You waited for what, less than 10 minutes? And you're seriously using that as evidence of anything?

I don't know what you're flipping out about Krellin. I never claimed to help the "Negros" out ( I really hope you call your soup kitchen patrons Negros). I just find it funny that tough guys like you flee to the suburbs but think you're connected to the city you want nothing to do with because you exploit it for entertainment or go to a Tigers game.

Tell me Krellin, why don't you live in the city of Detroit?

It's been 10 minutes Putin...certainly time enough for anybody with any real track record of helping people to give us the goods on what they do to back up their big fucking mouth. Time enough for anyone that doesn't do shit to make up a lie, even.

Fact is, you fucking liar and coward - you don't do shit - and all your bullshit around here is just that: bullshit - big talk from a cowardly little suburban all-white apartment dweller who so loathes people - minorities in particular - that you don't lift a hand to help, and you don't even participate in their commerce...hiding away in your little hell hole of self-delusion as you despise everyone around you. You pathetic fuck.

@ Krellin: "@Jamie - Did I say anything to suggest that the police should be done away with and replaced with a private force? I didn't say that at all..."

I apologise - I mis-interpreted your point then. It seemed you were agreeing with YJ's opening suggestion that the police are not needed. Clearly that's not what you intended, so no worries.

"And if you are going to pretend that your wealth, or lack of wealth, makes a difference in your safety..."

No, I didn't say that. I'm saying that clearly *would* be the case if there were no police force and you had to hire your own investigators if you were the victim of a crime.

"Community is a part of effective crime prevention - and sitting on your ass, failing to report what you know, etc, is contributing to crime."

I agree with you on that point.

Why should I live in Detroit, Putin? What the fuck difference would that make? I live where i live because it's where I grew up, asshole. I live here because I want to send my kids to a school where they have a lesser chance of getting gunned down or raped waiting for the school bus. What the fuck do you care where I live, asshole? You think you are somehow better than me because you pretend to live in a city? You think your zip code makes you fucking better than me, asshole?

Tell me, Putin WHAT DO YOU DO TO HELP ANYONE? WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION? Answer: Because you don't do **anything** to help anyone. Simple as that.

Tell me, Putin WHAT DO YOU DO TO HELP ANYONE? WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION? Answer: Because you don't do **anything** to help anyone. Simple as that.

PUTIN - It's been 20 minutes since you have been asked what you do to help anyone other than yourself. You are a loud-mouthed piece of shit. You want to accuse everyone around you of being bad poeple, accuse people you don't know *jack shit* about that they are bad people, and yet in 20 minutes you haven't told us one single good thing you do that you are paid to do -- you can't even say you drop a quarter in the kettle at the store.

You are truly one living piece of shit; a liar and a coward through to the bone.

correction: 'you haven't told us one single good thing you do that you are NOT paid to do '...

3 minutes and still waiting for Putin's list of good deeds for humanity......

30 minutes and still waiting for Putin's list of good deeds for humanity......

Krellin, while I would also be interested in Putin's answer to your question, everyone can see that you asked it, and everyone can see that there's not yet been an answer. You're getting to the point of spamming now. Leave it for a minute, ok?

Are you adults or children, krellin and Putin? This is becoming ridiculous.
Knock it off and be civil.

@jamie,
"Guns don't solve crimes. People solve crimes."

Guns don't solve crimes, uh uh, I solve crimes, (chick chick) with guns. POW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk

haha dani I wanted a .357 but couldn't afford it. You can't beat the price I got for this little number.

@Jamie:

That is a fair point, but I would like to point out, as krellin has already hinted, that most burglaries don't get solved.

" 'you haven't told us one single good thing you do that you are NOT paid to do '..."

Nice backpedalling.

I help autistic children 5 days a week for 8 hours a day. I also raise money for them and donate Christmas toys to them. I also give money and food to rescue missions. What is it that you do?

And what does this have to do with your tough talking fear of the city?

Krellin raises goats and provides soup to poor negroes, we know that already, Putin.

@Jamie: "Krellin, while I would also be interested in Putin's answer to your question, everyone can see that you asked it, and everyone can see that there's not yet been an answer. You're getting to the point of spamming now. Leave it for a minute, ok? "

Hey - how about this -- FUCK OFF. Forgive my momentary breach of decorum, but that fuckwad piece of shit Putin likes to come on here and try to accuse everyone - EVERYONE - of being some sort of racist abuser while he claims to hold on to some fucking moral high ground, when in fact there is zero...ZERO...evidence that anything Putin says is true. He can't even come on here and make up some shit about what he does to help all these people he claims to care for.

You want to get on someone's back, Jamie, why don't you fucking call out Putin to PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

@PUTIN -- Your pathetic claim to fame is that you "help autistic children 40 hours a week". THAT'S YOUR FUCKING JOB PUTIN -- YOU GET PAID FOR THAT WHETHER OR NOT YOU EVEN DO A GOOD JOB. THAT DOES NOT COUNT AS CHARITY, IT DOESN'T COUNT AS A GOOD DEED - IT'S A FUCKING JOB.

And you want to know what I do, Putin:
* I have worked directly with the local FISH charity, and
* I give time and money for the local animal shelter and bring foster animals in to my home
* I donate money to Forgotten Harvest, which feeds thousands in metro-Detroit daily
* I have worked through my church on a local charity that provides clothing and child-care items to pregnant teenage girls, and supports them through and after the pregnancy
* I contribute to local veteran organizations that support war veterans in need of assistance - I have a brother that is an Iraq War veteran

Those are things I have done off the top of my head, bitch.

On a "non-charitable" basis, I also frequently spend time visiting Detroit and spending my cash in the city, in support of the local businesses.

Bitch.

And Putin - dragging your ass through the line at the soup kitchen to eat your meals doesn't count as charity, bitch.

@ Putin33

"Because of people like you."

People like me? A well-armed populace is NO excuse for the government to have a monopoly on force. In fact, the American public was MUCH better-armed than the military AND the police for most of our history. In the early 19th century, citizens had rifles and soldiers had muskets. In the late 19th century, citizens had lever-action rifles and double-action revolvers; soldiers had single-shot rifles and single-action revolvers.

Where did I claim to care for anybody? I guess mentioning the fact that you're too afraid of the city to live there really struck a nerve.

Yet another Sunday with another church-goer cussing me out.

"YOU GET PAID FOR THAT WHETHER OR NOT YOU EVEN DO A GOOD JOB. THAT DOES NOT COUNT AS CHARITY, IT DOESN'T COUNT AS A GOOD DEED - IT'S A FUCKING JOB."

I don't get this distinction. You work for an evil company generally being paid to do evil work, but that's absolved because you go to soup kitchens? By that score, Monsanto employees and oil executives are better human beings than nurses or environmentalists if they happen to spend more money donating to corrupt charities?

What kind of bizarre logic is this?

Whatever makes you feel better about the fact that your job generally does more harm than good.

"In the early 19th century, citizens had rifles and soldiers had muskets. In the late 19th century, citizens had lever-action rifles and double-action revolvers; soldiers had single-shot rifles and single-action revolvers."

And that fact almost resulted in our country being overrun by a small contingent of British colonial soldiers in 1812. I don't get your fetishization of the early 19th century. It was a horrible time for most people.

Can w ban krellin and Putin for a day for bad behavior?
Gunfighter does have very nice points there. I think the transition happened in ww1 along with the prohibition era where the government became better armed than the people.
I do like the police because everybody in the USA pays for them. However, some are inefficient at their jobs. Now, if you were to privatize the police forces, they would become better but then there's always unintended drawbacks. The thing YJ, your .38 won't do very much to a thug on drugs with that ak or m16.

@gunfighter .45 for regular pistol handguns .357 for manly revolvers.

Privatizing police force would just make the police more corrupt than they are already

"Can w ban krellin and Putin for a day for bad behavior?"

Dear Toddler, how did anything I did here compare to Krellin's aggression? Is this just you looking for cheap +1s by bashing us both? Faux equivalence much?

"The thing YJ, your .38 won't do very much to a thug on drugs with that ak or m16."

Good thing "thugs on drugs" don't carry AKs or M16s, toddler.

@PUTIN "Where did I claim to care for anybody?"

You never did claim to care for anybody...but I guess there it is - you don't make the claim to care for anybody. Enough said. So from henceforth on all of your bitching an moaning about how people treat other people I will ignore - because it comes from a vile, repulsive heart of hypocrisy. You demonstrate yourself to be *exactly* whom I already knew you to be.

"...too afraid of the city to live there..."
Please tell me *exactly* where I ever claimed to be afraid of the city? Please tell me once *ever* where I said I was afraid of the city. Just once where I have said "I am afraid of the city". Find this quote, and I will silence myself for a month ala Draugnar.

Now, if you want to address whether or not, for the sake of my family, I am intelligent enough to minimize the risks to their safety, and offer them a better chance to succeed at life by obtaining a better education - please, let's discuss this.

Tell me Mr Tough Guy (Pretend) City Dweller - Do you lock your doors at night? Do you lock your car? Do you keep your pin numbers and passwords secret? I wonder if brave Putin the Rapist has an open door - literally open door - pol;icy whereby anybody can walk in to his house? Are you, Mr Tough Guy (Pretend) city Dweller a man of your word, who lives 100% unafraid, and leaves himself open to all?

Your so-called arguments are in the realm of the three year old' slogic...or perhaps this is the type of logic you use when pretending to teach the retards? Probably...that's probably why you aren't allowed in a real class room - they wanted to match your intellect to your students.

"You work for an evil company generally being paid to do evil work,"

Really? Please tell me where I work, Mr Tough Guy Putin-the-Rapist Pretend City Dweller? Please tell me exactly what I do, since you claim to have so much knoweldge of my life. And no, your pretend little slanders of what I do aren't a part of this discussion -- tell me ***exactly** what I do, who I work for, what evil is done by the company that I work for. Let's see if just once in your life you can back up a single claim you have made, Mr. Tough Guy Pretend City dweller Putin-the-Rapist.