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Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Getting a second undergrad degree in a mostly unrelated subject
I think I may end up doing this 2-4 years from now, and I just wonder how common it is.

Also, a potentially stupid related question - how possible is it to get into a grad school in a subject you did not study in undergrad? Can you just take courses a la carte to meet the pre-reqs and/or beg them to let you give it a shot? All my research on grad school doesn't turn up much on what kind of students are accepted into the programs.
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Hamilton Brian (811 D(B))
28 Feb 15 UTC
Potential replacement player needed
May need someone to jump into this game; England is in a pretty tenable position.
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Yonni (136 D(S))
28 Feb 15 UTC
Anyone get Dead tickets?
I know people were discussing earlier about trying to go. I'm currently in queue with ticketmaster - anyone have any luck?
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KingCyrus (511 D)
28 Feb 15 UTC
Only in Michigan...
http://www.upmatters.com/story/d/story/shirtless-men-soaking-up-the-up-sun/25580/gyGS7uqhb0On19dFShBNgA

I literally know these two guys.
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ssorenn (0 DX)
27 Feb 15 UTC
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Sad Day for Star Trek fans everywhere
http://www.aol.com/article/2015/02/27/leonard-nimoy-passes-away-at-83/21147596/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing11%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3 D620253
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Maniac (189 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Maths Q
I'm not great at maths and don't actually have data to even form the question, but I hope you guys can help anyway...more inside.
Maniac (189 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Data
1901-1911 – net emigration – 80,000 each year
1911-1921 – net emigration – 90,000 each year
1921-1931 – net emigration – 70,000 each year
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1991-2001 net immigration +50000 each year
2001-2011 net immigration +200000 each year
In simple terms overall effect is +100,000 in the period. But the people who left in 1901 may have had 6-7 living offspring by now which would affect figures greatly.
Does anyone know how I would adjust figures for notional population growth?
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Feb 15 UTC
What are you trying to find out?
Maniac (189 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
simply put have more people left UK than arrived based on above data if you include the living offspring of all those who have emigrated?
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Feb 15 UTC
I'm sorry but I still don't see how this question makes any sense. If the offspring emigrated with their parents they would be included in the net emigration figure. If they didn't leave, then they don't impact the statistics, unless you're counting birth as entering the country.
ssorenn (0 DX)
27 Feb 15 UTC
Doesn't the uK offer census data.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Wait do you want to know how many people the UK would have if people who emigrated didn't and had their kids in the UK instead of wherever they went to?
Octavious (2701 D)
27 Feb 15 UTC
It's too late anyway. The country went to hell after we let the Saxons in. And the least said about the Jutes the better.
X3n0n (216 D)
27 Feb 15 UTC
I guess abgemacht hit the nail. there exist some models to estimate this. I personal would like to know what kind of argument you'd like to make. Because this deeply affects the way you would estimate (there is no "true" nor "good" estimator for population with only the data you're using here).
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
I think you are looking for something like this:
Start with your initial population (p), net population growth rate (g), time periods (t1, t2, t3, etc.) number of generations remaining until end of period for each time period in your evaluation period (n1, n2, n3, etc.).
So if you are breaking things out by decade (say 1901-1910 is time period t1, 1911-1920 is time period t2, … 2001-2010 is time period t11), say p is 10,000,000 (10 million), net growth rate g is 1.2 (2 adult members of population produce an avg of 2.4 children that will survive to adulthood and can in turn reproduce) and you say each generation is 20 years (so n1 is 5 or 100 yrs/20yrs per generation) then your initial population p would grow as follows over 100 years - p*(g^(n1)) = 10,000,000*(1.2^5)= 24,883,200. Now if you want to find out the total impact over the next 100 years of 50,000 people (e for emigration) leaving the country in that first decade t1, then you use e+e*(g^(n1))=50,000+50,000*(1.2^5)=174,416 (50K that left plus the 124K future offspring they would have generated).

Now when you are looking at emigration in later time periods such as t4 (1931-1940) there will be 70 years remaining so your n4 is just 3.5 (70 yrs/20yrs per generation), so 50k people emigrating in t4 would have impact 50,000+50,000*(1.2^3.5)=144,646.

If you want to get even more complex you could add in different growth rates for emigrees vs. immigrants, in which case you would calculate the impact of emigration and immigration individually first and then perform your subtraction to determine net overall impact.
Maniac (189 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
@octavious yes exactly - i want to count the unborn offspring of each emigree that would still be alive today.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Feb 15 UTC
This is what I would do to start. For a 1st generation emigrant use average birthrate in UK to estimate how many kids they had.

For 2nd and later generations, you should use the destination country birthrate.

Not terribly accurate, but should be very quick to calculate.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Yeah, or just do what Yal said.
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Yes you could also have the birth rates vary over time if you want to add even more complexity. In that case rather than using 1.2^5 from my example you would use something like 1.2*1.25*1.17*1.29*1.24 (you could research historical rates these are entirely made up by me).
Maniac (189 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Yaleunc - does your figures factor in the death of the original migrees?
Maniac (189 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
I don't think I should use other country's growth rate as I'm trying to ascertain how many offspring they would have had if they had stayed.
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
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My figures are made up for illustrative purposes. If you use growth rate rather than birth rate (as some offspring die off before being able to reproduce) then it should already have that factored in. Not sure how easy those figures are to obtain. If you can only get birth rates then you probably also need to add lifespan impact to your calculations as well.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
27 Feb 15 UTC
Kick out all the chavs.
MKECharlie (2074 D(G))
28 Feb 15 UTC
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You spelled math wrong.

#obligitotyAmericanTroll


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Hannibal76 (100 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Replacement
Hey guys. A replacement is needed for 2 games that are still in pre-game.
Bubble Blowin' Baby Hunt
What is it good for?-2
Both games are England
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JamesYanik (548 D)
27 Feb 15 UTC
High Quality World Game
(300 D) bet, WTA, Anonymous, Public Messaging Only
Almost zero chance of this starting, but I'd like to try it!
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
The Mind-Bending Dress
http://i.imgur.com/12LBa2V.jpg

What color is it?
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
American Universities penalize Asians in admissions for being Asian
How do proponents of "Diversity" feel about this?

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
27 Feb 15 UTC
(+5)
Reliability Ratings Update
Reliability ratings should be complete now.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
27 Feb 15 UTC
REPLACEMENT NEEDED
gameID=155790
Quebec, still in 1st phase, full 24 hours untill next turn
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trip (696 D(B))
26 Feb 15 UTC
(+1)
Lusthog Gunboat
A gunboat game where players are prohibited from voting to draw until a stalemate line is formed and held. Game details inside...
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jake333 (94 DX)
27 Feb 15 UTC
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Live game
Live game anyone?
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pangloss (363 D)
26 Feb 15 UTC
Players Wanted
webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=155958
36 hour WTA, non-anon. I and my friends are playing together. We need four more people.
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
U.S. military vehicles paraded 300 yards from the Russian border
We like our NATO allies.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/02/24/u-s-military-vehicles-paraded-300-yards-from-the-russian-border/
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Stans8 (100 D)
26 Feb 15 UTC
Join LIVE gameID=155927
LIVE GAME gameID=155927
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SandgooseXXI (113 D)
26 Feb 15 UTC
FCC Passes some good internet!
Hey all, thought this might be worth discussion:
http://gizmodo.com/fcc-passes-strongest-net-neutrality-rules-in-americas-h-1688204371?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
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SandgooseXXI (113 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
The Gutsy Goose
gameID=155882
Just going to leave that right there...hope to see you in the game!
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yassem (2533 D)
26 Feb 15 UTC
I have never eaten a corn-dog
Is it any good?
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grking (100 D)
24 Feb 15 UTC
Donating Blood
I lurk and occasionally ask for advice. Today, I have a question concerning donating blood.
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NoirSuede (100 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
Newbie questions
1. What does purple lines mean on the map ? I know that red means move and yellow means support move, but i have no idea what purple is.

2. In ordering support moves, what does the "to....." and the "from...." do respectively ?
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JPS (292 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
Diplomacy / Playstyle
Veiled threats, insinuations, passive aggressive attacks
My question : Do you use them?
What do you think of them being used against you?
Thanks JPS
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
25 Feb 15 UTC
EoG gameID=154077
gameID=154077
EoG to follow
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semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
US Net Neutrality
The FCC is voting on broad internet regulation rules in two days. GOP members of the board have asked that the vote be delayed thirty days and the rules released to the public. Thoughts?

http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/23/republican-fcc-commissioners-ask-wheeler-to-delay-net-neutrality-vote-release-proposal/
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ssorenn (0 DX)
24 Feb 15 UTC
Abge looking for friends...EoG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=154049
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CaptainG (100 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
New here: How do I join a new game?
I've been looking around the site and I'd like to join a game. When I click on the "Games" link I do see a bunch of games. Some are in progress already. Some have "join for x". I'd really appreciate detailed instructions, step by step, click by click. Details are important to me.

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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
24 Feb 15 UTC
Playing partial positions
So, let's say that you've set up a day to play a FTF game, but due to misorders (or whatever), not everyone turns up.
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
18 Feb 15 UTC
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2015 Winter SOW - Recruitment
Hello everyone! I'm pleased to announce that a Professor and Adjunct Professor have graciously offered to teach the 2015 Winter School of War. We are looking for TA's and Students, details within.
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semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
Online Shaming
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html?_r=1

Your thoughts?
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