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gnuvag (621 D)
25 Nov 13 UTC
One more player needed...
One more player needed for this game:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=129597
Password: crumpet
Join if you fancy it...
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SYnapse (0 DX)
14 Nov 13 UTC
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-1 option
All those in favour of a -1 button +1 this post.
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Brewmachine (104 D)
25 Nov 13 UTC
i love you all
I think this is a wonderful community that is a great center of debate. I'd like to commend you all in the glory of God that you are his faithful servants and likens you to Zeus himself. Be grateful unto him and fight for freedom anyday and every day FOREVER PRAISE HIM you are welcome. BREWMAN SIGNING OUT FOR NOW
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tendmote (100 D(B))
24 Nov 13 UTC
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Bismarck, sublety, nuance, diplomacy
Was Otto von Bismarck's foreign policy brilliantly subtle and nuanced, or dangerously unstable and fragile?
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gnuvag (621 D)
24 Nov 13 UTC
A few more players needed....
A few more players needed to join this game:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=129597
Password: crumpet
Join up if you fancy it...
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daniyhungre (100 D)
23 Nov 13 UTC
Does anyone here play Eve online?
I've played the trial and love it but I don't want to be alone. Was wondering if anyone played it here.
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
23 Nov 13 UTC
Standard WTA 36 hour phase Game
So after a live game tonight ( gameID=130059 ) - some of us decided to go for a full length game as we quite enjoyed it.

The two early quitters obviously weren't invited. Not sure if two of the other five of us want to join or not.
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Mapu (362 D)
24 Nov 13 UTC
How do you report evidence of eating?
I was in a restaurant today and two people walked in within one minute of each other. They proceeded to order, wait for their food, and then chew erratically. Needless to say, one of them finished before me.
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President Eden (2750 D)
24 Nov 13 UTC
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Hey SYnapse
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Snowman (187 D)
24 Nov 13 UTC
How do you report evidence of cheating?
I was in a game today (gameID=130191) in which the users playing both Russia and Austria played extremely erratically. Both users created accounts this afternoon, within one minute of each other. Needless to say, Turkey won. Seems to be clear evidence of cheating using multiple accounts. How can I report this?
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yebellz (729 D(G))
24 Nov 13 UTC
Does anyone else here play go (aka weiqi, baduk)?
Lately, I've been really obsessed with this game. Anyone else play?
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shield (3929 D)
24 Nov 13 UTC
Need at least one replacement player
Anyone? Russia has 8 centers.
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dirge (768 D(B))
24 Nov 13 UTC
Nuance
now that we've successfully tackled bulling on web dip. Lets talk about how to have nuanced conversations on this forum . . .
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
23 Nov 13 UTC
The Doctor Who 50th Anniversary Special (SPOILERIFIC INSIDE)
So, yeah.
What did everyone think? Best parts, worst parts, love it, hate it...

I have one part in particular I'm pleased about...
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Octavious (2802 D)
22 Nov 13 UTC
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Australian Sport Report
There now follows a full and comprehensive news round-up of all notable sporting events currently underway in the Australian continent.
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gnuvag (621 D)
23 Nov 13 UTC
Need a couple of players...
Need a couple more players to join a game - preferably 30+ games, decent players who aren't going to NMR or CD -
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=129597
PM me for password if you fancy joining, cheers...
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josunice (3702 D(S))
24 Nov 13 UTC
Most mixed board I have seen...
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ILN (100 D)
17 Nov 13 UTC
Putin33's dream
Behold, putin's wet dream fantasy
http://img.fark.net/images/cache/850/8/8f/fark_8f4rooRNQcnEOQnKAPZ1TPhW42o.jpg?t=t2Hdh8eybg0Gyj51TW2uNg&f=1384750800
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
19 Nov 13 UTC
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Word Ass'o'cia'scion gayme lol
uh, wat wazzat u sayd?
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Triumvir (1193 D)
19 Nov 13 UTC
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EOG's for the Game "Dona Nobis Pacem"
End of Game statements from the players of "Dona Nobis Pacem." gameID=126349
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FolliesOfSpain (113 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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To whateve end. The tale of a shitty game.
This is the story of a game were a E-F alliance was driving to the limit. No stabs, and humilliation.
FolliesOfSpain (113 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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NOTE: The function of this thread isn’t to create polemic. I only want to unburden myself. The mods said that there wasn’t multi-accounting or meta-gaming in that game, and I respect their decision. I can do nothing but accept my defeat... but I must write this!

When gameID=128610 “To whatever end.” Started on 3 Nov, all was looking like an standard Diplomacy game. I was playing Germany and France opened MAO, Bur, and Bel. A bit threatening, but nothing serious. All was going fine, but in 1902 I knew that a F-E alliance was coming, and I tried a risky gambit in autumn to prevent France penetrate further in my homeland. A tactical mistake, and, in Autumn 1904, my last center, Berlin, fell thanks to a support to France by England.

Then, weird things started. France had 10 centers, England only 6. A huge difference, she only took Denmark from that war. I wasn’t angry about my defeat, and I though that the game was normal. How wrong I was!

In spring 1905, France left Holland and Belgium undefended. England had a fleet in NTH, well, a stab is coming... no. England never attacked him, and France never defended those centers again.

Wait, what? Yes, in an average game of Diplomacy, that border would have a lot of tension, but they ignored that, they simply continued their alliance, without stabbings.

In Spring 1907, France left Kiel and Berlin undefended, an English fleet was sitting in Baltic Sea, what the hell is this shit? Obviously, Austria and I reported the game to the mods. The English fleets in NTH and Baltic have done nothing but hold the whole game, touching four FOUR, undefended centers at once. ENGLAND COULD TAKE BELGIUM AND HOLLAND WITHOUT OPPOSITION FOR 8 PHASES!!!

At the end of 1907, France had 15 centers, England 8. Yes, France was seven centers up, and he hasn’t touched England in the whole game.

The phase that pisses me off the most is Autumn 1908, 7 English units hold, one supported a France army to Rumania. What the fuck is this shit? Then, France had 17 centers, England 9.

France won the game in 1910, they had time to convoy an army from StP to Syria. Was that just fun, or were they trying to humilliate dipplayer2004 (Austria)?

The mods replied to me that they didn’t find something shady in the game, but I can’t avoid being suspicious. Are you saying that England is losing the game deliberately because he doesn’t want to stab his ally? Is he an idiot or something?

In my opinion, this game has been boring, nasty and it didn’t follow Diplomacy’s spirit. Assuming that there wasn’t meta-gaming or multis there: what, you dear friends of the forum think about this? Is ethical to form an alliance and do nothing in the game but help the other to get to the 18 centers while you’re literally doing nothing but supporting, convoying, and holding French units, and hold the units that can be threatening your allie’s position? Is this an insult to those who want to play some good Diplomacy? Would you qualify this game as “fair”? Me neither.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
21 Nov 13 UTC
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If you didn't play PPSC this would be less likely to happen.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
21 Nov 13 UTC
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And, to be very clear: no one was cheating in that game, so I'd kindly ask you stop mentioning it. England just has a very odd style of play.
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
21 Nov 13 UTC
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Having gotten a few inquiries in the mod email about this game, I'm interested to hear from other players. One thing that I didn't notice when I first saw the board was that this game was PPSC, not WTA. Some players play for the win, some players play for points, and in this game, it looks like we had one of each in France and England. In PPSC, you often get alliances like this, where one player is content with a "strong second", as it is known, essentially trading the possibility of a solo or draw for the guarantee of points. In my opinion (and probably most of the better players on the site) it bastardizes the game and turns it into the kind of mockery of Diplomacy that we see here.
dipplayer2004 (1310 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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I played Austria in this game, and I would like to air my grievances as well.

Game http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=128610 "To Whatever End"

Started out pretty normal--I was going to try out an Austria/Turkey alliance, and that seemed to be working well. There was an obvious E/F in the west, and England didn't talk to me much, but hey does England ever talk to Austria that much? Neither of them did much talking during the entire game. I felt ignored for long stretches, and their conversation was usually of this sort: "worry about yourself" "stab your buddy Turkey" "you have my permission to die". There was never any constructive communication. Why play the game if you don't want to talk?

As was pointed out, it became apparent in 1905 or so that England was being a patsy for France. I asked the mods to check on cheating, and they reported that there was nothing apparent. But the trend continued. England never did anything to challenge France's sure victory, and France never took any actions to defend himself from obvious English dangers. France walked to a solo victory, and England ended with 9 centers.

To add insult to injury, when it was obvious what was happening, I turned on my Turkish ally and (rather skillfully IMO) pulled all of my forces into Turkey and slowed down the E/F juggernaut for some time. I was determined to survive. I had asked F repeatedly for some concession: what did I have to do to survive? I hate being eliminated. I never got a response. England just seemed determined to kill me. The game could have been over, with the exact same results, several seasons before it was. Those last few years were spent in an attempt to hunt me down and eliminate me. I appreciate that France finally ended the misery and the game.

I am bothered by the way this game violated what I consider important principles of Diplomacy. You don't play patsy, at least not from the start. I understand why the Italian player decided to do so--he was getting his revenge on me and he no real chance to resist the French hegemony. But England was, from the start of the game, nothing but a French patsy. It also, IMO, violates the spirit of the game to hunt someone down for no reason. I can understand going for an elimination if a draw is to be the outcome, or if you are getting revenge for a betrayal. But I had never done anything to England and France. I had tried for the entire game to talk to them, to play Diplomacy, to communicate and negotiate. For my pains I was rewarded with a vendetta.

I will do my utmost to avoid playing in a game with either of these players again.
FolliesOfSpain (113 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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Amen
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
21 Nov 13 UTC
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Dipplayer - I would also avoid PPSC, for reasons abge and I mentioned earlier. Much more likely to encounter a similar scenario.
palesman (776 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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I played France. England and I established an alliance early in the game, begenning with an agreement to stay out of the channel. Choosing to trust another player is always a process, but for whatever reason England and I made that choice. Because of Germany's (admittedly) poor play, I pulled ahead early in the game and England never asked me to hold back so that he could catch up. We just kept working together, and it was fun. The whining and complaining by Germany and Austria were somewhat irritating, but they didn't take away from the positive experience of forming an alliance with another player, holding to the alliance, and enjoying a successful campaign.
dyager_nh (619 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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Points Per Supply Center games encourage less traditional diplomacy play. It rewards someone for surviving.
I personally view surviving as worse than being defeated.
Since PPSC is the default in the game creation it is hard to fine games which are not this unless you make it yourself...so I end up playing in them alot. They are easier to win though since your allies are less likely to stab and are content to be on the "winning alliance"
dipplayer2004 (1310 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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I will avoid PPSC. I had not made that distinction before
dipplayer2004 (1310 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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And France again shows his lack of sportsmanship.
FolliesOfSpain (113 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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I like slow Diplomacy... hard to find slow WTA games, I'll have to do them instead of joining.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
21 Nov 13 UTC
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@Follies

Join the GR challenge I'm doing.
FolliesOfSpain (113 D)
21 Nov 13 UTC
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Ok abgemacht!
Numbat (584 D(S))
22 Nov 13 UTC
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@dipplayer2004: Poor sportsmanship on France and England's behalf? I don't think so. Even after the explanation of PPSC vs WTA strategies, you claim France was unsportsmanlike? I think it's pretty unsportsmanlike of you to make such an accusation at all.

BTW: When I came across this thread, I assumed it was about a Gunboat format game.
dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
22 Nov 13 UTC
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I actually think if anything, the French player played extremely well, and was a good sport. He exploited the Englishman's weakness of being a spineless puppet. He took a risk by leaving his flanks open, but he was confident from his press with England that he was a total nincompoop and wouldn't stab even when it was logical to do so. That gamble paid off extremely well for him, it allowed him to field a larger military against more competent opponents that threatened his solo.

As for England, all I have to say about him is he is a total numbskull that I never want to have the curse of ever playing with him in any game. (Unless I happened to be the first to open press with him, as apparently thats all it takes to get a multi-account quality ally.)
dipplayer2004 (1310 D)
22 Nov 13 UTC
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Haha. Well said, dD Shock.

Dingbat, or Numbnuts, or whatever your name is: I submit for your consideration:

"The whining and complaining by Germany and Austria were somewhat irritating, but they didn't take away from the positive experience."

I am so happy that Palesman had a positive experience. It would have been nice to actually enjoy that game. And whining? It is not whining to request some actual communication. To ask for terms for one's survival. To be frustrated by complete disregard for the situation of another person. You know what would have made all the difference. One, just one press from France that said: "I have England wrapped around my little finger and I'm milking it for all it is worth." One press that said: "I agreed to help England get as many centers as possible before I solo." One press that said ANYTHING.
dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
22 Nov 13 UTC
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^But would that press be in any way necessary for the French to win? No. He has no reason to give you a response. It's frustrating to not get any response in such a situation, but it's also difficult to play properly when you're frustrated.
Strauss (758 D)
22 Nov 13 UTC
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"I personally view surviving as worse than being defeated."

Agreed.
SYnapse (0 DX)
22 Nov 13 UTC
Remind me next time I have to play Battle Royale, to play it with you guys who would rather be defeated than survive.
Sylvania (4104 D)
23 Nov 13 UTC
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What a fascinatingly depressing game. But surely the PPSC argument is pretty spurious when the stakes are that low. England only got ten points for his troubles..
philcore (317 D(S))
23 Nov 13 UTC
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@sylvania, considering he only had 32 D going into that game, that would be like you betting 250 and coming out with 500.

Not justifying his play, I agree with the sentiments expressed already, but as far as the amount won in relation to his total, it makes sense.
semck83 (229 D(B))
24 Nov 13 UTC
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I agree the French player is being a poor sport. It's fine to win -- good for him! -- but poor sportsmanship to complain that the German and Austrian complaints are "annoying." Of course they're going to complain, your ally is playing the game like an idiot.


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Putin33 (111 D)
20 Nov 13 UTC
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To Train Up A Child
Heard of this book? Its methods evidently have led to the deaths of 3 children, one which recently led to a conviction of the two parents involved. Should it be banned? Should the ministry which profits off it be shut down?


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ILN (100 D)
23 Nov 13 UTC
Snowday!
It's snowing in toronnohh!
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DipperDon (6457 D)
23 Nov 13 UTC
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21K Total Pot - BIGGEST GAME EVER - Need 3 more!
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=129929

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Dharmaton (2398 D)
22 Nov 13 UTC
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Live games recently...
are they getting Worse!? ^(•£+€¥#%~"
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SYnapse (0 DX)
22 Nov 13 UTC



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ahyeah (0 DX)
23 Nov 13 UTC
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frontline: cia coverup surrounding jfk
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/biographies/oswald/oswald-the-cia-and-mexico-city/

discuss
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krellin (80 DX)
22 Nov 13 UTC
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Date Night for Putin
It seems that our dear friend Putin is...well...a curmodgeon. I feel bad for the dude, really, and I think it's 'cause he can't get a date. So this is the Putin Needs a Date advise thread. Here's my first offering...a garment that might help with...well...one of his problems...
http://www.dudeiwantthat.com/style/clothing/shreddies-fart-filtering-underwear.asp
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Maniac (189 D(B))
22 Nov 13 UTC
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How do I get a day of the week or a month named after me?
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday etc are so last year and they, together with the names of the months have religious overtones, so I wanted to update them a little but don't know where to apply. Can anyone help?
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Thegatso (234 D(B))
20 Nov 13 UTC
What to do when you are Ally Locked?
So I'm playing this game (one of my current 9), where I am completely surrounded by GOOD allies. People I have talked into turning their backs to me and leaving their pants down. It would be impossible to advance in any direction without violating a DMZ or 100% backstabbing someone.
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