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Sydney City (0 DX)
24 Apr 12 UTC
Happy ANZAC day holiday to those in NZ and Australia
QUESTION- Is the spirit of ANZAC day still important to you?
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thatwasawkward (4690 D(B))
25 Apr 12 UTC
16 hr moves, 501 point buy in WTA gunboat
gameID=87250
Anybody want to risk a lot of points in a lightning fast game? Eh? EHHHH?!

PM me for the password if you're interested. Thanks.
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ODaly (236 D)
26 Apr 12 UTC
EoG - European Wars 3Day
gameID=74110

It was a well-fought game, and after the pace of the first ten years, I was surprised it ended as soon as it did...
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
15 Apr 12 UTC
Americans work more than Europeans, why?
If you don't know who Edward Prescott is you should. He is a Nobel Prize winner in economics.
Here is a link to his article http://www.minneapolisfed.org/research/QR/QR2811.pdf
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rokakoma (19138 D)
25 Apr 12 UTC
EoG - Gunboat snobs
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Oskar (100 D(S))
25 Apr 12 UTC
Still Need Players
Where's everyone go? http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=87132
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ulytau (541 D)
24 Apr 12 UTC
RIP Torres jokes 2012
It was fun while it lasted...
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josunice (3702 D(S))
25 Apr 12 UTC
Re: Need new England... Can someone extend game time?
Had multi-cheater booted and the turn will change soon. Everyone but one has paused.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=86702
Turn changes at 2:30pm, and the spot quickly becomes less attractive...
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President Eden (2750 D)
24 Apr 12 UTC
So this video really angers me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfkscHt96R0
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Draugnar (0 DX)
22 Apr 12 UTC
So I just finished a KAO cigar...
I kept reading rave reviews and hearing good things from my buddies at the poker room. All I can say is meh. They aren't as good as my beloved A. Fuente Gran Reserva Hemingway's Give me a Signature or a Classic any day, and if I have time, a Masterpiece will do just fine.

http://www.cigar.com/cigars/viewcigar.asp?brand=325
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krellin (80 DX)
23 Apr 12 UTC
Mods...check you mail please
Sorry...need you to check mail.
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Vaftrudner (2533 D)
25 Apr 12 UTC
EOG [LIVE] GUNBOAT "Pleasure" Edition
gameID=87198

SplitDiplomat, thank you for taking those extra TEN YEARS to eliminate me, despite the fact that I turned around to stop the Austrian solo attempt, and despite the fact that there was no way for you to solo. That warms my heart. I hope the extra 11.6 D were worth it.
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rokakoma (19138 D)
25 Apr 12 UTC
EoG - Ceasars, Cleopatras and Alexanders
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
EoG : "H. Kissinger's Allies"
Spot reserved for gameID=81977!
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@zultar: You're correct. I don't know if you'll accept my reasoning, but I responded as I did because while *I* knew what game redhouse was citing, he didn't go so far as to reveal anything that would allow me to connect the game in question just through what he said. It was an anonymous game, and while identities had been discovered by that point, I felt revealing his identity on the forum would be inappropriate. But absent that, I would have no case for proving the metagaming accusation I wanted to make. I was in a paradox: I couldn't call him out on flouting the rules without myself flouting the rules.

So, instead, I declined to point out the connection I knew between this game and that thread, and argued as though the thread were a hypothetical.

On that note, I was also not happy with the fact that apparently everyone spread my identity throughout that game. Something about my press is evidently rather betraying, though, so I'll take fault for that and ask how to make myself more anonymous in anonymous games.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
:'(
jmeyersd (4240 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
well, i swore to myself i would try and get some work done today before doing anything webdip related, but now that it comes to it, I don't want to.
i'm off to go work on a brief eog. back in a minute
redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Don't be too brief though, be sure to make it juicy. And say lots of good stuff about me.
Nerevatus (496 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
@PE,
Yeah, I thought it was inappropriate when I was explicitly told by a player that you were Turkey, especially because it was done in the context of trying to sway my opinion about the current alliance structure. I've never played with any of you before, so this information didn't affect my decisions and the player also apologized when I objected to you being named, so I let the issue drop. Regardless though, I think it's tough when you have an anonymous game that's still an invitational. You know who's in it, just not who's who. I guess it's natural to try to guess, especially when you already know some of the players from before, but there's no reason to discuss your suspicions about player identities with others.

Regarding your comment to zultar, I faced the same dilemma when I posted my opinions about screenshots yesterday. My thinking though was that I could keep my comments general and still contribute to the conversation without inappropriately linking to an ongoing game. I can see how it would be harder for you to express your opinion in that context because you were a direct party to it and not an observer like I was.

In any case, I really enjoyed playing with all of you even though I hoped for a more favorable outcome. This was my first game with a lot of skilled and committed players and I believe I learned a lot from it. I'll put an eog together as soon as I can and look forward to reading all of yours.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Don't be too brief though, be sure to make it juicy. And say lots of good stuff about me..
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Apr 12 UTC
@Nerev - Naming names in an anon game is actually against the rules. The mods have said so on many an occasion. It's OK to try and guess for yourself, but to out someone if you figure it out is not just bad form, but cheating. Just so you know for the future should someone out someone else to you, take it to the mods for an investigation so they at least get a hand slap and told not to do it again.
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Apr 12 UTC
@Eden - you now have a reputation for the screenshots, so anytime you are in an invitational and a screenshot is sent, everyone is going to guess it was sent by you.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
-Thread about an EoG
-38 replies, no EoG. I love webdip.
jmeyersd (4240 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Hey, remember way back when I said I'd write a brief EOG? Well, it turns out my desire not to do work was a lot stronger than expected. Feel free to ignore most of this.

The opening negotiations:
The first few hours of this game were unusually intense. There was a lot of information being thrown around, and I opened contact with every country but England almost instantly. My initial impressions were very positive towards France and Italy, mildly positive towards Germany and Turkey, and negative towards Austria (and England, kinda). F/G seemed very open to a Sealion, which I pushed for, so all was cool in the north and west as far as I was concerned. Italy and Austria clearly had something going, and I was a bit frustrated that I couldn’t find out exactly what it was but had to instead rely on assurances from them both that everything was cool. But I was content that Austria would maintain the GAL dmz, and bouncing Turkey in BLA + a move to UKR should ensure RUM.

The opening years:
Austria lies to me about his ’01 moves, for no apparent reason. His place on the naughty list is confirmed. Otherwise, I’m delighted with how things have gone. Turkey is faced with an obvious Lepanto (because apparently Austria didn’t sell his moves very well?), so he is ‘in my back pocket,’ so to speak. Everyone else has followed through with their promises, and France is in the channel. Groovy.

F/G follow through with the Sealion. Sweet. I’m given a nice out with England after the stab, since I can claim that I agreed to these moves before I got any message from him. This enables me to keep that relationship relatively intact. I waltz into RUM. Italy and Austria botch the Blue Water Lepanto (not sure what happened there), which hands me the initiative in the south. Italy has continued to be less communicative than I would like, in that he refuses to tell me his builds, even though we’re “allied” and it’s not really vital information. I don’t really appreciate the seemingly flawless alliance between A/I; it is not keeping me in the loop and seems unbreakable.

I’m gift wrapped another great excuse. Turkey and I suffer communication breakdown, enabling me to jump into BLA as I promised A/I and claim that it was not too anti-Turkish to Turkey. I don’t know if he bought it, but with the Lepanto underway he doesn’t really have a choice. I think I let England off the hook too easily. Seeing him held at 3 centers, and securing all of Scandinavia for myself, I start to push France to move on Germany and to foster G/F conflict, the idea being to keep them all in one big mess in the west while I pick up the pieces. But I underestimate England’s abilities, and in hindsight I should have waited to create that F/G conflict for another turn or so.

I gamble and decide to just go for it in the south with a convoy to ANK, support to SER, and move to GAL. Biggest move of the game, IMHO. But it looks pretty, and I think that there’s sufficient animosity between T/A, and their positions are so entangled, that I can get away with it. My plan is to support the other non-messed up power, Italy, against Austria/Turkey in order to cool off my expansion, since I know I’ll be facing a coalition soon. I’d also like to get France to a bigger sc count than me so that I can push people that way. The dual-assault serves my purpose of a) creating an imbalance between A/I and b) keeping my closest neighbors in disarray. But I’m banking on Italian aggression toward A/T -- at least one, preferably both.

The Middle Game:
Well, so much for that Italian support. I receive a message from him saying that he still will not move against Austria, at least not for a couple years. That timetable is way too slow for me. More damningly, he refuses my offer of support against Turkey, preferring to support me into Turkish territory. Well, I’m trying to slow down expansion, and this would completely overstretch my position. I suspect Italy knows this and is trying to pull me out too far so that he can swoop to T/A’s rescue and beat me back. I can’t win in the south without any ally at all, so I decide to patch things up with Turkey. That’s fine because he probably doesn’t have any other offers and I’ll always be the dominant partner – BLA is mine as long as I want it.
Turkey does well to resist my trying to push him into BUD. I want to spread out his forces and further entangle everything in the south. I gain a lot of respect for him as he tells me to shove it.
The biggest problem facing me was the emergence of the anti-Russian coalition I had feared. I thought I would have one more year before that came around. Darn. England was far more accommodating of that French fleet in the Channel than I hoped – I agreed to go after Germany on the mistaken assumption that F/E would be a bit less cozy together than they were; I thought E still needed a friend. The curse of being Russia – the big purple giant provoked a reaction I doubt an 8-center France would have. But this is the first phase where I don’t know everyone’s moves, so all things considered no complaints.

Germany’s a bit weird and doesn’t try to help England into Norway. Great, it gives me another turn to work on England, and I convince him to go after an unreliable Germany instead of me. I think that was the right call for us both. And jeez, I actually didn’t want VIE there, but Austria’s gone rogue and I just walk in. So much for trying to lose ground to France. Ideally I’d keep Austria around for a while longer to keep things dynamic, but he stops responding to my messages, so I can’t afford to keep him around. Support VEN-TRI. I had a sneaking suspicion that Italy would be bounced out of TYO, which I was ecstatic to see. Also nice to see the bounced disband in ALB, which again was unconfirmed but expected. Italy finally wants to cooperate, but it’s too late now. The position mandates a R/T. I can keep BLA on the pretense that I want to go into the Med (which I do).
On a side note, this is the first turn where I begin to suspect that F/E relations are much much too strong. England lets slip that he knows I’m going to KIE before I tell him. France must have told him. This is a problem. I redouble my efforts to get France to a) stay in the channel and b) stab England.

Ah, we see the anti-Juggernaut alliance. This is my first genuine shock of the game. I didn’t think it would come so quickly, what with my army having just left ANK. A credit to Italy, to be sure. Very impressive fear-mongering getting that alliance block formed so quickly. Germany is a bit irrational – it’s clear to all the world that he is a pawn of the F/E alliance, but he’s not having it. Frustrating. Still working on France to stab England but losing hope. Glad I went to NTH; this game could have been so much different had I lost ground in Scandinavia there. It was just a feeling that something was wrong from the press – turns out I was right.
G should have been supported to NOR, but there’s clearly a bit of dysfunction in the G/E relationship.

Italy is playing the rest of the board like a fiddle. Nice. But frustrating. Something has to change, i.e. I’ll have to stab Turkey soon, but I’ll let him get into Italy proper and really cram up their position first. I let him take VEN in spring. I hint to Italy that I might be willing to stab Turkey and thus get a bit of insight as to how that situation will play out. I gather that Turkey will have to either disband VEN or force a disband in APU. Either way, now’s the time to stab: before Turkey disbands and can rebuild in CON or after I/F lose a unit and Turkey is stuck with an army in Italy. And my excuses for not dmzing with Turkey have run out.
In the north, E/F are already talking about a 3-way draw. I don’t like that. Too soon. I understand why England would do that, but I think France could have been a bit more adventurous. In any case, I play along and agree in principle – hopefully that will earn me some breathing room before I start my solo-push proper. I expect that England will violate our agreement in Scandinavia, so I support myself back to SWE so as not to lose the fleet.

Going for the solo:
England’s stab is different than I expected; I personally would have tried to force the disband of the fleet. Funnily, I’m delighted that I lost STP; I can earn brownie points by letting E have it for a turn, it assuages fears of a solo for another turn, and it’s indefensible from England’s side. I play along with the 3-way for another turn while positioning myself to blitz Turkey and Scandinavia. Not building in MOS convinces E/F of my good intentions (I think), so the northern army leaves for HOL. The north is very vulnerable now. I’m getting builds to retake STP. England and I negotiate the transfer of KIE; I try to persuade him to let me have it for one more turn, but no dice. I’d rather wait one more turn before making a solo push, but he (wisely) won’t afford me that luxury, so I just go for it and trust to my tactical skills to get me over the line. I’m also pretty sure that one or two of T/I/G can be converted to my side. And the fact that there are so many players left, with so much entanglement between them, lets me think I have a very good shot.

Germany goes to RUH as asked. France takes VEN, Italy takes TRI as designed. That couldn’t have gone better. I/F will have coordination problems now. I think it was a mistake for Italy to disband TRI.
As expected/hoped, I win one of the 3 small powers over to my side. Turkey, with the infamous imagur incident. I think that’s been sufficiently covered elsewhere .

I hope to solo that turn, but Germany screws me over (again) by reneging on his promise to let me into MUN. Very frustrating, since of everyone he has the most reason to throw the game to me.

After Autumn ’08 I thought it was pretty clear that I was going to solo. I wonder if everyone else legitimately believed that they could stop me, or if it was just bluster?

A couple notes from the endgame:
1) It was legitimately mortifying when Germany did not move MUN-RUH as he promised in fall ’09. I’m confident 97% of players would have done so in that situation. I was trying to prep him for that move for ages, but he decided to go for a draw he was never going to get in on instead.
2) I don’t think it was a great idea to force the disband of the French fleet in APU. The Med was my main weakness, not the Austrian balloon Italy was fond of pointing out. In general, I think you could have been more aggressive in the eastern Med.
3) We seemed to have different goals in the north. I was mostly concerned with making sure none of my fleets were forced to disband, and that was what I played for until the last turn. The way I saw it, the “equilibrium position” of that endgame had me in SIL/BER/BOH/TYO(?), so it was going to revert to a classic stalemate line, the difference being that I would have fleets in HEL/SKA/DEN to break it.
4) I was very impressed with the fleet to KIE move. I didn’t anticipate that, and it gave you a good shot at holding the line.
5) Just in reference to Italy’s last comment in global, the last turn was fascinating tactically, probably the best tactical position I’ve ever seen, but I was pretty confident that I would win. The only moves that would have prevented the solo were BAL-BER supported by KIE and RUH s MUN. But even with that, I think I would have won on the next turn, since BER would have been indefensible.

All in all, a very fun game. I’m glad I went for the solo, because that really was a great endgame, and I’m not just saying that because I won.
Sargmacher (0 DX)
13 Apr 12 UTC
+1 for effort Jmeyersd! Although, I might go make a coffee before attempting to start on that Bible.
jmeyersd (4240 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
lol, don't thank me, thank the mountainous pile of other things that I should be doing that convinces me to spend all day on an internet game site.
if this is a bible, does that make me a prophet?
Sargmacher (0 DX)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Zultar's GR stats and your magnificent display in Lando's tournament are certainly 2 miracles pointing towards your status as a prophet, oh wise one.
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
13 Apr 12 UTC
I would politely request that jmeyersd retracts his prophet comment as I have a daughter and it is hard to indoctrinate her when she thinks that jmeyersd is a prophet and Barn3tt is omniscient. I can't stop her from reading this myself, so please refrain from making sacrilegious comments. Moreover, please do not be so descriptive with your sentences (mountainous pile). It is sending me a hyper-dimensional thought-image, which makes me think I can trust you to take my centers.

In the spirit of Diplomacy, amen.
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
13 Apr 12 UTC
I have no idea what assmarcher is talking about in regards to "zultar's GR stats."
Sargmacher (0 DX)
13 Apr 12 UTC
zultar, if that's a joke, it doesn't make sense. In another thread you referred to exactly such a thing. Do I need to dig the reference up?
Sargmacher (0 DX)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Ok, after your PM saying you don't know what I'm talking about I'll paste your comment:

"Most likely there will be GR for GB. Alderian is working on the script, and once we verify its veracity, I will do a regression analysis and use the survey that I posted a couple of months ago to determine which scores will encompass the most information."

zultar
06:31 PM
+1
threadID=858759

I even +1ed it! :)
jmeyersd (4240 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
zultar: I retract my prophet comment. I'm not the messiah, I'm just a very naughty boy.

Barn3tt is omniscient, though.
jmeyersd (4240 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
also, i think that if sending imagur files is regarded as a form of metagaming (by some), the rules on multisensory/dimension diplomacy need to be cleared up. i will do my best to refrain from using language evocative of any senses whatsoever in future.
k?
redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
I think if jmeyersd wrote the bible then formally he is God, because many christians believe God wrote it through others.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Great EoG by the way! I love how you were nicer to me than I could have hoped.
jmeyersd (4240 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Any others?
redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
got 5 a4s still typing
jmeyersd (4240 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
what?
DILK (1539 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Whoa, what is everyone talking about metagaming? I was the poorly played Austrian. What's the drama after I stopped paying attention?
DILK (1539 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
I was sad to see that Italy got a survive. He was a turd burglar
redhouse1938 (429 D)
14 Apr 12 UTC
lol
I'll redo my EOG tonight. It's definitely too hostile :p
redhouse1938 (429 D)
14 Apr 12 UTC
You should just post a hostile and non-hostile EoG and let everyone pick which one they think most accurately reflects the game. Mine will just be hostile. lol
patizcool (100 D)
14 Apr 12 UTC
Well played jmeyersd... interested to see the end games from everyone else's perspectives as well

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Riphen (198 D)
24 Apr 12 UTC
Minecraft.
Anyone have minecraft. And their own server. I have an idea.
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Dassarri (916 D)
25 Apr 12 UTC
Need one more player for a classic game! Prefer beginner, new players
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=87032

Password is "history". Need just one more player to start this one. 24hr phases.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
25 Apr 12 UTC
really cool virus/dna study
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17809503

'Astonishingly, only 1.5% of the genetic material in our cells codes for human life. Half of the rest is sometimes described as "junk DNA" with no known function, and the other half consist of genes introduced by viruses and other parasites.'
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Chanakya. (703 D)
25 Apr 12 UTC
Need Help
Can someone please sit for me in a LIVE game, Now?
I have to go due to some very important work.
Please.
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Sydney City (0 DX)
25 Apr 12 UTC
The loss of a beloved Dog...
discuss...
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rokakoma (19138 D)
24 Apr 12 UTC
High pot replacements needed
due to recent bans
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semck83 (229 D(B))
25 Apr 12 UTC
Awesome / Incredible experiment
Discuss.

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/04/decision-to-entangle-effects-results-of-measurements-taken-beforehand.ars
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
25 Apr 12 UTC
Going Postal
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/04/americas-postal-service?fsrc=scn/fb/wl/bl/thewayoftheponyexpress

How would you fix the USPS?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
25 Apr 12 UTC
The left hand giveth and the right hand taketh away...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/25/nyregion/in-new-york-city-giving-away-and-taking-away-condoms.html?_r=1&smid=tw-nytimesscience&seid=auto
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Hyperion (1029 D)
25 Apr 12 UTC
MAGNA DEFENDER
I remember he used to be my childhood hero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQe6pEJoJzw&feature=relmfu
This scene would make me shed tears.
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damian (675 D)
18 Apr 12 UTC
Since there has been so much religion lately: A question.
How do you personally deal with certain passages in the bible that are misogynistic, or anthropocentric? Examples to follow.
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Chanakya. (703 D)
25 Apr 12 UTC
EOG: Live Gunboat-198
gameID=87183

Russia came to draw the game pretty late. But Russia, I wanted to tell you that I really thought that Two Armies builds may be against me, So I attacked you..And One more reason, You were not drawing the game..You should have done it as we all played really well.
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Putin33 (111 D)
24 Apr 12 UTC
Chelsea defeats Barcelona
The whole world celebrates!
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Oskar (100 D(S))
24 Apr 12 UTC
New Game - 150, WTA, Classic, Anon
PM or post below for the PW
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dubmdell (556 D)
24 Apr 12 UTC
Ain't... is a word?
I learned the etymology of ain't today. Thought I'd share.
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S.E. Peterson (100 D)
24 Apr 12 UTC
Live-145-2 EOG
Excellent game, gentlemen.
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