreso than philosophical. The end goal is already agreed-upon, and the argument against what the FCC seems to be proposing is that it unfairly benefits telecoms and stifles innovation. I think the FSF might have something to say about that, but that's a discussion for another day.
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
"death to paywalls!"

Indeed. God forbid that journalism should remain a financially viable field.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
24 Feb 15 UTC
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So, I've been thinking about this carefully. I think semck makes a good point. I've been against the idea because I wholeheartedly believe the commissioners' motives are disingenuous. This, I believe, may have clouded my opinion. I think semck is right that it doesn't matter why any one particular person wants it released; the question is should it be released. I think the answer to that question must be yes.
pangloss (363 D)
24 Feb 15 UTC
"God forbid that journalism should remain a financially viable field."

Because the only way for a news organisation to make money is by selling subscriptions. Anyway, I support the free and unhindered flow of information, and I see paywalls and other forms of content locking as anathema to this.
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
"Because the only way for a news organisation to make money is by selling subscriptions"

I'm with Jaron Lanier on this one. Tons of people have been saying for years, "Oh, those lazy newspapers, they're getting left behind because they can't come up with another model to make money with." Not a single one of them has suggested another viable model that has actually worked to make money for newspapers.

"Anyway, I support the free and unhindered flow of information, and I see paywalls and other forms of content locking as anathema to this."

And I support paying somebody to do valuable information curation. "Free and unhindered flow of information" is a nice and exciting catchphrase. If you think about it very long, there's not actually any good argument supporting it (as applied here).
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
@abge,

Cool. : )
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
24 Feb 15 UTC
Does really no one have an opinion on this?
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
I second abge's question.

Also, one of the Democrats on the commission is now said to be concerned.

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/233626-fcc-dem-wants-last-minute-changes-to-net-neutrality-rules
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
(Although not necessarily about transparency).
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
In fact, rereading the article I posted more clearly, it's not 100% clear to me whether the headline was honest, or if this is just standard editing. I may have posted too quickly.

In any event, yes -- no other opinions on this?
fiedler (1293 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
Given that the Internet is no longer an infant that can be strangled in its crib, i feel confident it can ultimately triumph over any foolish attempts to limit what geeks want to do. The technology is out of the bag and people will simply build or buy their own networks or network access or whatever it takes so they can have the net experience they want.

In sum not worried in the least.
semck83 (229 D(B))
25 Feb 15 UTC
Here are Mark Cuban's thoughts, for those who might find them interesting.

http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2015/02/mark-cuban-faults-silicon-valley-groupthink-says-fcc-broadband-rule-a-mistake.html/


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ssorenn (0 DX)
24 Feb 15 UTC
Abge looking for friends...EoG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=154049
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CaptainG (100 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
New here: How do I join a new game?
I've been looking around the site and I'd like to join a game. When I click on the "Games" link I do see a bunch of games. Some are in progress already. Some have "join for x". I'd really appreciate detailed instructions, step by step, click by click. Details are important to me.

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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
24 Feb 15 UTC
Playing partial positions
So, let's say that you've set up a day to play a FTF game, but due to misorders (or whatever), not everyone turns up.
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
18 Feb 15 UTC
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2015 Winter SOW - Recruitment
Hello everyone! I'm pleased to announce that a Professor and Adjunct Professor have graciously offered to teach the 2015 Winter School of War. We are looking for TA's and Students, details within.
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semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
Online Shaming
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html?_r=1

Your thoughts?
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