I just find the notion of giving some cretin a female to satisfy his urges disgusting. Im sorry if morality is annoying but we are a colony sworn to protect our citizens, not cheaply trade them like meat for our own advancement.

Final offer
##Isaac 400 silver for the wool
(Keep yer cannon and were not giving any women)

Take it or leave it Isaac, women are beautiful intelligent people, not property. I cannot bargain lives for goods.

First off, massive kudos to our Engineer Cosmo for working that box out. Am in total agreement that the amulet should remain with him, at least for now. Also had the thought that something magical might end up being useful in the hunt for the witch. ##Vote Yea Props 5.1, 5.2

Secondly, I'll go have a think about the rest of the stuff. As requested the map is updated as requested: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MTWR-eL1dAX7QnLjxzTELxLxb9_xvlMZPjDHQtZAqXo/edit?usp=drivesdk

Why not take the cannon? Cannons are wildly useful in defense, particularly as we expand our reaches. We are not trading any women away, but a cannon is more important to us than a few chunks of silver.

Brain, I know you have missed a lot, but I am the Governor of this colony and even I cannot act unilaterally with our resources. You can't either, so please stop making trade offers without consulting the rest of us.

##PROP 5.3 - offer to trade the remainder of our wool for 350 silver and a cannon.

Im not allowed to bargain in front of you?

Strange. Its not like its a back alley deal

Im negotiating to see how much we can get.

You're allowed to bargain but you're going well beyond your rights to determine whether we want a cannon or not, let alone to act as if you have the power to dictate our actual offer.

There already is a 5.3. Please actually read

Your prop isnt what hes offering. Once again read

Before I began negotiation, had I sat idly doing nothing his offer was 200 silver for wool. I bargained on our behalf from a position of sttength
Had I not bothered the cannon wouldnt even have been on the table sir Governor.

Ah, yes, your skills are so obviously above all others, as if we as a Council could not have decided to negotiate with the Merchant. Perhaps the reason you left us was because you were not prepared to go through the hardship of establishing a working government in a new colony, but now that we have done so, you're here on a power binge - power that you don't have, no less, because we all agreed that nobody ever should. We welcomed you back, but it would be friendly of you to adhere to the rules that we have put in place since your random return.

Since you're asking me to read, I'll ask the same of you so that maybe you will understand that your Proposals 5.3 and 5.4 have already been decided upon and that you are going to continue to be ineffective in your bargaining with us and with the colonists if you do not actually understand what our goals are and how we do business.

##SECOND Prop 5.5

##PROP 5.6 - offer to trade our wool to Isaac for 350 silver and a cannon. Prohibit the future trade of colonists, not including slaves.

Random departure, that should be, not random return.

##Vote Nay on 5.6

I think restricting the ability of councillors to haggle is a mistake. I am disappointed you feel that slavery indefinetely is acceptable. Im also troubled by your profound lack of leadership and trying to silence colonists.

Ive been around the block young man. I know a thing or two about these issues. Theres reasons why pathways to a free society benefit us in morale and in human decency

I bargained from a position of freedom. I asked him if he could do better. Ive indeed read much of whats happening here and I feel that nobody would have pursued a better offer necessarily. Theres plenty of issues to discuss so why not discuss it. Hes not offering 5.5 so thats an invalid prop.

What are you on? 5.5 is your own proposal.

I have invited a woman in distress and her child into the colony under conditions of asylum, as will shortly be announced. Ike found her and brought her to me. She is a native of this place and has warnings of enemies on this island that could be near or far - that is yet to be determined.

Lieutenant- It isn't becoming of the councilors fl argue like this. Does nothing good for our morale or efficiency. (sides with bo)
Killian- an elder should be allowed to speak governor. He may be new but his experiences are varied (sides with brain)
Haliburton - as a man of knowledge I couldn't agree more with Councilor brain that this colony needs proactive leadership. (Sides with brain)

Captain Rick- Order and organization are key to our survival you really shouldn't buck a system that is working. (Sides with bo)

*Player Storyline*
RagibgIke discovered a native woman and her infant child one night. He brought them to the governor who after hearing her story decided to allow her to stay.

She is from a village relatively nearby that was attached by a group she calls the Enemars. What we know is this group is of foreign origin and non native due to her description of them "arriving" many moons ago. She describes a peaceful existence at first that eventually became violent.

Through conversation we have learned her name is Moon Cat.

##GM is there a limit to the number of workers that can work the lumber mill?

@RagingIke - No.

Gentlemen! I urge you both to take a moment and consider the ramifications of your arguing already. We cannot hope to survive here if we cannot put forward a united front.

Governor: I strongly believe that in a situation where not all of our Councillors are available at all times, we should trust the wisdom of all our fellow Councillors and accept that they are qualified by their nature to have discussions and make proposals.

Elder Brain: your wisdom accumulated over many years is appreciated, but we have rules and you must be willing to abide by them. Perhaps, in the future, you could make it clear that you intend to put forward your final bargaining position as a proposal, rather than appearing to take initiative that has not yet been delegated to you.

In the meantime, I will continue to stress my dislike for our using slaves. I fully support proposals that decrease their servitude and given that 5.3 and 5.4 do that, I will ##second them both. However, I will make it clear that I support these because they make the best of a bad situation - NOT because I support slavery in any manner.

I would like to make the following ## propositions:
Prop 5.7 Allow the rowboat to continue inland (10/429)
Prop 5.8 Send the other exploration party to the west (20/429)
Prop 5.9 Build a Lumber Yard (Killian) (40/429) (100w 100i)
Prop 5.10 Build 3 Farms using slaves (100/429) (400w 100i 150 st)
Prop 5.11 Build another Barracks (130/429) (500w 100i 200 st)
Prop 5.12 Assign 30 workers to the mines (160/429)
Prop 5.13 Assign 90 workers to the farms (250/429)
Prop 5.14 Assign 239 workers to gather lumber (429/429)
Prop 5.15 Assign 10 Soldiers to watch the slaves build the farms
Prop 5.16 Assign soldiers to guard the edges of the colony / watch for the Enemars Moon Cat mentioned
Prop 5.17 Ask the king for more animals, more colonists and some chemicals
We need to consider adding more techs to the queue, also ##call GM how do we find mining sites?

We are already set to free slaves after 20 phases and we are permitted to do so at a sooner date on a case by case basis. I do not see how this is problematic. If we don't need their productivty anymore, then we should free them, but right now we absolutely do. As such I feel this is the wrong time to consider the timing for releasing them again because we don't know how well off we will be by then and only serve to spark an angry uprising if it turns out we can't afford to let them go.

##PROP 5.7 - station 20 soldiers at the outskirts of our camp to scout for possible enemies, particularly the Enemars.

##MOON CAT - is there any way to communicate with your tribe?

(P.S. I was told that I am the only one that can communicate with her because she doesn't speak our language, but I am a native and can understand hers and communicate.)

Okay, I suppose I can retract 5.7, or whatever it would have been.

What tech do you have in mind, Ike?

##Leuitenant You describe yourself as progressive. What is progressive about slavery?

Prop 5.7 ##Vote Yay
Prop 5.8 ##Vote Yay
Prop 5.9 ##Vote Yay
Prop 5.10 ##Vote Nay
Prop 5.11 ##Vote Yay
Prop 5.12 ##Vote Yay
Prop 5.13 ##Vote Yay
Prop 5.14 ##Vote Yay
Prop 5.15 ##Vote Yay
Prop 5.16 ##Vote Yay
Prop 5.17 ##Vote Yay

I would suggest astronomy and printing press, but I'm very open to suggestions that's why I didn't make a prop