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Friendly Sword (636 D)
03 Aug 10 UTC
PFC Bradley Manning
A hero of the twenty-first century?
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Octavious (2701 D)
06 Aug 10 UTC
The weird ways of Johnny Foreigner
As you travel the world more and more you begin to understand that people from all nations and backgrounds are basically the same. Then, just when you're beginning to feel at one with the society you're visiting, you come face to face with a concept so bizarre and alien it leaves you in a state of open jawed incomprehension. Lets hear some stories of the weird things foreigners do!
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The_Master_Warrior (10 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
Favorite Military Operation
What's yours?
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Operation Linebacker II

North Vietnam, December 1972 = Very bad place to be

The USAF's SAC and the USN dropped forty million pounds of munitions on North Vietnam in eleven days.

Textbook shock-and-awe. We should have done it 10 years before 1972.

What's a better way to say "We're really sick of your guerilla-commie bullshit." than to carpet-bomb a country around the clock for 11 days?

America, Fuck yeah! Love it.
svenson (101 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
I'm sure the thousands of civilians in North Vietnam loved being bombed as well. Also they probably loved being without 80% of their electricity.
Aussieboi (0 DX)
04 Aug 10 UTC
No, Has to be Operation Barabrossa
frito (408 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
Operation El Dorado Canyon
Aussieboi (0 DX)
04 Aug 10 UTC
Never heard of it Frito- pls explain?
JuliaGillard (0 DX)
04 Aug 10 UTC
D-Day
largeham (149 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
I'm sure those 15 Libyan civilians loved it.
largeham (149 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
But, in the spirit of the thread, Operation Uranus was carried out beautifully.
Aussieboi (0 DX)
04 Aug 10 UTC
only 15? big deal, ha ha ha... hardly a Military operation.
Aussieboi (0 DX)
04 Aug 10 UTC
Is that a real operation, or simply a joke?
taylornottyler (100 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
Operation Iraqi Freedom
largeham (149 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
It was, google it.
Really taylornottyler?
JuliaGillard (0 DX)
04 Aug 10 UTC
taylornottyler? how arrogant! That was a disaster, and now you all run from the damage you have caused. And Iraq is no safer than it was 6 yrs ago, let alone 9 when saddam was in power. Get a brain
Invictus (240 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
I'd feel pretty uncomfortable describing a military operation as my "favorite." I mean, my "favorite" one would be one which is over quickly, cost very little money, had no casualties, and rid the world of an unambiguous evil. I don't think such an operation exists.

"Interesting" would be a better word, in which case I'd say Barbarossa. I mean, the largest land battle in world history fought between two equally unsavory countries is pretty fascinating.

Certainly much more so than the Christmas Bombings which only achieved a graceful exit for US forces from South Vietnam before the North invaded. If you really understood Vietnam War you'd see that that operation exposes how wrong-headed the whole conflict was. If anything, this operation is a glaring example of American impotence in the war since the full might of the US military bombings only got an agreement which doomed South Vietnam to communist rule. As is the case throughout the entire history of our misguided adventure there, we won the battle but lost the war. Hardly something sincere patriot (that's not sarcastic) like the Professor should call his favorite.
Schlieffen Plan
Invictus (240 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
Iraq is safer than six years ago and safer than when Saddam was in power. Still an awful place, still a conflict badly handled, but it's certainly better than before. In a decade Iraq will be like Egypt is now, and Egypt will be like Iraq is now. At best.

Whether it was the best thing for the US to do is a completely separate matter, but it certainly will end up being a good thing for Iraq in the end.
JuliaGillard (0 DX)
04 Aug 10 UTC
it was an unjustified invasion. Bring on the impeachment of Bush and Blair
Aussieboi (0 DX)
04 Aug 10 UTC
Anyone who watches the news has seen that Iraq now has had its 2nd mostly deadliest month on record (civilian-wise) since the invasion, and America decides enough is enough? Not a victory whatsoever, but another Vietnam.
"We're losing so let's just leave them to their own devices"
Invictus (240 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
That'll be hard to do since Bush isn't President and Blair isn't Prime Minister.

Come on on the enough is enough stuff. The pullout at the end of this month was set in 2008 under Bush. Things are a lot better than in 2005 at the worst of the violence. Iraq's still a sucky place but it will be OK enough in the end. Comparing it to Vietnam is a false analogy. Look at what Christopher Hitchens has to say about it for a very reasoned analysis of the differences between the wars from a guy who hated the Vietnam War but supports the Iraq War, and didn't really support Desert Storm.

Also it was justified. A major part of the justification turned out to be inaccurate, but not the non-compliance of Iraq with UN resolutions. Add to that the fact that Iraq had been shooting at US and British and others' aircraft in the no-fly zones since 1998. Was it the best idea ever thought up? No, but bumper sticker cries like "unjustified invasion" are pretty unjustified themselves.

Plus, can you imagine if one of Saddam's sons succeeded him? Or fought a civil war between them for control? Anything could have happened then. The successor son could have had another crack at Kuwait or Saudi Arabia or Iran. In a civil war Iran could have invaded to protect the Shiites and we'd have an even more powerful and influential Iran with nothing for the United States to do about it. Of course it would be wrong to justify the war based on what-ifs, but it would also be wrong to not consider that maybe doing nothing could have been much worse. Maybe.
taylornottyler (100 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
Yussss, pot successfully stirred. Personally, I think that Custer's final stand was cool. Battle of little big horn. Go Natives!
Aussieboi (0 DX)
04 Aug 10 UTC
Civil war is an 85% probability, even from American Strategists, but no, cause the trouble, accept 4400 deaths(measly) and leave... great game America lol
Aussieboi (0 DX)
04 Aug 10 UTC
Oh yes, conveniently, you forget the real reason or publicized reason for the 2nd invasion--- oooohhh Iraq and Al-Qaeda are linked- NO proof, and since proven erronious, a little like the WMD argument for the first one no?
Urel (1005 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
Definitely the War of the Bavarian Succession (July 1778 – May 1779). The last of the so called cabinets wars - just moving around armies and not battle - merely like chess. ;)
Urel (1005 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
The monarchs which raised war against each other had a deal not to go into battle. ;)
aum (602 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
A better thread would be favorite operation NAMES, e.g. Operation Just Cause, Operation Acid Gambit, Operation Market Garden
Invictus (240 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
Without getting into semantics over what constitutes a civil war, the US military did prevent Iraq from being taken over by the radical Islamists during the worst of the Insurgency, something which wouldn't have happened in a civil war following post-Saddam crisis without the invasion. Again, that's no way to justify a war by using hypotheticals, but if Iraq were going to have a civil war better it certainly is better for the region and Iraq's future for it to be done with America involved, keeping the worst from winning.

"and leave... great game America lol"

You'd rather America stay?

Iraq and al Qaeda were linked. By very little. No one says no proof, but very little. And it turns out there wasn't a serious WMD program. That was a mistake unparalleled in our nation's history. But it was an honest mistake. An honest, terrible mistake.

Like I said before, and you would have noticed if you weren't busy puking talking points, Iraq is better today than it was before because Saddam was removed and democracy is at least a serious possibility. That doesn't mean it was the best choice for America, but Iraq will benefit from it in the long run. Benefit in the sort of way that India got English and railroads from British involvement.

So don't assume the US invasion was the worst thing that could have happened. Imagine a broken Iraq that got rid of Saddam itself with no US army to try to keep order and keep Iran out. Imagine Uday or Qusay ruling just as ruthlessly. It's easy to be against the war, it's a lot hard to really thing about it and realize the nuances.
largeham (149 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
My hats off to your trolling taylornottyler ;)
Urel (1005 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
@Invictus: Iraq and al Qaeda weren't linked at all. Thats simply a lie as the WMD-thread from Iraq was. Saddam was a secular dictator and al Qaeda sets itself as a religiously justified organisation. Thats like fire and water. Everything that was taken as motivation to go to war in Iraq in Colin Powels speach at the security council was a lie. (Did anyone recognized that the copy of Picasso's "Guernica" at the security council was hidden that day?) If I'd had to guess, I would say it was a personal revenge for everything that came after 1990.

Nevertheless Iraq is better off without Saddams regime, at least in long term.
Miro Klose (595 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
What a fascist thread, this forum reached a new high.
largeham (149 D)
04 Aug 10 UTC
Not a new high, a new low.

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ava2790 (232 D(S))
02 Jul 10 UTC
Commentary for "School of Classy (We Show You How)"
gameID=32686. Commentary rules and player list below.
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Conservative Man (100 D)
07 Aug 10 UTC
What is the most ironic thing ever?
Here's one ironic thing: The creator of Stormfront, a white-supremist (read: idiotic) website has the last name of Black.
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Conservative Man (100 D)
07 Aug 10 UTC
How's this for weird?
There's this girl at my high school who screams at the top of the lungs whenever she gets frustrated or stressed out. Sometimes we're just working in class and we suddenly hear screaming, and all the freshman are like, "why isn't anybody doing anything?"
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Conservative Man (100 D)
07 Aug 10 UTC
I have to go to bed
I didn't want to post this in each debate I'm having.
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Conservative Man (100 D)
05 Aug 10 UTC
Wow. The New Testament actually spells out in the which commandments we have to obey.
Read Mathew 19: 16-30. And note that when Jesus told the man to sell his possessions, he was actually saying one additional commandment we have to obey: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. The man was putting his possessions before God, that is why Jesus told him to sell everything.
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frito (408 D)
05 Aug 10 UTC
Please Help Science
I am entering the third year of a science research class at my high school and so far I have had limited success with my topic, cryptozoology. I mounted an expedition to find Bigfoot, but came up empty handed. In order to have results to present at competition next year I have shifted the focus of the project and I would really appreciate it if you could take this survey.
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Iceray0 (266 D(B))
06 Aug 10 UTC
Website
A long time ago someone posted a link to websites containing different opening strategies, as well as other strategies. I was hoping somebody could post me a link here. Thank you.
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pyrofpz (0 DX)
07 Aug 10 UTC
happala
yo like theres a new live game goin on, and if you joined that would be hella awesome.
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curtis (8870 D)
07 Aug 10 UTC
live gunboat wta
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flashman (2274 D(G))
05 Aug 10 UTC
I want to know where you are...
Yes, you!
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Perry6006 (5409 D)
06 Aug 10 UTC
777 game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=35293
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ptk310 (141 D)
05 Aug 10 UTC
Advertise World Diplomacy Games!
I've had troubles getting players to join a game of world diplomacy, I havent played this game type so i really want to so please join and use this thread to help members find your games!
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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
02 Aug 10 UTC
An exemplary partnership
gameID=34979

Kudos to Russia and Germany in this game. I don't believe I've ever seen a partnership work this well. When you factor in that there was no messaging allowed in this game, their alliance was literally incredible.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
06 Aug 10 UTC
Je care pas
a propos toi
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ptk310 (141 D)
06 Aug 10 UTC
New world diplomacy game starting!!!!
We still need 13 players and it starts in 11 hours so please come and join!
gameID=35209
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pyrofpz (0 DX)
06 Aug 10 UTC
live games
live games, hella quick paced. join now! please like seriously
oh my, just join a game already
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Captain_Jay (241 D)
05 Aug 10 UTC
Failed orders
During Autumn, 5, in gameID=34421, Egypt convoyed an army from Cyprus to Sidon and had support from Tyre and Arabia. Support hold from Antioch was cut, leaving one unit against three. Why did the move fail
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
05 Aug 10 UTC
Obiwan and the TV Church: Attempting To Understand The People of the Book and Their Point
Well, it's a common criticism of me when I speak at school, on the bus, on this site-iif you're going to criticize the Judeo-Christian Tradition, you HAVE to give it a fair shot first, church and all.
So I'm tuned into "Uplifiting" on Dict TV: All Bible Study and Christian Church programming, all the time! (First observation--Christians can't afford better production values for their Holy Netowrk?) ;)
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
04 Aug 10 UTC
Apologies to Babak, The Czech, and Ava
re: our live game last night. I did not anticipate it taking as long as it did, or I would not have signed up for it to begin with. I will not make that particular mistake again
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
30 Jul 10 UTC
Winning, Boring Play and Some Stats
A question that has been bugging me for a while and has come up recently. How does one actually go about *winning* a diplomacy game, and why are some people better than others.... more inside.
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flashman (2274 D(G))
05 Aug 10 UTC
'I'm eating a sandwich now..'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10877768

And not a moment too soon either...
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
05 Aug 10 UTC
End of phase "Now" problem
Every single game seems to have "Now" as the end of phase time...when obviously they aren't.
Can anyone look into this?
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
31 Jul 10 UTC
August Ghost-Ratings List Up
Current-list and All-time lists updated.

http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net
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Conservative Man (100 D)
05 Aug 10 UTC
Stupid Diplomacy Question
You can't retreat to a space where there was just a bounce, right?
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Benibo (727 D)
06 Aug 10 UTC
Search the forum
Hello, I'm new here.
I would like to know if there is a way to search something in the forum.
This is because I don't want to bother you with questions that are probably already answered somewhere.
Regards.
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cujo8400 (300 D)
31 Jul 10 UTC
Juggernaut Football League
On Yahoo Fantasy Sports:
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Conservative Man (100 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Government is not good
But this website says it is: http://www.governmentisgood.com/index.php

First person to spot the logical fallacy in this website's argument, wins!
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