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thmcmahon (100 D)
31 May 15 UTC
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Diplomacy reminder script
I wrote this small script to send a reminder email to our facebook group.

Posting here in case others would find it useful https://github.com/thmcmahon/diplomacy_reminder
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
22 May 15 UTC
Fiscal conservatism vs social liberalism
I'll just leave this here: www.rawstory.com/2015/05/here-are-7-things-people-who-say-theyre-fiscally-conservative-but-socially-liberal-dont-understand
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MichiganMan (5126 D)
31 May 15 UTC
One of the Oddest Games Ever!
gameID=161856

Not many any accusations ... you guys can decide for yourselves, but something STINKS to high heaven!
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
30 May 15 UTC
Reverse rascism
defn: ask-an-mra-anything.tumblr.com/image/101848226593
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
26 May 15 UTC
Feminism, Authoritarianism and Gender
I hesitate to post this, but i wonder where discussion will lead...
Is Gender socially constructed? Is there a difference between gender identity and gender expression? What other issues does this raise?

theterfs.com/2014/05/01/judith-butler-addresses-terfs-and-the-work-of-sheila-jeffreys-and-janice-raymond
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TrPrado (461 D)
30 May 15 UTC
To Revive a Superthread: WebDipia
threadID=1238801
Does anyone remember the nation simulator we tried a couple months back? Is anyone interested in retrying it?
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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
21 May 15 UTC
Why'd You Choose Your Username?
It's a decision we all make, and one we have to life with for the rest of our time on this site; choosing a username. Some choose their own name, their initials, a historical figure or even a reference to a movie or TV show. So I ask all of you, just why did you choose that username you have?
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ZS (211 D)
29 May 15 UTC
Iberia in Classic
You have a fleet in mid Atlantic and army in spain. There's an enemy fleet in Portugal. How to take portugal? I support spain to portugal with atlantic. And fails. huh?? This happens alot to me somehow. I find my self trying to take portugal and fail repeatedly.
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krellin (80 DX)
24 May 15 UTC
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Call Me a Dirty So-n-So.....Game X
Come on all you slack-eyed pathetic bastards. That's right...I"m talking to all you panty-waisted Libtards and other deviant m-f*ers. It's time for another installment of "Call Me a Dirty So-N-So". NO HOLDS BARRED open free-for-all. Sling you insults, be a whiny bitch....but play the best god-danged game ever. SING UP HERE, BIATHCES.
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
30 May 15 UTC
Anonymous website blacklists pro-Palestinian activists
Site seeks to scare off prospective employers.
http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201505271912-0024791

Thoughts?
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Eadan (454 D)
27 May 15 UTC
Before the First Move
Could some of the experienced players weigh in on this? How do you handle the opening diplomacy session that precedes the execution of the inaugural Spring phase?
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
23 May 15 UTC
Final Game of the Leagues is Up!
All the links and info you need for joining is on the tournaments website

https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/The-php-League/leagues-winter-2015
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Kruschtschow (96 D)
29 May 15 UTC
What means gunboat
I find some references to gunboat games, but nowhere in the help section a hint, what type of game is to be expected in a gunboat game.
Any hint?
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OB_Gyn_Kenobi (888 D)
26 May 15 UTC
The Newlywed Game
My first invitational game.
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
27 May 15 UTC
FIFA
US brings down the hammer
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shankz143 (0 DX)
29 May 15 UTC
Joining This soon to be epic world game
the adventures of the world
join it or be square. anon world game with 10 D to join and all chats allowed along with winner takes all
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jbalcorn (429 D)
13 May 15 UTC
Why hidden draw votes?
Can someone explain how hidden draw votes changes the game enough to make it a variant? It just doesn't seem all that interesting to me.
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yassem (2533 D)
28 May 15 UTC
Ok guys, I honestly need your help
And it is not about webDip...
It's about econometrics
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JECE (1248 D)
28 May 15 UTC
watch Bernie Sanders' kickoff speech
Speech: https://berniesanders.com/news/bernies-announcement/
Photos: https://go.berniesanders.com/page/share/launch-photos?source=em150527​​

That is what a real politician sounds like!
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DJEcc24 (246 D)
12 May 15 UTC
Nostalgia
Just got back onto webdiplomacy after maybe 4 years of absence. Some of you folk are still here posting. So glad I wandered back. Going to play a few games.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
22 May 15 UTC
Going out to vote today...
...but is it a good thing?

In case you don't know; Ireland is having a marriage equality referendum today. Yes will mean marriage between gay couples becomes a reality, a No will deny them their fundamental human rights.
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
05 May 15 UTC
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Mafia VIII: The Fellowship of WebDipia
See inside for details
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WardenDresden (239 D(B))
25 May 15 UTC
Bored to death of rereading again. Made it to the end of p74. Honestly, All three of guak, y2k, and Vash look like they could be scum to me. And guak+Vash especially have a LOT more posts in the latter half of the game. But the continuation of each summary below:

y2k:

P45 Asks for reiteration of arguments about phil being scum. Points out Squigs' reaction to ghug's joke regarding Maniac. Calls ghug+Squigs's voting pattern meant to stir up discussion. Disagrees with reasons for finding phil scummy.
P46 Says Yassem is tunneling.
P47 Says he's not sold on Squigs, but finds Squigs more scummy than SG. Votes Squigs. Wants to "get a counter-wagon going" Challenges guak telling meme to change votes.
P48 Votes meme right after I do. Then says he is torn.
P49 Asks for a vote count.
P51 Votes SG for "trying to survive at all cost." "I feel comfortable with this."
P58 Checks in. Says we can't rely on either the WW or the vig to kill Chaqa and votes Chaqa. Concludes that lynching Chaqa now is better.
P63 Promises rereading a few players. Says he looks scummy. Hopes he can guide the town to the last two scum. Basically promises to be more vocal.
P64 Says he'll move his vote if Yoyo agrees too.
P66 Says the reason he switched was to go along with the town majority.
P68 Says he's lost. Feels certain phil is not scum. Says only way phil is mafia is if Vash is too, and says it's unlikely. Says phil can't be mafia more.
P70 Says he has strong feelings that both ghug and guak are innocent and that the two remaining scum are letting it happen. Votes Yoyo. Says a Yoyo+yassem team would make a lot of sense, pitting the louder townies against each other.
P72 Says he's surprised more people aren't calling for his head. Tells people to let him know if he can clarify anything.
P73 Says he doesn't like any of the people with 2 votes but says he couldget behind voting DO and does so.


guak:

P46 Tells me meme will flip scum, and when he does he'll be right. Says meme failed to answer anything against him satisfactorally.
P47 Says he is accusing meme not on his lurking, but based on ND's defense of him combined with his coaching the WW. Tells y2k not to vote Squigs since y2k claims he doesn't think Squigs is scum.
P48 Insults y2k's activity level. Says voting for a wagon because it is the lesser of two evils is scummy. Pushes SG about his switch in views on Squigs.
P49 Accepts meme pointing out scummy behavior from Vash. Calls Vash out on his "all 3 are town charade"
P50 Says Vash is setting himself up for an "I told you so" situation and the savior of the future.
P52 Calls meme out on a contradiction regarding WW talk.
P53 talks about WW.
P54 Explains that fake RB claims are common, tells Yassem "info" kills are worthless. Defends Squigs. Weighs in regarding ghug's attackign Squigs and squigs' townread of ghug.
P56 Says tv is right, and voting Chaqa is a waste. Says ghug and I should agree with him about killing someone OTHER than Chaqa.
P57 Calls ghug an idiot. Calls the whole town idiots for voting for Chaqa. Tells people to ignore Chaqa.
P58 Says mafia are acting crazy if they're giving up Vash and Chaqa for a WW reveal. Also says this mafia is crazy enough to do so.
p59 Says there's no risk to keeping Chaqa alive. Points out Chaqa is hardly a threat, nor his potential advice.
P60 Continues ranting about not killing Chaqa. Votes ghug based on town ghug not advocating for killing Chaqa. That's his whole argument. Says ghug is trying to screw us over.
P61 Says Chaqa is not a threat more.
P62 Says DO may be right about mafia being quiet, but creates suspect list of: Squigs, meme, ghug, and y2k.
P63 Says Chaqa is already out of the way. Says ghug is so obviously scum we all need to kill him.
P65 Says it was optimal strategy but not optimal target. Calls out Yoyo for his switch. (What about y2k??)
P66 Thinks 2/3 of the mafia voted for Squigs at end of day. Thinks y2k might be WW. Forgot mrh was still around. Night ends. Votes Vash.
P67 Says Town Vash shouldn't have claimed VT. Says Vash is either mafia or WW. Calls Vash's vote OMGUS. Says Chaqa could only offer Vash as the vig even though Vash is scum. Says that because it makes sense Chaqa would be fooled into thinking Vash is vig, he's scum. Says Vash makes the most sense as scum with meme and Squigs flipping town. Says he will reread mrh, Yoyo and phil. Claims no visits.
P68 Says mafia are as interested if not more interested in finding WW than town. Questions ghug's motives for voting Squigs. Insists the only thing making squigs scummy was his position on keeping Chaqa.
P69 doubles down on his ghug vote citing the vote switch onto Squigs. Says he tried to end the discussion a while ago. Says the case on him is a stretch. Says the reason I looked scummy earlier was meta from last time I was scum. Now thinks I'm town. Calls ghug's whole case a web of lies. (Recheck this page to see if/how much of ghug's case is actually wrong)
P70 Tells ghug to die with dignity. Says yoyo is scum with ghug. Continues to call ghug a liar and scum.
P71 Tells Yoyo his theory is wrong. Says he as mafia would've killed "the big talkers" at night a long time ago to stop conversation. (That's exactly what it looks like happened though.)
P72 Calls ghug a liar about guak bragging after Squigs died. Calls Vash's scum theory BS. Calls Vash scum for lying. Says his cases on Yoyo+ghug are forthcoming.
P73 "Rebuts" ghug's case. Says DO looks townie. Says DO has contributed more than phil or y2k or Yoyo. Claims early silence was just being busy. Says Vash's theory about mafia trying to lynch him is insane.
P74 Says ghug is scummy and OMGUSing him. Says his votes weren't wasted while ghugs were anti-town. Agrees with DO that mafia should be sitting back doing nothing.


Vashta:

P40 Claims the RB, saying he had a fulfilling evening and votes Flum.
P48 Shows surprise that Squigs is up for lynch. Says he's back for EOD. Finds Squigs town, is unsure about SG. Calls me "hella scummy all game long" and votes for me. (Right after my test vote on meme.) Vash says he doesn't like this lynch at all. (Meme leading)
P49 Vash says he thinks a townie will die no matter what. (meme, SG, and Squigs) Asks SG if he wants to die. Says he hasn't read up on the day. Lists me, DO, ghug, and Flum as his top mafia suspets. Says he hasn't read too much. Asks guak how his statements are a scumslip.
P50 Says I am "fucking obvious scum" Votes SG right after SG switches from agreeing with him to voting for him.
P51 Misunderstands my statement that the wagon against him came up like magic.
P52 Mentions vigilante action again. Says working with the WW is a bad move. Explains his lack of analysis as lack of time. Blames finals.
P55 Asks for no end votes. Votes Chaqa. Claims RB. Chaqa outs Vash as vig and calls his team useless.
P56 Says he loves watching Chaqa squirm. Thinks he is soft-cleared. Plays up that he's vig and doesn't expect to live. Says the problem with leaving Chaqa alive is the WW saving him for later.
P57 Continues to act like he's going to die. Acts paranoid about what Chaqa might contribute to his team overnight.
P58 Says mafia aren't actually down Chaqa yet. Again fears what Chaqa might do at night.
P59 Questions my comment about Squigs scrambling. Says Chaqa IS a threat in his potential advice.
P60 Insists the WW no incentive to kill Chaqa. Says Chaqa may well be a mafia leader. Also says the argument of whether or not to kill Chaqa will cost us valuable time.
P61 Says Chaqa is a threat more. Refuses ghug's idea.
P63 Says only scum can survive the night. (Vash, are you claiming scum now?)
P64 Calls out ghug's vote move. Sets himself up for another "I told you so." And delivers.
P65 Says he is going to be RB'd until he dies. Is now confident 2/3 of me, meme, and ghug are scum. Tells Chaqa to Fuck off. Says the people who suggested Squigs was scum are scum. Says he's right.
P66 Apoligizes for being less active. "If [he] dies for whatever reason" (Almost as though he knows he's not?) Night ends with 3 dead. Vash says it's awkward. Adds: "Mafia know it, may as well say. I claim rb."
P67 Votes guak.
P70 Says we lost the only person who cna kill the WW. (I don't really understand this.) Promises a long skim of the game.
P71 says he thinks it makes more sense that on D1 ND was bussed for mafia y2k. Says he finds it odd that "a certain group containing Chaqa" almost lynched him. Votes DO. Points out that y2k's vote clinched the vote in favor of SG over Vash. (He seems to be saying y2k saved him.) Tells DO guak is mafia. Says DO is mafia. Doesn't understand why DO thinks Yassem is scummy. Posts some reads.
P72 Promises a case in the morning. Calls a guak+DO scumteam. Tells guak mafia lie.
P73 points out DO misunderstanding my vote on her. Says: "Notice: I could be wrong about guak or DO being mafia, but I doubt that both of them aren’t mafia." And concludes he is okay with voting for either. Whole case is prior to P30 and blames internet crapping out on him for why it's short. Calls guak out for being quiet until Chaqa was revealed.
P74 Pushes DO more.
WardenDresden (239 D(B))
25 May 15 UTC
Also, TV, can you weigh in? Can you confirm you are willing to listen to people?

y2k, if you are innocent, fucking prove it by doing something, ANYTHING, worthwhile. ##VOTE y2k.
@WD: Why did you vote guak anyway, you didn't even pressure him after you did so?
RagingIke297 (142 D)
26 May 15 UTC
Official Day 7 Vote Count Update:

Guak(2): tvrocks, VashtaNeurotic,
y2kjbk(2): Guak, WardenDresden
WardenDresden(1): y2kjbk

You have 22 hours remaining
@tv: Where are you?
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
y2k case:

p3: y2k admits first posts look scummy. First post said let's lynch scum. Don't know what is so scummy about it, but it is interesting that y2k admits to its scumminess after Yoyo calls him out on lurking after. Maybe feeling that someone caught on to his scum game plan early on?
p7: ND posts comments on what y2k has done. Gives no opinion. ND gives opinions in all other reads but WD.
p14: ND reads y2k as neutral, same as Chaqa
p15: Chaqa asks if voting for y2k is a good idea. Scummy as hell.
p16: ND posts this gem:
'@Y2K: Last time (if remembering right) I saw him post was on Page 4. Since then there have been a lot of questions. Where have you been? Why haven’t you posted? Please answer the other questions the players have asked you!

I do think that I am being targeted, why? Because I attempted to do some reads which very few others have done. Obviously my accountability plan did not go over well and I am not going to pursue it at this time. My vote for MINT was before I knew he would be modkilled so I am ##UNVOTE MINTBOY4. (note the moderator cleared this up for me when he stated it)

I don’t yet have enough to make a case against Squigs. I am torn on him. There is something really odd with Yassem and Y2K. I am suspicious of both after re-reading their posts. I don’t want to appear to be getting on a bandwagon at this time, but I suppose I have to vote, right? So until Y2k answers his questions I am voting for him. If he does and they are explained adequately I will go to my number #2 on my list and that is Yassem'

p17: y2k posts this gem:
'wow, sorry about that guys, life distracted me and i completely forgot about this game for a bit there. I'm not mafia, but as someone who has lurked mostly all of Day 1, I get the wagon on me, although you can be sure mafia is pushing it or just letting it happen. wouldn't be surprised if the push on me was to save ND. ##VOTE ND. that's all I got, I'll try to be more active if i live but honestly i can't make any promises. got a lot of life distractions now i wasn't anticipating when i signed up for the game.'
p17: Chaqa keeps defending y2k
p17: ND and y2k interact a lot. Very scummy
p17: Chaqa tries to start a yassem wagon. Important I would say.
p18: ND states he is willing to follow yassem wagon.
p18: Chaqa continues to defend y2k and push for yassem.
p18: Chaqa eventually moves to ND when he realizes yassem is not happening. Move to save y2k, the ninja/hooker?
p19: Chaqa continues to push for ND/yassem
p19: ND final thoughts:
'1) Look at the fury Chaqa defended Y2K and this only occurred when Y2K was set to be lynched.

2) Look at how Y2K only came on when he was set to be lynched and didn't really answer anything.

3) Look at Yassem's odd behavior today which attracted all of our attention. Also looked at how his 'random' vote was me who at the time had the biggest bandwagon.

4) When the dust settles look at those three. If I don't go today then let's see if Y2K is guilty if so then we can deduce that Chaqas was teaming/buddying with him. That will tell us, townies, a lot and make a good case for Day 2.'
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
Alright I am now entirely convinced y2k is scum after rereading Day 1. I had a nagging question in the back of my mind that I asked once or twice after day's end and that was never answered. I forgot about it but some time, but rereading I found it again.

I wondered why ND had not fakeclaimed. I was told that because ND left at a time when he was winning the vote and perhaps expected y2k to be lynched. I find it curious that ND posted his 'final thoughts' meaning that he was pretty sure he was going to die. That tells me that he knew the 8-7 for y2k was fake and thatthere was at least one, if not two, mafia that were voting for y2k and would switch to him if necessary to rescue y2k the ninja/hooker who would undoubtedly be more important than the janitor.
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
So, my conclusion is that ND did not fakeclaim because he realized it would only get his mafia buddy y2k killed with 100% certainty and chose to die himself over killing his pal. Thus, y2k is mafia. Likewise, the certainty with which ND posted his final thoughts tells me that at least one mafia was voting for y2k at the time and that ND expected a switch if no townie switched first.
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
Correction, vote was 7 -7.

From page 19:
y2kjbk(7): DeathLlama9, VashtaNeurotic, Ghug, Yoyoyozo, DemonOverlord, Squigs44, ND
Squigs44(1): WardenDresden

Looks to me like ND expected potential mafia buddy Vashta to switch from y2k to him or potential mafia buddy WD to be the tiebreaker vote.
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
My cases on Vashta and WD are coming soon. Need way more than just Day 1 toread those two, but so far I am terribly confused. Not sure at all who may be y2k's partner in crime.
@guak: You are convinced someone is scum based on only one day's worth of information?
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
Yes, all you need on y2k is right there. If you read Day 1 knowing the alignments of Chaqa ND and yassem, and can come out of it thinking y2k is not scum, you are probably not reading right. My summary above shows perfectly well that y2k isscum and that Chaqa and ND tried to make the yassem wagon happen to save BOTH ND and y2k. It also shows that Chaqa tried mightily to shift the vote away from y2k in an effort to save him. Why put such a late effort to save y2k over his mafia buddy ND? Because ninja/hooker is more valuable than janitor, and thus y2k was more valuable for the mafia cause than ND.
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
Also, it is not like y2k has done a whole lot more than lurking for the rest of the game...
WardenDresden (239 D(B))
26 May 15 UTC
Vash, I voted guak at the same time I voted end. I just wanted this thing to be over if these cases aren't going to matter. I'm becoming convinced again that the cases don't matter, but can you seriously tell me that y2k's complete absence ISN'T scummy? The summary of his actions is literally less than half the size of either you or guak. He hasn't produced a single original thought, and what he does have really looks like he's scum trying to avoid interacting with anyone as much as he can.

If tv isn't even going to interact or respond I'm going to move back over to guak and vote end again because all this is pointless unless either you are innocent and convinced to move to y2k, y2k is innocent and moves to you or guak, guak is innocent and gives up the game and votes for himself, or tv shows up and does more than just park his vote.

As I vaguely recall yk2's from the UK, so some of his inactivity would be time-zone related, but still. There are limits. He feels like DL from the game where he literally posted the bare minimum to avoid being modkilled.
@guak: Literally if you base your entire read off of one day you can make anyone look townie or scum. Like the case against Squiggs.
WardenDresden (239 D(B))
26 May 15 UTC
Guak, for you to spend all this time supposedly case-building and only produce that is ridiculous. There is a lot more to y2k than just that. Also, saying that ND and y2k interacted "a lot" on page 17 is a bit of a stretch. In comparison to y2k's other interactions, sure, but it was literally only 2-3 posts.
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
@WD: I am building my cases on you and Vashta that are already thrice as long as y2k's each. I decided to post y2k's ahead because it is so obvious that he is scum from those posts.

@Vashta: Day 1 is always the most educational one because it is the one that happens before mafia start talking to each other and utilizing a strategy. It means that Day 1 is when most mafia mistakes are made.
@WD: (this all assumes you are town btw) Do you believe that I am mafia? If so, how would it make more sense for me to be partners with y2k or guak?

Also remember, if I am mafia and y2k is as well, why didn't I just vote for you yesterday?
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
@WD: funny that you mention y2k's timezone. Chaqa made that exact same post during Day 1
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
@Vashta: why are you defending y2k?
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
@Vashta: how does who you voted for yesterday have anything to do with whether you are y2k's teammate or not?
@guak: Well, you see guak. I am 85% sure you are scum. I'm trying to make the argument that 1. I am not mafia and 2. Even if I was, I wouldn't be mafia with y2k
By this logic, if WD is town, it only makes sense to vote you.

What I did yesterday matters because if I'm mafia, and WD is town, I can vote for him, putting the vote at 4 for WD (assuming y2k votes) and 3 for y2k. Yaseem wouldn't want a tie so if he showed up he would have to vote WD. This would clearly be an optimum play as WD is a really good town member and it would have shot down YoYo's Vash-WD pairing. Instead I voted YoYo, why would mafia Vash do that?
@guak: I.E it means Vash-y2k isn't a viable mafia pairing. Leaving Vash-guak, guak-WD, WD-y2k, Vash-WD and guak-y2k. Which means if you are town, chances are you should be voting for either me or WD.
@guak: Actually, you can still vote for y2k, it just implies a WD-y2k mafia from your standpoint.
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
Why wouldn't you? That is a very WIFOMy argument. If you had voted WD it would had been scummy as hell (if WD is indeed town, which I am not sure either). Instead youstarted a wagon on Yoyo that got yet another townie killed. How was that a townie thing to do again?
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
I still think a Vashta-y2k pairing makes a lot of sense and I do not understand your logic at all. In fact, right now I am leaning more towards a Vashta-y2k pairing than any of the others from what I have read
@guak: How would voting for someone who still has a lot of heat on him "scummy as hell"? Even if they flip town there is still justification, one could argue that it looks much scummier to throw a wagon onto YoYo who wasn't even on the ballot than anything else, which would be a very dumb thing for mafia-Vash to do. And btw, you make arguments about mafia-guak as well (I believe), so calling this WIFOM and not your own arguments WIFOM is kinda contradictory.
@guak: Once again if I was paired with y2k as mafia, then I would have voted WD easily yesterday, especially since the vote on you got no traction. Voting YoYo put an unnescesarry spotlight on me, the only logical reason for me to go after YoYo if I was mafia, would be if I was paired with WD and YoYo was right. Otherwise I simply find him scummy and vote for him. Mafia are all about controlling who votes near the end, and letting a town WD live when I could get him killed (assuming I was mafia) makes no sense.
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
I am saying that you saying that a mafia pairing of you and y2k is unlikely based on one phase's vote is completely ridiculous. The only argument about 'mafia guak' that I have made is that you would be dead by now, and I stand by it since you have been tunneling hard on me. There have been several phases where I would had surely killed you. The others were defenses from ghug's attack were ghug himself was using WIFOM arguments so I countered with another WIFOM argument - the logical defense.

If a Vashta and y2k pairing is not possible like you claim then bring in the piles of evidence, because what I have seen all points towards it being the most likely.
guak (3381 D)
26 May 15 UTC
@Vashta: in fact one of the most damning pieces of evidence that a y2k Vashta pairing is very likely is how y2k's last minute vote on sammitch helped save your ass on D3.

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wjessop (100 DX)
28 May 15 UTC
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Tony Blair finally quits Middle East envoy role
It took him 8 years to achieve all this...
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Kruschtschow (96 D)
28 May 15 UTC
movement from Kiel to Belgium on classic map?
On a game I looked at (for learning) I saw a movement order from Kiel to Belgium. How is that possible?
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Teufelhunden45 (100 D)
27 May 15 UTC
Quick Game
Anyone want to play a quick game???
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rfarkas77 (0 DX)
27 May 15 UTC
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Favorite Quotes
I've always enjoyed little concentrated nuggets of wisdom and any opportunity to expand my collection. What are some of your favorite quotes?

From Benjamin Franklin's autobiography:
"So convenient a thing it is to be a reasonable creature, since it enables one to find or make a reason for everything one has a mind to do."
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ssorenn (0 DX)
26 May 15 UTC
Looking for help
Anyone know about the Oculous Rift? I know Samsung makes a similar product, and thoughts here?
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JimTheGrey (968 D(S))
16 May 15 UTC
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Weasel Moot, June 13-14
Weasel Moot tips off four weeks from today. Still plenty of time to make plans to join us.
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potatoinmymouth (958 D)
25 May 15 UTC
Just a quick question
Is it possible to convoy an army to Hawaii in Empire IV?
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
26 May 15 UTC
Rock and Roll
I'm going to see The Dictators play tonight. They don't visit the UK much so it's a show I've been looking forward to. If you don't know 'em, you should!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG_FuCtb07Q
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