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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
16 Nov 12 UTC
A truly incredible and magnificent person.....
http://www.borntorun.com.au/5deserts/Jess-Baker
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Alderian (2425 D(S))
14 Nov 12 UTC
Nifty
I just found IE on my XBOX360 and have plugged a USB keyboard in and am now playing diplomacy on my big screen TV.
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
15 Nov 12 UTC
EoG: Marsupilami
Divided we fall.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
15 Nov 12 UTC
Still don't get it do you Mr Romney....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20344750
Mr Charisma-Bypass still doesn't get it ...... in his own head he thinks he could be Barack, the guy is living in cloud cuckoo land.
Bad losers always find someone else to blame....
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Celticfox (100 D(B))
15 Nov 12 UTC
Super power map
Neat map of the super powers and who has em. For all the other comic book geeks abut here.

http://dailyinfographic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/PopChartLab_Superpowers_FinalFinal-Large.jpg
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Octavious (2701 D)
15 Nov 12 UTC
Election Night!
Across the world people are on tenterhooks. Americans are preparing to stay up all night, Europeans are readying themselves for a day of protest, and China has closed down Google. It's the political event of the year... It's the UK police commissioner elections!!!!!
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Frank (100 D)
15 Nov 12 UTC
Higher Education Bubble -- an interesting video
thoughts? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAwBN2Q8L14
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
15 Nov 12 UTC
Hypothetical
I am thinking about running a tournament, but I have a question regarding the impact of a scoring system. What do you think the results would be of a scoring system based on the following:

What if rankings are assigned by number of solos, with a tie-breaker being total centres?
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gramilaj (100 D)
15 Nov 12 UTC
Dip game with a mandatory end at 1908
Hey, I'm looking to prep for WDC next year and I believe the system they're playing ends the game at 1908.
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ulytau (541 D)
12 Nov 12 UTC
Hey Conservative Man MAN UP
I will now use my newly acquired expertise in invoking a MAN UP to solve some longstanding problems of webDiplomacy.net
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cspieker (18223 D)
15 Nov 12 UTC
Goodbye Webdip GAME
I see there is a big pot gunboat WTA game on the joining list.

What's the story on this one? Who is leaving?
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Moondust (195 D)
15 Nov 12 UTC
Noob question, again
A wants to hold. B wants to move to C, which is next to A. Is A supporting B's move the same as A holding in strength? If someone tries to come into A, does the support on B make A weaker? thanks!
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Utom (691 D)
15 Nov 12 UTC
Ghost ratings
I can see my ghost rating for Sept. and Oct. but don't seem to appear in the Nov. listings. Should I presume I have done so badly that I have fallen off the bottom?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
14 Nov 12 UTC
How does the US get away from the two party system?
I don't have any idea so I'm looking to see what others think. Do we somehow outlaw politcal parties altogether and make candidates run on their own merits? Do we have to do serious reform to campaign financing as well? Give me your ideas!
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
12 Nov 12 UTC
November GR
I waited patiently for 12 days first, when will we possibly see the updated numbers?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
14 Nov 12 UTC
Didn't They Try This Once Before...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/texas-secession-petition-qualifies-for-white-house-response_n_2125159.html
...and that ended so well. LOL. (Also, secessionist talk amongst several states--Texas having easily the most petition votes--in a year with not one but TWO Abe Lincoln movies?)
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EOG Gun 1001
Fuck this game.
gameID=104286
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
10 Nov 12 UTC
GOP's bad treatment of Ron Paul and his supporters cost Mitt Romney the election
http://www.policymic.com/articles/18815/the-ron-paul-effect-how-the-gop-threw-the-election-by-disenfranchising-ron-paul-supporters
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
15 Nov 12 UTC
Because I Pay Attention to Baseball
I know that there was a giant trade a day ago involving Jose Reyes, Josh Johnson, and Mark Buerhle. There was also a lot of pissy Tweeting, specifically from Mike/Giancarlo Stanton.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Nov 12 UTC
Where to get Firewood?
This may seem like a silly question, but I've never had a fireplace before, so...
Where do I get it? Most of the trees around here are pine, so I can't burn what falls from storms. A cord goes for close to $300, which seems like a lot, but I don't have anything to compare it to.
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HITLER69 (0 DX)
07 Nov 12 UTC
Buy a duraflame log from your local super market if you don't want to buy a cord.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Nov 12 UTC
I'm pretty sure duraflame is *much* more expensive than wood.
LakersFan (899 D)
07 Nov 12 UTC
If you need a cord for the winter, I can't imagine 300 being that terrible of a price.

The one time I lived in the mountains, my girlfriend got a pellet stove. That thing was awesome.
semck83 (229 D(B))
07 Nov 12 UTC
There should be a lot of guys along rural highways selling firewood. Try driving down one, say at the entrance to a small town or something.
LakersFan (899 D)
07 Nov 12 UTC
I think places around here (LA) sell firewood by the wheelbarrow for 10-20 dollars per. Prices are probably inflated here since most people don't really need fires.
Sicarius (673 D)
07 Nov 12 UTC
Only in 2012
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Nov 12 UTC
Yes, Sic?
gramilaj (100 D)
07 Nov 12 UTC
Libraries are full of firewood, and they let you rent it for free.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Nov 12 UTC
LOL
Draugnar (0 DX)
07 Nov 12 UTC
Whatever you do, stick to local. Bringing in wood from other regions is asking to have new species of bugs introduced, like the Emerald Ash Borer around here. And these new bugs can be devastating to the local trees. They will climb out of your firewood and attach onto a nearby live tree and start reproducing like mad because none of their natrual predators are around to eat them.
jman777 (407 D)
07 Nov 12 UTC
$300 isn't bad to my knowledge, but we split it ourselves. We burn wood more or less constantly Dec-Feb, maybe half of Nov and Mar, and 1 or 2 cords is enough. Usually only have to refill on oil once at most, so even if you buy 2 cords for $600 total you'll probably still save quite a bit. But a pellet stove is a much simpler option and usually has significantly more output. It's especially nice if you can install it in your basement.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Nov 12 UTC
I live in a townhouse-style apt with a fireplace, so a pellet stove is out of the question. Perhaps I was just confused about how much wood is supposed to cost. If people think that's a reasonable price for a cord, that's probably what I'll go with.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Nov 12 UTC
Where do you get the wood you split yourself?
Draugnar (0 DX)
07 Nov 12 UTC
It also depends on if the fireplace(s) are the only heat source or if you are using it as supplemental heat. 2 cords worked well for supplemental heat when we had a WBFP.

But the other thing is you should let your wood season by buying it in the spring. Too late for that now, but still.

If you are going for ambiance, 1/2 a cord will probably do you all winter or just go ahead and buy duraflame logs. The furaflames are very clean and give you a nice even burn for a decent period of time.

You also might want to buy a box of starter logs. They are like miniduraflames, but make starting the fire easier. And don't forget to open the flue before lighting the fire and close it when it is out.
Sicarius (673 D)
07 Nov 12 UTC
I mostly just tke wood from friends/ aquantences sp who have trees to cut down. A little labor intensive but a day or two choppin is better than payin hundreds of dollars. You do mean a fireplace right, for show? Not like a wood burning stove or something for heat right?
Draugnar (0 DX)
07 Nov 12 UTC
@abgemacht - Make sure you are actually getting a cord. A cord is 4'x4'x8' or 128 cubic feet. It's a lot of wood.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Nov 12 UTC
I'm talking about a fireplace. I don't get cold, so I keep the heat on just enough to keep the pipes from freezes. The fireplace heats the living room.

Honestly, I don't mind chopping my own wood. That's what I've done the last couple weeks. But, as I said, there's so much pine, I have a hard time finding anything else.
jman777 (407 D)
07 Nov 12 UTC
Yeah I just get it from neighbors/anyone who cuts down a tree and doesn't want to dispose of the wood. Making friends with tree-cutting companies doesn't ever hurt. And yeah Draug we just use it supplementally to push the temp from ~58 to ~68. We have a wood stove, not a fireplace, so I'm not really familiar with the operational differences between the two. I've never used any of the duraflame logs though. If you set up the wood in the right way starting a fire is really simple.
All the wood that we've burned as come from trees we cut down in the yard. We had 30 year old maples and oaks and such
You must have a big property.

If you live anywhere near Uxbridge ON I can hook you's up with a tree guy (arborist).
Putin33 (111 D)
07 Nov 12 UTC
Michigan, the trees are the right height.
Draugnar (0 DX)
08 Nov 12 UTC
Oh man! Sacrilege! Maple and oak are great for woodworking. Have a lumber yard cut it and kiln dry it. But don't burn it, especially not the maple. Oak is reasonably priced, but maple is expensive stuff to be burning.
Stressedlines (1559 D)
08 Nov 12 UTC
Okay, I have a wood burning stove and a fireplace, and up here in the Mountains of East Tennessee, it does get damn cold.

I usuallycut my own, and its USUALLY oak and hickory, although Hickory is best to sell to a BBQ place for $100 a rick (i forget how may ricks in a Cord, but we use Ricks for our measurement) and a rick of Oak is about 45, and they burn the same.

For me, to use electric heat is 4 times MORe expensive than burning. I built my own house by myself, and insulated the bastard very well, so my house is always toasty, so I dont know your exact situation in that regards, but you should still come out ahead burning wood.

Is it a real fireplace, or one of them sorta fake ones, that you can burn wood in, but they throw shit for heat?

Also remember, fireplaces only heat what you can see from them, unlike a wood burning stove. They can throw a LOT of heat, but generally not in the same way a stove does.

Open floor planned house?
Stressedlines (1559 D)
08 Nov 12 UTC
AND if you do want to chop a lot of wood, well, I chop my own in the winter when its cold, but in the summer when I am splitting it to season it, I use a damn hydraulic log splitter...lol

I quarter them with the splitter, then season them (I have a wood shed for this) for about 6 months, then i split them again as needed with an axe in winter.
Dharmaton (2398 D)
08 Nov 12 UTC
It's $100 here.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
08 Nov 12 UTC
It heats the living room decent enough. The real problem is the apt is very tall but not wide. It's about 3 stories, so if I use the gas heat, the bedrooms get roasting hot and the living room is still freezing.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
08 Nov 12 UTC
Where is "here"?
@lando - not really. I think its either a third of an acre or half an acre we have. Its just the people who owned the property before us *loved* trees. We've cut down 11 in the past 15 years, and are planning on taking down the wall of pine trees in the back this year, so 7 more.

and @Draug I'm not sure why they didn't try to salvage the wood on any of the *good* wood trees. I think it has to do with the fact that the elm had Dutch Elm disease, and the two maples were invested with carpenter ants. We do still have an oak that is ramrod straight for about 30 feet, but again I don't know how we'd be able to "sell" it. So we have them leave us a cord or so to burn.
Mujus (1495 D(B))
08 Nov 12 UTC
Depends where you are, and what kind of wood it is. After the storms there should be some good sources of free wood in the East, if you can get there with a pickup and a chainsaw that is. It's much easier to have a cord of already-split wood delivered though. Around here we can get white oak with 10% cedar for $275 per cord this year, a little less for eucalyptus, and a lot less for pine or avocado. The oak and eucalyptus burn hot and long and with very little ash, the avocado burns clean but burns up fast, and the pine is not something you want to use on a regular basis because it coats the inside of the chimney with creosote, necessitating brushing more often. The cedar is just to add some nice smell to the oak. I hope this helps.
Mujus (1495 D(B))
08 Nov 12 UTC
After scrounging free wood all my life, like when freeway road crews cut down trees that get too big for how close they are to the roadway, and helping my dad cut down people's trees just for the wood, I bowed to increasing age and a sore knee and shoulder and paid for two cords of wood two years ago, and just one last year, which lasted just fine. You should be aware that not all wood dealers are scrupulous--the first load I got was about half pine even though I paid for eucalyptus. It was a reddish pine and green, so it looked and hefted like eucalpytus, but the smell was a giveaway. I made them bring me another half cord or so for free, because firewood is pretty closely regulated and they could have gotten in a lot of trouble. Also watch out for people who want to sell you a truckload of wood at the price of a cord, because a truckload can mean anything, and at least in California, anything over about 1/4 cord has to be sold at a per cord price rather than any other measurement.

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Thucydides (864 D(B))
14 Nov 12 UTC
Serious thread/requesting academic assistance
Please answer this as objectively as you can, and not in personal terms, okay thanks:

Please help me list the left's possible responses to the failure of communist states degenerating into anarchy. I have a few possibilities inside but please feel free to help me hone them into more nuanced responses, see inside.
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My_name_is_Mud (100 D)
14 Nov 12 UTC
Stats
Are there any statistics on the games that have been completed? Particularly the percentage of wins each country has?
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largeham (149 D)
14 Nov 12 UTC
The real reason the Bolsheviks were able to overthrow Kerensky
The Clans are obviously socialist, aren't they?
http://m.theage.com.au/national/education/history-transformed-in-vce-exam-20121114-29ce7.html
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vexlord (231 D)
08 Nov 12 UTC
new games, Im terrible, so its easy points!
So I was unable to find any games I was interested in joining, so i created 2.
gameID=103779 full chat, anon, 201 D
gameID=103780 no chat, anon, 109 D
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
14 Nov 12 UTC
New Dutch government thread
I know not many of you are following this, but what's everybody's take on this issue? Bad government or worst government ever? I'm not sure if I'm done with the VVD yet (I think I am) but I'm surely done with Mark Rutte.
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trip (696 D(B))
14 Nov 12 UTC
Question
Is asking about how the rules work pertaining to a specific move, through PM, considered cheating if the game is a gunboat?
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Moondust (195 D)
14 Nov 12 UTC
Noob question on support moves
I have an army in A and B. My ally has an army in C. I am going to have A support move C to D (bad guy). Can B support hold A or is that a wasted move since A is not holding but support moving? Thanks!
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
14 Nov 12 UTC
EOG: Man Overboard! - 2
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Jamiet99uk (873 D)
14 Nov 12 UTC
Woman dies in Republic of Ireland after being denied abortion
From today's Guardian newspaper:
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
14 Nov 12 UTC
Work Out
I know this may be futile, but worth a try
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