Russia, Turkey, I would love to ally with either of you, but I would just as soon ally with both and as Italy endorse a full on juggernaut between the two of you. You two have the rare opportunity to sweep across Austria and split its centers up with Italy's blessing. I'll keep Austria completely immobilized and helpless against your coordinated push. You two just need to make amends and get your crap together.

Turkey, move Cons to Aegean Sea and I'll move Tunis to Ionian. You can probably take Greece all by yourself, but I'll even make the push overkill and add support from Ionian to get you in there.

No.

Lmao Manwe wtf is your goal here?

Manwe: "Obviously I'm pro-Austria"
Also Manwe: "Okay so what will it take to get you to help me invade Austria?"

(Turkey obviously fighting Russia)
(Both people claiming to be Turkey vocally seeking alliance with Austria)
Manwe: "Alright Turkey so I'd like this anti-Austria move from you"

I just want to note that if Prado were actually Turkey, he'd definitely shut up and let me do this for him. That he persists proves that it's me.

Ghug, I really don't know. I'm making this shit up as I go.

TrPrado and ghug (TrPhug) you have been very persistent in making outreaches to me, in the lead up to this set of moves. And you have made some compelling points. Russia has been absent, for lack of a better term.

Turkey, I hope that my diplomatic overtures towards Russia have not soured the potential for a relationship between us.

Italy, get bent. Manwe, if your are indeed Italy, get bent twice.

Actually I'm Turkey.

Whoops, there I go posting from her account again.

Nope. Neither DemonTrPhug or TrPhugOverlord sound right to me. You are out.

We're clearly TrugD'or'.

Jenga,
I've addressed the key issues as they've come up. I don't think that qualifies as being absent.
The key fact is that if Turkey gets Sevastopol and Romania, just what do you think is Turkey's next center? Itlay will be a MUCH better ally for him than you will be.

Meanwhile, I can help you protect your backside in a way Turkey can't and still have independent direction to move in.

You requested I stay out of Galicia, and i'm happy to do so. however, making that work gets a lot easier if Budapest can support me into Romania so that I don't need to be in Galicia. THAT is a benefit that Turkey can't offer also. Futhermore, I can help you into Bulgaria. That'll be a faster build than Turkey can offer.

So, I hope Austria's outreach has soured the relationship, because both Austria and I need you dead.

You can tell I dont have much hope for TrPrado making peace with me, since he's kind of told me to get bent since the get go.

{that's not to say I wouldn't listen}

What's a benefit I can't offer? You not being in Galicia? Sounds more like you're threatening him than actually offering something.

How are you going to get him into Bulgaria? It'd be three on three, and his fleet would be stuck in Greece instead of working on the Italian, which wouldn't be the case if my army left Bulgaria.

How would you have any more of an independent direction to move in than me? I have you, you have me. I also have Italy, whom Austria would very much like to see me pressuring.

Your arguments lack weight.

Feel free to tell him you'll support him to keep him out of Gal. Just do the right thing with your moves.

Ghug, you're Germany?

I take it you're suggesting that I work with England, then? Having you argue against me isn't super friendly.

It's not at all clear that Turkey takes Black Sea. Of course, if Austria wants to attack Bulgaria, he can take it if Const supports that move. Maybe that's for the best. Either you get bulgaria this turn, or you get it next turn

I'm Turkey. I was lying. Prado still is.

And I have Germany (ghug) and England. Turkey can only realistically head into Austria. That's basically Diplomacy 101. It can work for Austria and Turkey to work together, but in reality it never works out.

Maybe Jenga has better luck of it.

Well, Ogion, you have asked me to support you into Rum. I responded, can I support Sev into Rum. And you suggested that I support you into to Rum. So that is where the confusion lies.

AT is a perfectly fine alliance. It probably benefits Austria long-term, but so does any alliance with Austria because Austria's amazing. The "natural enemy" BS is terribly uncompelling.

Oh, gotcha. I missed that.

We could do that, but that cedes Black Sea to Turkey, which I'm reluctant to do, since taht makes Bulgaria difficult to take. If Warsaw heads to Ukraine and Ukraine to Romania, you can attack Bulgaria or support Ukraine to Romania at your option, since guessing right nets us both.

England, seeing how Germany has gone from being peaceful with respect to me to being a hostile entity sticking his nose into rallying the southern powers against me, I think we'd both be well advised not to trust Germany in any way, shape or form. it's only a matter of time before he switches to work with France against you. He is the Littlefinger of this board. I suggest we go Stark on him.

#notallgermans

@Ogion, Germany has not done that, I haven't said a word to them and didn't bounce you out of Sweden. Like I said Uber, I'm with you

Just ghug

I would prefer to not see any army in Rum.