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vamosrammstein (757 D(B))
12 Oct 12 UTC
Greek Life
What are your opinions/experiences with the university fraternity/sorority system?
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yaks (218 D)
14 Oct 12 UTC
Replacement
Russia was banned because of a multi in builds 1901- He has five centers. Please join.

gameID=101512
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Demos (496 D)
14 Oct 12 UTC
700 pot. Join Pinball Wizard!
Please join. Should be good. gameID=101906
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HafthorS (337 D)
14 Oct 12 UTC
In memorandum of a leap..
Out of respect for one, giant, leap for mankind; I have created in memorandum of Felix Baumgartner (and his hasteful but insightful journey) a game which is also dedicated to it: FelixBoat 01! - gameID=101904
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
14 Oct 12 UTC
EoG: Eye'v got me a WTA-GB!
gameID=101879 Moron alert: lvpiter
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Tantris (2456 D)
14 Oct 12 UTC
Never Moves...
So, I have had a rash of people joining games and never making a move ever. When they CD, someone rejoins and never makes a move. Anonymous games...

Anyway we could have the names of the people that CD in the message when they go CD?
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smokeout (0 DX)
14 Oct 12 UTC
Room for 2
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=101853
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
14 Oct 12 UTC
EoG: War-22
gameID=101854 That was a great win, you bastard.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
20 Sep 12 UTC
The 100.000th webdip game
Guys,

This afternoon, I managed to claim gameID=100000. I need people within 18 hours to play. It'll be non-anon, PW protected, 100 D, classic WTA FP.
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
Idea for a new variant
The "Classic version" is set right before the First World War. I propose a variant set just before Napoleon.

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Zmaj (215 D(B))
14 Oct 12 UTC
EoG: Zultar Speaks
I'll burn in hell for losing this game.
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
14 Oct 12 UTC
EOG I've got me a gunboat-14
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HafthorS (337 D)
14 Oct 12 UTC
Needs 1, few min left!
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Oct 12 UTC
NFL Pick 'Em
Don't think anyone did this thread for this week.. here's mine.
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rokakoma (19138 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
Future of this site
Please discuss here what are the objectives you think this site should achive, from quality of the games, through number of users until community experience. Do all this with not just stating the objective but drawing up a viable route on which you think the objectives are reachable.

Do all this on purpose to make this site better, to agree in objectives, and to satisy your and others' needs.
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rokakoma (19138 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
Hi guys, a little opening idea, what I'd like to see and how to achivie:

I think it would be great if any player could join any anonymous games within his/her league. I think it's nobody's interest to play out of his/her leage, newbies get burnt earlier then ought to, diplomats get annoyed and thus leaving the site or playing far less. Losing both newbies and diplomats is an unwanted side-effect I'm sure.

What I think would reach this goal is to implement either reliability rating, or minimum finished games to join, or GR rating to join a game. Bet size hardly helps this.

Also about GR, I think it would be great to modify the calculation script in a way, if there's a bigger spread around GR average of the game, the more qualified player risks more, so he won't do GR-farming, meaning playing only with much lower qualified players and basically winning all the time.

For example if the GR average is 150 pts. of a game, then a 300 rated player should risk more points than he would join a 250 pts. average game which is closer to his league. Meaning players would be encouraged to play within their league, why noobs could get a lot more points joining higher GR games. I think this servers long term objectives and gives the opportunity to everyone to develop with his own speed and not get burnt early.

To do this we should alter GR calculation and also connect GR scores with the site and be able to create games with min/max GR to join.

I'm not saying this is urgent, or anything, all I'm saying, I think this is a good objective and solution which serves this site's long term interest. I'm eager to see other objectives what you guys think is the site's interest and how to reach it.
trip (696 D(B))
13 Oct 12 UTC
If live games have a 50/50 shot of turning to shit, and you continue to join them knowing it, then it's not the site's fault that you end up in shit games. If you want certain parameters to join a game then password protect it. You'll hardly ever get a live game that way (I tried countless times when I played live), but that in and of itself should tell you something.

I disagree with your thoughts on having the site force players to stay within their own "league" for two reasons:
1) It would turn away new experienced players by forcing them into inferior games.
2) Playing people who are better than you at something is a good way to improve your game.
Fortress Door (1837 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
NO ROKA! THIS SITE IS THE PERFECT YOU WAY IT IS.

FUCK OFF

:P
Zmaj (215 D(B))
13 Oct 12 UTC
Trip is right. When I just joined, I learned heaps by playing heavyweights. The good players will have to bear with noobs.

There are too few players in general, that's the main problem here. Why? Poor visibility. I stumbled upon WebDip only after looking for a game of pure strategy for a very long time. And it was almost by chance - somebody on a forum was enumerating the strategy game sites.

Therefore, we need marketing. There are tons of people who would play this game if they knew it existed. We should be writing about this site and this game on forums and sites to make more people come.
Fortress Door (1837 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
Why don't we go over to playdiplomacy and bitch about their site here, like they did to us a while back :-)
rokakoma (19138 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
@trip: my first sentence was "anonymous" games. You can hardly put together an anonymous live game if it's passworded.

1) GR rating has the caracteristics of closing on your true rating rapidly, just after a few games, look at Maettu, who is 10th in GR after only 3 games (!) So a new experienced player can skyrocket very fast and be able to join higher qualified games
2) these things are optional, not mandatory. If you can't fill up a game by defineing barriers then widen them. Also, as I stated playing with better is still an option, even more if you play with skilled your risk/award ratio gets better than if you play within your league. So actually people would be motivated to play with better players!

I think you misunderstood my suggestion on all levels.

@FD: that was a good one, hahaha ;)
Fortress Door (1837 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
Roka, I have actually gotten passworded live games started quite often. Just start a live game, make it passworded, and have people PM you. Generally, just the whole PM thing turns off the noob players for some reason :P
rokakoma (19138 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
@trip, @zmaj:

example: currently a 300 pts. GR rated player risks 2/35*300 pts. in every game. A 100 pts. rated risks 2/35*100 pts. What I'm suggesting is:

If the GR average of the game is, let's say, 120pts. then the 300 rated player would risk more, for eg.: 3/35*300 while the guy with the 100pts. would still risk the same.

Vica versa if the average is about 250pts then the high rated player risks the usual amount the 100 pts. player risks less then the usual, like 1/35*100.

So the risk/award ratio improves if you play with higher qualified players and detoriates if you play with lower rated ones.
Zmaj (215 D(B))
13 Oct 12 UTC
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
rokakoma (19138 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
@Zmaj: I like your approach of marketing and I agree it's needed. Can you imagine any viable way to do that, to encourage us to advertise the site?
Fortress Door (1837 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
everybody ignores my post to raid Playdiplomacy????

or else we can start a chain email thing. "If you don't join webdiplomacy.net after reading this email, You will be sent to the Congo, which you know shit about. They eat people down there."
Zmaj (215 D(B))
13 Oct 12 UTC
Roka, I have no idea how to motivate others, but the next time I have some spare cash, I won't donate it to the site but make a Google AdWord for WebDip.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Oct 12 UTC
I don't think it's a good idea to lock new players out of "elder games" if you want to call them that. That's what passworded games are for. It's really no different other than one less forum post. When I joined the site, I had played briefly elsewhere, but not much, and I still do learn from watching the top players do things. I'm not a top player and I know that; they have a lot of moves I'd never figure out on my own.

I also, believe it or not, don't want to include ghost rating on this site until it equally accounts for every variant that is hosted by the site...
rokakoma (19138 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
Actually using donation money to advertise the site is not a bad idea at all. You can also advertise on facebook, where you can filter for gender, location, sex, ducation and so on.

Even though I don't beleive in online adverts, if might worth a try.
trip (696 D(B))
13 Oct 12 UTC
@ rok: I wasn't aware that players could move up the ratings so quickly, and you're right, games would only be semi-anon the way I described.

Getting reliable, non-passworded anon games without spending big D's is a crap shoot here, so I do understand what you're saying. I would be more inclined to base entry on reliability than GR, but I understand why some people would want the option of one, the other, or both.
rokakoma (19138 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
@trip: yeah, actually for me, reliability worths a lot more than GR. I hate experiencing CDs/NMRs/Multis for which a viable solution would offer me the feeling I can join safely without risking a multi or resigns. I gladly play with newbies, if they don't NMR.
Newmunich (208 D(B))
13 Oct 12 UTC
A couple thoughts:

- I would like to se a mininum number of CDs then banishment. I'm tired of games that go for two years then someone CDs. I suggest a limit of 3 CDs and your account and email address are baned from site. Of course you could still get around this but at least let's try to limit CDs as much as possible.

- I would like to see a "email game initiator" button next to password protected games. I would like to get in on some of these but don't know how.

- I've been playing for awhile and still don't understand how tomget involved with tourneys. Instructions somewhere might help.

- as for advertising, my profession is digital marketing and product dev - I would recommend some more guerilla tactics then online ads. Maybe hold live games at an event each year - comiccon, dragoncon, or one of the many game convensions. I would contribute to helping finance this.

- question : how many active users are on the site now? If active is defined as actively playing a current game and what is the churn rate - how many people are lapse in playing. Do we have a high rate of churn because the game is hard to master?

- to help with new players we may want to look at having an autoplay mode where new players can try to game agianst the computer rather than real players. It is intimidating to start playing humans right away.
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Oct 12 UTC
Roka - just one comment on your inital thought. Passworded games are private. They should *never* be opened up so someone without the password can get in. Period. Anon or not. Privateis private. Do you think you should be allowed to just walk up to anyone's hoise and walk right in? My passworded games are my "house" here and I will be damned if someone will just walk right in. If that were to happen, I would leave here for.good.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Oct 12 UTC
Newmunich…

3 CDs? That would get SD (along with tons of others) banned. Do you want that?

Tourneys are player-made. Look for one, that's all you can do.
Fortress Door (1837 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
well, if they did that, the forum would get a lot saner and it would be easier to get on the top 100! :P
trip (696 D(B))
13 Oct 12 UTC
Actually, Draug, I was the one who brought up passworded games. All that rok said is that they aren't really anon, which is true.
achillies27 (100 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
Newmunich, I agree with your CD rule about banning... But some people when they are new play live games and either lose Internet or forget. I would like it a little higher for them to be banned, like 8ish.
Fortress Door (1837 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
O_O. Achillies wants me banned..... and SD, and countless otehrs
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Oct 12 UTC
There has to be a limitation on that, as in the number gets erased if you have none for a certain amount of time.
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Oct 12 UTC
And GR isn't official. Kestas has said so. That is why it isn't part of the site and, at least for now, can't be used as a tool for finding games in search or setting them up with a GR range.

If ther is one thing I'd like to see, it is GR integration and Reliability Ratings. Ok that was two things.
achillies27 (100 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
Actually, if you would have the Banning thing, I would like it MUCH higher.. At least 20 CDs to be banned, if not more.
achillies27 (100 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
Happy Fortress?
And yeah, I agree with Bo as well.
Fortress Door (1837 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
achillies, there should be NO RULE ABOUT CD BANNINGS WHATSOEVER

it is not in the sites rules to not resign, so it cannot be banned
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Oct 12 UTC
Maybe you could get docked points at a certain point, locked out of games at some point, and banned at some point.. that would get the message across. The some points would have to be significantly separated so that internet going out for a week doesn't get you kicked out of 15 games.
Zmaj (215 D(B))
13 Oct 12 UTC
Writing in all caps makes you more convincing.

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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Oct 12 UTC
Site LAGGGGG
Who else is getting this and on what browser? I have had it on Chrome, Firefox, and Safari. Been forced to get two live games sat for me lately.
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
12 Oct 12 UTC
Smartest Person on the site
Who do you suppose it is? I've had debates with many, and President Eden MafiaAlligator, Semck, and even Putin (nauseatingly enough) come to mind for me. Place Your votes below by name or by +1ing a name already mentioned. Feel free to make your case why...
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achillies27 (100 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
I'd enjoy a game of good ol' Diplo.
EoG!
I was france, who was who? it got cancelled, so no link.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Oct 12 UTC
Another hypothetical question...
How can a hypothetical question with no names at all be a cheating accusation?
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Yonni (136 D(S))
10 Sep 12 UTC
WebDip Triathlon Round 3
See within.
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
13 Oct 12 UTC
EoG: All your base...
Sarg is a noob.
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General Iroh (0 DX)
13 Oct 12 UTC
Another Italy that needs to be replaced
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=101512&msgCountryID=6
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
#KrellinIsScarlectJohnson EOG
Germany, you are a cunt
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Oct 12 UTC
BOG: #Krellin
Game hasn't started yet, but like 4 people just joined within 3 seconds of each other. Any predictions?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Oct 12 UTC
let's try this hyppthetical again...
Forget what happened yesterday. I would also like to hear the mods input on this.

Is it cheating to try and harass a player into drawing in an anon live gunboat by posting on the forum even if you leave off the gameid? I say it is metagaming and a violation of gunboat press rules, but I would like to get the community and the mods input on this.
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Bonaparte23 (695 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
EoG Saturday Stab
How pro-england do you have to be as France in order to get an alliance going? omg, I kept going towards the southeast and hold myself against germany, so you could fight him. but instead you grabbed my centers and lost against germany. Same goes with germany, I tried to make turkey draw after that horrible austria sign out, and you take marseille, so I can't build a fleet to suppress him? seriously guys, you're just asking to lose, learn to take a hint.
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
Hypothetical Questions
Let's say someone has two thread about the same topic, would that person explode?

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General Iroh (0 DX)
13 Oct 12 UTC
An alright Italy that needs to be replaced.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=101494&msgCountryID=1&rand=59703#chatboxanchor
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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
13 Oct 12 UTC
DHARMATON
YOUS BACK DAWG
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
13 Oct 12 UTC
Better Than Taking a Cold Shower With Someone you Dislike EOG
THIS IS WHY I DON'T PUSH FOR SOLO'S MORE
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