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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
20 Sep 12 UTC
Six-ty nine digits
Only 596969 games to go until we can play gameID=696969
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Ulysses (724 D)
22 Sep 12 UTC
Sublime Diplomacy Commentaries
He's too dignified to post this here himself I think, but Triumvir's webdip commentaries are fantastic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=813S6_MfaHs&feature=g-u-u
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
19 Sep 12 UTC
How Can You Get To 270 Without "The 47%," Mr. Romney?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/18/mitt-romney-47-percent-full-video-_n_1893615.html
1. Reactions, at all, to that 47% comment?
2. There is some truth to the comment, but was it politically-wise to make?
3. Saying that they're not the one's he'd worry about...how do you DEFEND a statement telling half of America you're an irrelevant leech to Mighty Mitt?
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Yonni (136 D(S))
19 Sep 12 UTC
MODS - please check email
Don't normally do this but there's some time sensitive things that we'd love you guys to help with.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
21 Sep 12 UTC
Brown v Warren
Not much coverage of this because of the presidential debate, but I'd like to know your thoughts.
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jcbryan97 (134 D)
19 Sep 12 UTC
Lawyers, guns and money
In the past we've had games where all players were attorneys or law students. It was fun. I'd like to set it up again. Perhaps two games; a full press and a gunboat.
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
18 Sep 12 UTC
Finally
Praise the lord http://webdiplomacy.net/profile.php?userID=32892
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Riphen (198 D)
21 Sep 12 UTC
Greatest thing I have ever done on this site.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=100044

I put in the last vote. Please look at messages in global chat :P Trollllllllllllllllllllllll
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
21 Sep 12 UTC
This one drives the math people crazy
If I had a dollar for every dollar I had, I'd have one dollar.
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icepebble (109 D)
21 Sep 12 UTC
Question
How do I find the game link of a game I am playing in? I am sure all you knowlegable forum folks can help me out here.
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Infected (0 DX)
21 Sep 12 UTC
1 more 5min left till start
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=100052
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krellin (80 DX)
20 Sep 12 UTC
Encourage Smoking - Save Money
Sure, smoking causes disease and statistically speaking kills you at an early age, possibly after radical cancer or breathing Treatments…but “healthy” people linger on, end up having multiple surgeries before they die, etc. In reality, smoking saves health care costs and should be encouraged. Plus, YJ likes it and should indulge…die happy!
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lmlkyhdh (204 D)
20 Sep 12 UTC
Email notifications?
Does anybody know if there is a way to receive email notifications when a game progresses to the next phase?
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
20 Sep 12 UTC
EoG: Pinball wizards
A swashbuckling Turkey!
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
03 Sep 12 UTC
Dutch thread
I wanted to start a debate on the coming elections, but I guess that's too narrow for a thread topic given most of your aren't Dutch. But how about a general Dutch thread?
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
19 Sep 12 UTC
The Monkey on my Back
(YJ needs your help!)
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jcbryan97 (134 D)
19 Sep 12 UTC
Pc games
I'm in need of suggestions for PC games. Getting a new computer that can play current titles (at long last). Have an Xbox for fps type games. Looking for strategy/simulation games. In the past I enjoyed civ and the total war series.
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
20 Sep 12 UTC
Redhouse is a Maggot Pusswad
Not at all clever with his bullshit, and frankly I'm sick of his attitude. I suspect he blows dudes. He also sucks at diplomacy.
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Conservative Man (100 D)
18 Sep 12 UTC
So I got a question, but I'm afraid it will turn into a debate.
So before anyone takes part, know that this is not intended to be a debate, so please refrain from arguing your political opinions on the matter in the thread. You can state your opinion if you like, but my opinion is set and nobody is going to change that, so it is not worth arguing.
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diplomacyraptor6 (0 DX)
18 Sep 12 UTC
Also, avoid the pro-life girls. Those bitches be CRAZY. I'm pro-life myself and married to a pro-choice women. Who is a newly ordained minister. And I'm a non-Christian evolutionary biology teacher in training. See, life can be fun if you can live with the fact that other people have different opinions then you. If you learn only one thing in college, learn that. Good luck buddy
@diplomacyraptor: Great post. I don't think you wasted your time, even if I do end up ignoring your advice when I'm in college. It's great advice, but I can't predict what I'll do two years from now.
diplomacyraptor6 (0 DX)
18 Sep 12 UTC
You probably won't be able to predict what you'll do or think or believe two years from now because high school is a life-changing and eye-opening time. You DEFINITELY won't be able to predict anything about yourself after freshman year. The act of sticking a bunch of people on the tail end of puberty from all walks of life and differing education, many of which have never lived away from home or with a roommate, together in a big hodgepodge of higher learning, nearly non-existent authority, and living in close quarters together tends to..... change people. Many people drop out. All people go through drastic emotional and mental changes. Surviving it makes you a better person and a proto-adult, but, again, you have to go through a lot of introspective angst to get there. Thanks for listening.

Also? Senior year of high school? Make sure you make your peace with everyone because you will never hear from most of those motherfuckers again, save for like 2-3 people.
In my experience, it all depends on the girl in terms of safe sex practices and abortion. I have many friends who are in many different sororities. All say that among their sisters, many have had abortions, and in some cases multiple abortions. Its really hard for guys to pinpoint this because this is information we will never know. Hell, my own girlfriend told me that she'd get an abortion if she got pregnant. No notification (even after the fact), no consultation. I'd never know.

Also, those ratings for the pill are based on the assumption that you're using it correctly. i.e. Within the same hour, every day. If you fuck up regularly (you being the girl taking the pill) and take it at 8 o'clock one night and eleven the next, well then the pill just might not choose to work for you.
"I'm pretty sure ... going to the beach .. [with] girls, doesn't cost any money."

Read that and try again.
@goldfinger: Well, I don't think sorority girls are a good sample group to reflect on all college girls, so that doesn't really mean much. Also: "Hell, my own girlfriend told me that she'd get an abortion if she got pregnant. No notification (even after the fact), no consultation. I'd never know." If I had a girlfriend who told me that, I'd break up with her on the spot. Of course, I would probably never end up dating a girl who would say that in the first place.
@PE: Okay, a small amount of money if I go with a girl. But if I'm going there to try to talk to girls, it wouldn't cost me any money unless I deliberately wanted to spend it, right?
@CM - every girl who I've dated has held a similar line. Its just what modern, educated women believe nowadays, at least in my experience.
@gf: The division of pro-life vs pro-choice people in the US is around 50-50 from what I can tell. I know for a fact that it sin't 100% women on the pro-choice side and 100% on the pro-life side. And I refuse to believe that 100% intelligent women believe it is okay to end the life of an innocent fetus because of their own desires. Some obviously do (sadly, imo), but there are too many counterexamples.
Wear condoms, dummy. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too many STI's on college campuses these days.
Yeah I don't mean to be rude, but you've got quite the bubble to burst when you get to college. The overall national split is 50/50, but women typically favor abortion access in the first place and more importantly, a college is not representative of the nation as a whole. Reality is that if you're going to take the "I refuse to date anyone who doesn't hold my views on abortion" line, you are cutting out the vast majority of prospective partners, and also narrowing your selection to a pool which will coincide in large part with those women who believe in abstinence until marriage. Sexual liberation, willingness to have sex during college and belief in less restrictive access to abortion all correlate. Those are just facts.
Wear condoms, dummy. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too many STI's on college campuses these days.
You also ought to specify your financial situation here. Like I said, the limiting factor for guys in your category (those who wish to be sexually active) is usually financial capacity. If a weekend trip to the beach, which will run you into the thousands if you're going anywhere worthwhile, is "a small amount of money," then you're operating under completely different pretenses than almost all undergrads - and more importantly, can probably afford just to buy sex outright instead of wasting a lot of time chasing women for the same result.
scagga (1810 D)
18 Sep 12 UTC
Takes the thrill of the chase out of it, wouldn't you think, President?
@PE: I'm not saying that "I refuse to date anyone who doesn't hold my views on abortion", I'm saying that I refuse to have sex with someone who openly admits she would have an abortion if i got her pregnant. My conscience will not allow it.
"The overall national split is 50/50, but women typically favor abortion access in the first place"
I know that. My point was specifically that obviously 100% of women aren't pro-abortion.
"narrowing your selection to a pool which will coincide in large part with those women who believe in abstinence until marriage."
I said this before: only 5% or people are abstinent until marriage. I am quite sure that more than 5% of women won't get abortions if they get pregnant. And that doesn't necessarily only mean pro-life. There are obviously some women who support abortion being legal but wouldn't get one themselves.
@PE: I wasn't talking about a weekend trip to the beach. I live in california. My school of choice is somewhat close to the beach.
I literally meant just walking to the beach. Which is free.
I'm having trouble even conceptualizing what it is you want to do. Long walks on the beach, worrying about political minutia, all of this sounds like relationship concerns. If you're talking about finding and dating someone:

(1) Most of this is irrelevant anyway; you're going to screen unintentionally as it is, so you'll almost assuredly date someone with whom you can have this conversation and come up with an agreeable stance as a couple. If you're talking about a committed relationship, this isn't something you need to discuss with us. In those, you'll end up sitting down at some point and talking about this situation and what you would do, and you'll be fine. What we (or at least I) have been talking about are casual hookups, where sitting down to a lengthy philosophical discussion about the ethics of sexual behavior and its aftermath are rare, and attempts to start them often fail, miserably, to the future detriment of the attemptee in subsequent nights out.

(2) If you're talking about going out and trying to get a girlfriend in college, you need money. Not negotiable. Also not in the cheesy "women only like dudes with like 10 big stacks man" bullshit, but more in the "women are not shut-ins" practical reality. Women want to go out. Going out costs money. If you're not working, that's very quickly going to be a significant budget concern. Please don't keep arguing this point, because you're going to end up making yourself think that you can get by without money, which ends up with you planning around being able to get by without money, which ends up with you being *forced* to get by without money, which ends up with you not going out hardly at all, or going to places so cheap that it reflects badly on you as a dating prospect.

To try to explain better why money matters - there's one thing that influences your ability to have experiences of any kind with anyone: it's how interesting you are as a person. We don't have a lot of time on this orb. Wasting it on someone who's boring?

http://i.imgur.com/GrI0m.gif

Now, there are a lot of ways to make yourself an interesting person. Spending time with people and having different experiences with them makes you interesting. (Potentially. With respect to interior designers, 30-minute discussions on the economics of wallpaper purchase will never be interesting.) Now, you don't have to be a completely dependent sheeple that does what everyone else does so you can spend time with them and become interesting. In fact, as the term "dependent sheeple" rather clearly implies, running with the herd just to do it is a surefire way not to be interesting. But at the same time, *some* of what you do is going to be what other people do. You don't have to go to Reggie's, per se, but you can reasonably anticipate needing to go out somewhere sometimes to have things to discuss. Just take my word for this; I tried the whole "but hurr I'm so good at philosophy politics history stuff that's interesting I can last" angle and... nope. You won't last five conversations before people stop texting you or whatever. You can't be one-dimensional (counting all 'intellectual' subjects as one-dimensional) and succeed in this arena. (Clarification: Reggie's is probably the trashiest, and inexplicably one of the most popular, hangout spots in BR. It's so bad that running a Google Image search for "Reggie's Baton Rouge" will net you a censored image of someone receiving a handjob within the first five pictures. The point is, you don't have to go to some trashy shit dive to be interesting. You can go out with some degree of class.)

So you're gonna have to go places, do things, meet people, all that good stuff that everyone says and you've thought about a million times. Well, again - you don't have to spend a LOT of money, and your geographic area is going to matter. I didn't know you were from the Californian beaches, for instance; that's a lot better than me, for whom the nearest nice beach is a half-day's drive and a state line or two away. If you're in a big city like New York or Los Angeles, you'll probably have public transportation that can get you to all kinds of cool places without spending as much money as, say, here. (Hell, even Baton Rouge, for all its dilapidated infrastructure, has sufficiently serviceable public transportation for students to get to reasonably interesting areas.) Again, you don't have to buy the farm. But you'll need some kind of steady income stream to go out and meet people. The whole "take a women out on five dates for basically nothing" plan that some guys like to float around is (a) 90% bullshit, (b) extremely likely to get you a reputation as a cheap sleazeball if it fails and (c) only likely to succeed if you already have extensive dating experience and know how to make things work. It's okay to be vanilla when you're starting out; in fact it's advisable, until you figure out what works and what doesn't, whereupon by all means you should get creative. But please, for the love of all that's good, don't trick yourself into thinking you can get by on dating without working. It will not work, and if you don't recognize when it doesn't work that that's why it didn't work, you will screw yourself over even further in ever getting it to work later.

@scagga: well yeah, but let's get to making the chase possible before we start sweating the thrill of it...
Alderian (2425 D(S))
18 Sep 12 UTC
Regarding effectiveness of birth control pills, my understanding is that antibiotics can mess up the birth control and not everyone is aware of this and that can lead to pregnancy. Just something to be aware of.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
18 Sep 12 UTC
I think I'm going to sell post cards with exerpts from this thread. #winning
HappyHippo (0 DX)
18 Sep 12 UTC
If birth control pills take (i mean if the girl has no allergy or something against them) and takes them regularly it virtually is 100% safe. Those instances mentioned here in the thread where anyone got pregnant while taking the pill will almost always have happened because of stupidity. Taking antibiotics like Alderian said, taking the pill in the evening and then drinking and puking the thing out, or simply forgetting to take in in time. Pill + Condom... getting someone pregnant then is either sheer stupidity or on purpose.

I am hard pressed not to debate the pro-life stuff but ok. If you are only a bit open minded college will be an eye opener, if you make it that far with your illusions intact. I am shocked what the overall level of sex ed seems to be with CM especially bit with some other aswell. :D
Disregard the whole dating thing advice if you just want to have sex. Its like shooting fish in a barrel. The only thing to worry about is not shooting to many fish and only those worthwhile enough that it does not ruin your reputation.

And on a different note.... muahahahaha!
president eden i think you are over-embellishing the importance of money.

Things don't cost money all the time. There are tons of fun things people an do that don't cost money. Even still, going to the bar or going out to eat is not going to break a bank, especially if you do it say once a week and not every day.

At this day in age a group of college students going out together, or even a couple, people are expected to pay for their own shit. I mean, its super nice to take your girlfriend out for something nice once and a while, but if the two of you are just going to bar Volo for some real ales you are likely going to be splitting the tab. At least, thats how my friends and peers tend to operate.

I am honestly surprised that so many people have disagreements on this subject.
@HH: "If you are only a bit open minded college will be an eye opener" I can't imagine anything being eye-opening enough to get me to support murder, but okay.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
18 Sep 12 UTC
If you are against abortions and unable to care for a child, you should *not* be having casual sex in college. Do *not* trust a random girl to be on the pill or be on it properly. It is only as effective as people claim if taken regularly, which a surprising amount of college women don't do.

Your best bet is to find someone to be in a relationship with first and you can then decide what to do from there.
scagga (1810 D)
18 Sep 12 UTC
The Alderian makes a point.

There are various medications (certain antibiotics, certain anti-fungals, certain anti-depressants) and over-the-counter products (St John's wort) that can induce liver enzymes. Acute alcohol intake too, in fact. This is relevant as it can compromise effective pill cover. Don't discount bouts of vomiting or diarrhoea (they can adversely affect drug absorption).

Not to mention that certain variants of 'the pill' need to be taken within a certain window-time of the day. If understanding pill failure is of paramount importance to you, I'd get familiar with 'what to do when a pill is missed' for the different pills.

Here:
http://youngmongoose.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/liver-enzyme-inducers-and-inhibitors.html

Mertvaya Ruka (275 D)
18 Sep 12 UTC
@ConservativeMan, are you willing to become a father for the rest of your life from a night of sex in college? If not, you either need to become okay with abortions, or refrain from sex entirely.
HappyHippo (0 DX)
18 Sep 12 UTC
Ah well guys don't frighten CM unduly. Women in College are at least as unwilling to become mothers as the men are to become fathers. So they take care of pregnancy protection aswell. So CM just use a condom (maybe read up how to use it properly) and you will be fine. Also, like scagga said, learn about what to do if your condom tears / gets ripped apart because of your awesomly big member.
Sex is too much fun to miss out on it and nothing to worry about if it is consensual between intelligent adults. Stay away from hippies and crazy chicks and nothing bad will happen.
Celticfox (100 D(B))
18 Sep 12 UTC
Yeah never stick it in the crazy.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
18 Sep 12 UTC
Remember this Conservative Due and you'll be fine:

Sexy, Single, Sane. Pick two.
diplomacyraptor6 (0 DX)
18 Sep 12 UTC
Everyone here is giving really good advice Conservative Man, so soak it up. Most girls are using protection. Birth control pills are basically 100% effective unless the girl has some weird genetic disease, companies put the 99.9% warning to cover their ass because a LOT of girls are stupid and think that skipping a day of pills won't hurt or don't know many antibiotics and some other drugs fuck up the birth control chemicals. And because some girls are stupid, always wear protection anyway. Also don't have sex in the first place if you're not prepared for the risk of disease and/or having a child. And don't stick it in the crazy, wait for a relationship. And sex isn't given away for free like beads at Mardi Gras in the first place. All of these points are extremely valid and good points; I'm surprised to find this many sane people in a single webdiplomacy forum.
And HappyHippo didn't mean you need to be open minded and "accept murder". He meant learn to accept other opinions, and don't be aggressive with your own. My college education in Biology and human fetal development only strengthened my pro-life opinion, but I also understand the flaws in the argument. And I'm wise enough now to NEVER bring up pro-life unless you really have to. It's not worth arguing over and losing friends and acquaintances. I may still be young (25) but I'm starting to learn that whole "when you grow up you lose your idealism" isn't as bad and soul crushing as it sounds. It's more like, you learn not to be a dick about your ideals, and you understand which opinions aren't worth fighting about because debates with the random people in your life mean absolutely nothing anyway. You're not a lesser man by not greeting new people with "Hi, I'm ____, I'm agree with ____ politics and I'm _____ religion, and this is how I feel about abortion, veganism, and gay rights:_____". It just makes you less of a dick and nets you a lot more friends. If I didn't stop my high school habits of telling vegetarians, misguided "rebellious" people who don't even understand their lifestyle/ideals, and democrats, republicans, and the uber religious how fucking stupid I think their opinions are, I would've only had 5 friends in college, instead of the 10-20 tight friends and 50+ network of minor friends and acquaintances I did have. I'm sorry if I'm speaking as if I know how you act, but using your political affiliations as your username is the same kind of stupid shit I would do as a high school. It's not stupid because you're conservative. It's stupid because noone sane cares about your political affiliations, and you shouldn't self-identify with your politics like their your sport team or something. You're a Man (er, highschooler) first, Conservative second.

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benguy (157 D)
20 Sep 12 UTC
My Apologies
I'm sorry, everyone, for ruining several live games by leaving/resigning. I realize it's not fair to the other players and I should only play when I have a lot of free time. Again, sorry everyone and I will not do this again. Hopefully you can accept my apology.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
10 Sep 12 UTC
A Lol A Day
Because a joke a day keeps the doctor away, unless you're Gabriel Iglesias, in which case you're probably screwed.

I'll try to keep them non-offensive (just kidding) and clean (just kidding). Generally they won't have anything racist, sexist, or plain dirty about them (just kidding).
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
20 Sep 12 UTC
EoG: The World After SG
"Hello, I'm Germany, and I'm here to help Italy win." Fucking blind idiot.
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dubmdell (556 D)
20 Sep 12 UTC
MODS: please check your in-game messages
I don't normally do this, but there's some time sensitive questions that need answers.
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CapnPlatypus (100 D)
20 Sep 12 UTC
WTA GB-48 EoG
Congrats to The Czech. I figured it was over for a while, but when all doubt was removed in '09, I figured I might as well just surrender, since it was WTA. Excellent play slowing me down while you expanded - a couple of those clutch supports missed, and I might have given you a lot more trouble.

Good game all!
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MichiganMan (5121 D)
20 Sep 12 UTC
JOIN EoG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=99943#gamePanel

No draw from Achilles off of SplitDipshit's CD? WTF?!?
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EmperorMaximus (551 D)
14 Sep 12 UTC
Public Press Game
Hi all, its EM, back after a busy summer, join my game :)
gameID=99521
It's public press because that concept fascinates me, 3 day phases because I'm busy, and WTA because WTA.
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
19 Sep 12 UTC
EoG: Live WTA-GB-62
SplitDiplomat CDed!!! The end is nigh.
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King Atom (100 D)
18 Sep 12 UTC
Imagine...
Can you imagine, on some distant day, that Draug might have more than 100 D?
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
19 Sep 12 UTC
Kick Zmaj's Butt: Full Press
why you should always check a game where you a solo threat and put draw up so you are not a threat...
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
19 Sep 12 UTC
EoG: LIVE -2
Phew... That was close.
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