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Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Getting a second undergrad degree in a mostly unrelated subject
I think I may end up doing this 2-4 years from now, and I just wonder how common it is.

Also, a potentially stupid related question - how possible is it to get into a grad school in a subject you did not study in undergrad? Can you just take courses a la carte to meet the pre-reqs and/or beg them to let you give it a shot? All my research on grad school doesn't turn up much on what kind of students are accepted into the programs.
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rdrivera2005 (3533 D(G))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Well, can´t give you a proper answer because the educational system is completelly diferent in Brasil. But having a bachelor degree more then once is relatively common here.
If fact I have three, in unrelated fields: Computer Science (first and main area), Economics and Law. Of course this costed me something like 12 years studying at Uni, not counting my Msc. even not having to attend related courses again....
And I have colleagues on a MsC on Computer Science that are graduated on Biology (but they know hot write code at least).
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
@Santa: don't be a dick; I ready explained why I haven't done that yet

@everyone else: thanks for all your help. I'm much closer to figuring out what to do than I was earlier. Regarding taking pre-reqs for an MS without getting a new undergrad, how would one usually go about this? Would you simply audit each class a là carte or is there some sort of program for this type Of thing? Or would it normally be done at the same institution you plan to get your MS from? Does it matter what school you get pre-reqs from?

(I ask this because I am also planning on taking classes to get a technical certificate in horticulture in the next year at a community college here in New Orleans - perhaps while there I can knock out a few of these basic pre-reqs as well, just in case I decide to try for the MS later on?)
Do you really need another degree? Could you perhaps get practical OJT in agricultural practices by working for a company/nonprofit that is assisting African nations with improving their agriculture? For example, I would trust someone who has on-the-ground experience designing and building irrigation systems in Africa but who has no degree more than I would trust someone who had the paper but no experience.

I ate at a Senegalese restaurant last night, btw. It was good.
I think you need to do more than audit these classes because you have to offset the Masters degree granting institution regarding your competence in the subject area you're intending to get the Masters in. I would contact the department chair at your local university and see about if it would be possible to take classes for academic credit but not towards a degree plan.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
"by working for a company/nonprofit that is assisting African nations with improving their agriculture?"

Haha, this is my end-goal. If I get the degree, it will be a means towards this end. So if I already had such experience, I wouldn't waste my time and money at school. That said I am working on building my personal experience that can serve as an technical "intro to agriculture" - it started small, simply learning to ID plants, keep a garden, and shovel compost. I now work at a nursery and I have volunteered with an urban gleaning project as an intern for a year and a half (want an orange?). Next year I'm going to go to school for a semester to get a technical certificate in horticulture, and in the meantime I have been and will continue to take online classes and read textbooks about botany, agronomy, smallholding, food systems, and the like. So I'm getting there. I'm just being realistic - when I look at job postings id like to fill one day, most seem to strongly desire or require a technical degree (sometimes an advanced degree) in an ag related field. I will try to get into the field without the degree, so that if I don't need to get it I won't have to. But if necessary I will get the degree(s) necessary to make it happen. I figured I should at least have tbe bones of a plan for that contingency. Either way, this is my life's work. Time and money are no object, because this is my top priority.

Thanks for the help everyone, I have a much better idea of how to proceed.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Feb 15 UTC
"want an orange?"

Don't even start with me, Thucy.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
I'm harvesting grapefruits on Monday and Tuesday if you want a few. You pay shipping tho
ssorenn (0 DX)
27 Feb 15 UTC
Where's mine?
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Feb 15 UTC
You do grapefruit now? You really are moving up. Let me know when you're onto watermelon. I'm playing the slow game.
ssorenn (0 DX)
27 Feb 15 UTC
Ooo, when he's a watermelon picker, we will know a watermelon picker
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Also, if this is the field you are truly interested in, I would recommend going for an MS even if you don't need it for the first job you get. The form all education will likely be very helpful and the MS will help you advance into decision-making positions.

Of course, talking to someone in the field should still be your top priority because they will be able to tell you exactly how much an MS would benefit you in particular.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
I've picked some wild melons on one of my illegal nature walks. They had been sitting there since summer, I found them in the dead of winter by the creekside. I washed em in the creek and atr em right up, tell you what. Fuck you gonna do about it
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Feb 15 UTC
What's an illegal nature walk?
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
I tend to agree abge about the MS, I would only get a bachelor's if required to do so. However, I also don't really want to be in a decision making position. I could have pursued that track right out of college as a Foreign Service bureaucrat. I am interested in the technical side so as to be of direct physical assistance. I want to be stationed in the field. An expert, perhaps, but not a manager, unless a manager is what is eventually required of me.
ssorenn (0 DX)
27 Feb 15 UTC
Geting his weed out of the swamp.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
It's where you trespass on an absentee landowner's property and enjoy it illegally, since no one else is doing anything with it. Free-roaming nature walks are often illegal in the United States of the 21st century
ssorenn (0 DX)
27 Feb 15 UTC
Down there you run the risk of getting shot. Then what would we do for our citrus?
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Even in technical fields you have people that make decisions a d people that do grunt work. I'm sure I don't know how agriculture works at that scale, but in the computer industry, I have a squad of technicians below me at the Associate s/BS level that do things I don't have time for. I'm not a manager, nor do I handle business decisions, but I do make technical decisions and recommendations.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
28 Feb 15 UTC
I know that, I'm just saying I'm not angling to be promoted, id rather be the boot on tbe ground
steephie22 (182 D(S))
28 Feb 15 UTC
How about being the upper-boot on the ground though, rather than having to obey that idiot who insists grapefruit is a vegetable?
Thucydides (864 D(B))
28 Feb 15 UTC
I've thought about that and, yes maybe sometimes you have to obey an idiot. But on the other end of it, if you are the boss, you have to rely on idiots to do the right thing, which they won't. I'd rather be at the most direct level, able to influence the world in a direct physical way as much as I can
steephie22 (182 D(S))
01 Mar 15 UTC
What I mean is perhaps you can pick the fruits while bossing around other people to pick fruits.

I guess it matters little though.


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Hamilton Brian (811 D(B))
28 Feb 15 UTC
Potential replacement player needed
May need someone to jump into this game; England is in a pretty tenable position.
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Yonni (136 D(S))
28 Feb 15 UTC
Anyone get Dead tickets?
I know people were discussing earlier about trying to go. I'm currently in queue with ticketmaster - anyone have any luck?
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KingCyrus (511 D)
28 Feb 15 UTC
Only in Michigan...
http://www.upmatters.com/story/d/story/shirtless-men-soaking-up-the-up-sun/25580/gyGS7uqhb0On19dFShBNgA

I literally know these two guys.
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ssorenn (0 DX)
27 Feb 15 UTC
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Sad Day for Star Trek fans everywhere
http://www.aol.com/article/2015/02/27/leonard-nimoy-passes-away-at-83/21147596/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing11%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3 D620253
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Maniac (189 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Maths Q
I'm not great at maths and don't actually have data to even form the question, but I hope you guys can help anyway...more inside.
18 replies
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Hannibal76 (100 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
Replacement
Hey guys. A replacement is needed for 2 games that are still in pre-game.
Bubble Blowin' Baby Hunt
What is it good for?-2
Both games are England
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JamesYanik (548 D)
27 Feb 15 UTC
High Quality World Game
(300 D) bet, WTA, Anonymous, Public Messaging Only
Almost zero chance of this starting, but I'd like to try it!
1 reply
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
The Mind-Bending Dress
http://i.imgur.com/12LBa2V.jpg

What color is it?
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
American Universities penalize Asians in admissions for being Asian
How do proponents of "Diversity" feel about this?

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
27 Feb 15 UTC
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Reliability Ratings Update
Reliability ratings should be complete now.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
27 Feb 15 UTC
REPLACEMENT NEEDED
gameID=155790
Quebec, still in 1st phase, full 24 hours untill next turn
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trip (696 D(B))
26 Feb 15 UTC
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Lusthog Gunboat
A gunboat game where players are prohibited from voting to draw until a stalemate line is formed and held. Game details inside...
22 replies
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jake333 (94 DX)
27 Feb 15 UTC
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Live game
Live game anyone?
2 replies
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pangloss (363 D)
26 Feb 15 UTC
Players Wanted
webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=155958
36 hour WTA, non-anon. I and my friends are playing together. We need four more people.
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
U.S. military vehicles paraded 300 yards from the Russian border
We like our NATO allies.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/02/24/u-s-military-vehicles-paraded-300-yards-from-the-russian-border/
25 replies
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Stans8 (100 D)
26 Feb 15 UTC
Join LIVE gameID=155927
LIVE GAME gameID=155927
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SandgooseXXI (113 D)
26 Feb 15 UTC
FCC Passes some good internet!
Hey all, thought this might be worth discussion:
http://gizmodo.com/fcc-passes-strongest-net-neutrality-rules-in-americas-h-1688204371?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
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SandgooseXXI (113 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
The Gutsy Goose
gameID=155882
Just going to leave that right there...hope to see you in the game!
6 replies
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yassem (2533 D)
26 Feb 15 UTC
I have never eaten a corn-dog
Is it any good?
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grking (100 D)
24 Feb 15 UTC
Donating Blood
I lurk and occasionally ask for advice. Today, I have a question concerning donating blood.
14 replies
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NoirSuede (100 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
Newbie questions
1. What does purple lines mean on the map ? I know that red means move and yellow means support move, but i have no idea what purple is.

2. In ordering support moves, what does the "to....." and the "from...." do respectively ?
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JPS (292 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
Diplomacy / Playstyle
Veiled threats, insinuations, passive aggressive attacks
My question : Do you use them?
What do you think of them being used against you?
Thanks JPS
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
25 Feb 15 UTC
EoG gameID=154077
gameID=154077
EoG to follow
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semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
US Net Neutrality
The FCC is voting on broad internet regulation rules in two days. GOP members of the board have asked that the vote be delayed thirty days and the rules released to the public. Thoughts?

http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/23/republican-fcc-commissioners-ask-wheeler-to-delay-net-neutrality-vote-release-proposal/
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ssorenn (0 DX)
24 Feb 15 UTC
Abge looking for friends...EoG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=154049
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CaptainG (100 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
New here: How do I join a new game?
I've been looking around the site and I'd like to join a game. When I click on the "Games" link I do see a bunch of games. Some are in progress already. Some have "join for x". I'd really appreciate detailed instructions, step by step, click by click. Details are important to me.

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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
24 Feb 15 UTC
Playing partial positions
So, let's say that you've set up a day to play a FTF game, but due to misorders (or whatever), not everyone turns up.
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
18 Feb 15 UTC
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2015 Winter SOW - Recruitment
Hello everyone! I'm pleased to announce that a Professor and Adjunct Professor have graciously offered to teach the 2015 Winter School of War. We are looking for TA's and Students, details within.
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semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Feb 15 UTC
Online Shaming
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html?_r=1

Your thoughts?
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