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Condescension (10 D X)
03 Feb 17 UTC
Browser Extension To Hide The Forum
Would anybody use a browser extension that removes the forum from the site, so you don't see it at all?
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Peregrine Falcon (2201 D (B))
03 Feb 17 UTC
How does muting work?
I've never muted someone in a game before. Therefore, I am quite ignorant about how it works. Clearly if player A is muted by player B, B won't receive any messages from A while they're muted. What happens when B unmutes A? Do all the messages A sent to B while B had A muted suddenly appear, or are they lost forever?
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brainbomb (474 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
New spoken word/music (mothlion)
Listen to So fucking sick of memes (spoken word) by mothlion #np on #SoundCloud

https://soundcloud.com/mothlion/so-fucking-sick-of-memes
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slypups (1889 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
When it's time to change your URL redirect...
Has anyone been to http://trumpsucks.com ?
Cause that train already went off the cliff. Maybe time to change the redirect.
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cspieker (18223 D)
01 Feb 17 UTC
New game Classic
Just went to a FTF tourney. Was fun. Want to play some more classic using the standard tourney rules (except of course 1 Day turns instead of 12 minutes).

Set it at 101d to filter for more reliable players. If that's too steep but you like the rest, chime in here, and I will make a new one with lower bet.
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Condescension (10 D X)
31 Jan 17 UTC
Trump is now a child murderer.
:^)

Good job, conservatives.
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slypups (1889 D)
01 Feb 17 UTC
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Trump Supreme Court nominee makes the court lopsided for decades
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316853-trump-taps-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court
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slypups (1889 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
@JamesYanik - agree with that (except pretty sure Normal Left does not believe leftism is wrong - a typo I'm sure).
slypups (1889 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
@CB - ask ND, he has the stats to back up my position.
ND (879 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
@Condescension: I gave you evidence and I believe in the executive order due to the evidence.
CommanderByron (869 D (S))
02 Feb 17 UTC
@slypus- I mean which two of the CB party platform don't you agree with. I'm honestly just curious. (I am considering running for local political office so seeing what ideas of mine people don't match into is of interest to me)
JamesYanik (548 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
@slypups

"@JamesYanik - I can equate the death penalty with abortion, at least I could if I believed fetuses were entitled to human rights that trumped the rights of their human hosts."

that's one hell of a debate to have, though in a purely natural state, there is no reason to be against abortion. another life form is taking energy from you. kill it. In society, I'm actually with Clinton "safe, legal and rare" ... not with Clinton on her earlier position with late-term abortions, but she changed that, And on gay marriage. The problem I have is people asking for free birth control, demanding I pay to regulate their sexual behavior... "please fuck responsibly." One person whom I constantly see hailed as a hero is Lena Dunham who for me is one of the most soulless human beings alive. Still, the solution is actually perfectly simple. Advance medical technology to make abortions unnecessary beyond the earliest stages, so that fetus viability is massively increased. It's a bit more scientific than what I've heard on both the right and left so far.

"But if you believe fetuses are humans, then both abortion and the death penalty kill people unnecessarily - they are equal in that way."

My only problem is that the death penalty kills SOME people unnecessarily. I do believe some people should be put to death, but it's our inefficiency on this matter that upsets me.

"Why is an innocent and helpless adult entitled to less mercy and consideration than a fetus?"

He isn't entitled to less mercy. The question is solely our ability to determined who is and is not an "innocent and helpless adult" which is never a consideration for a fetus/baby/sack of cells that will one day call you momma and papa
JamesYanik (548 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
@slypups

it was a typo sorry!!!
JamesYanik (548 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
@CB

"I am for socialized healthcare, energy, and water"

this is where you'll lose a lot of people, especially in small communities.
slypups (1889 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
@CommanderByron - social security and the ACA. I think we need some form of socialized medicine and retirement assistance because we're pretty awful as a group about planning ahead for down times, and since we're unwilling as a society to let people just die who are not prepared for unexpected loss of earning power + longevity late in life or who have not self-insured for medical problems, I prefer required insurance in these areas to allowing freeloading. That's not to say social security and ACA are the best mechanisms. I'd be convinced to abandon them if offered something better. That's why I'm only weakly against your positions there, and may even be for them if you have a better replacement idea for them.
slypups (1889 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
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@JamesYanik - I can respect those positions. I'm a pacifist and think it's wrong to kill people no matter what they do. If they're dangerous, just incarcerate them until they die. I try to let my vicious put-them-to-death tendencies out in harmless forms like eliminating a player in WebDip.

I'd have more respect for the people who disdain socialized healthcare if they would refuse to accept it when they realize they need it. Somehow, that rarely happens - suddenly they have a desire to live. Odd that.
CommanderByron (869 D (S))
02 Feb 17 UTC
@slypus- I am only against them if offered a better replacement but I feel someone should be working on those replacements as we speak. So it would appear you are a full fledged member of the CB party. Welcome aboard. We have cookies. And smallpox blankets.

In regards to those replacements I've though if a replacement for SS that works more like a generational saving account. The simple explanation is that you have whatever % removed from your paycheck. It accumulates in an account and gains interest. When you retire you live off that, when you die your earnings are distributed evenly to your children's accounts. If they are minors yheir guardian will receive a set amount monthly from each of their account for child raising. The government will have an account of its own which it accumulates through people who fail to have dependents and through a small 1% fee charged every time money is used from the account. Say you get 1000$ a month retirement, the government will take 10$ a month from that same account. In theory the money will compound over generations. I don't claim this is flaw free but I feel it is far better. Especially since this makes it less like a communal pot and more like a government mandated savings program. This also keep the government from dipping its gurney little hands in and spending all of your money.
CommanderByron (869 D (S))
02 Feb 17 UTC
ACA needs to just be replaced by full socialized healthcare. Simpe
slypups (1889 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
@CB - where do I send my party check to get my smallpox blanket and cookies?

Pretty good approach. Still trying to figure out what to do with those that simply didn't have a great paying job through life and don't have much savings when they retire. But I guess as long as it's enough to live on, you've got to live with that. Probably need some government assistance for those that could not save enough to live on when they can no longer work (some because of sloth, others for more legitimate reasons).

Any truly long term plan needs to face that automation and machine intelligence will eventually replace so many jobs that many people will be unemployed through no fault of their own and may not be able to find any work. I could see us getting to a point where only 10% of people are employed. Of course, no one can announce any platform/plan for this, because the American people don't want to hear this. But the solution to that will have to be a complete rethinking of the current economic system based on employment. This could be as close as 10 years away, but more likely it is still 20-30 years off - near enough that it will seriously affect many people entering the job market today, but far enough off that people will continue to ignore/deny it.
JamesYanik (548 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
@ND

Thanks for getting back to us. now I will asses whether or not your research corroborates the claim that immigrants from the banned countries have a higher proportion of terrorist attacks!

"Research

“More than 55 percent of all attacks took place in five countries (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, and Nigeria), and 74 percent of all deaths due to terrorist attacks took place in five countries (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nigeria, and Syria).”

(Please note that two of the nations on this list have been temporarily restricted due to Trump’s executive order: Iraq and Syria.)"

This does not matter, as many people immigrating are FLEEING violence. To ban the countries, you must focus on the motives of the immigrants. You need to prove that these nation-states are in a position where their immigrants possess more of a reason for committing acts of terrorism than surrounding states' immigrants.

“The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL/ISIS) was responsible for 31 percent fewer terrorist attacks in Iraq, the number of attacks carried out by ISIL in Syria increased by 39 percent.

-- The geographic reach of attacks by ISIL and its affiliates expanded as several existing terrorist groups pledged allegiance to ISIL. In addition to Boko Haram in West Africa, the most active of these ISIL branches were located in Afghanistan/Pakistan, Egypt, Libya, and Yemen.”

-Please note that some of these countries include Libya, Yemen, Syria and Iraq (all restricted temporarily)- "

so... the population is more violent, so you're banning them altogether. This does not prove that the immigrants are more prone to terrorism, but basic statistics would give us a higher concentration of terrorists ceteris paribus. We'd need to take into account more factors than just this for a solidified conclusion.

"http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/11774-number-terror-attacks-worldwide-dropped-13-2015

Review of this relevant source evidence: Many of the suspects on this list come from Pakistan and Nigeria, but some also come from Iraq."

still, the population is more violent therefore the immigrants must be as well. You need to directly address motive for immigration though

"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#Islamic_extremism and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsuccessful_terrorist_plots_in_the_United_States_post-9/11

This document reviews 60 Terrorist Plots since 9/11. Published in 2013. Interesting cases include: Lackawanna Six (2002), Nuradin M. Abdi (2003), Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar (2006), Air Cargo Bomb Plot (2010), Mohamad Osman Mohamud (2010), Iranian Terror Plot (2011), AQAP Plane Bomb Plot (2012), Chiheb Esseghaier and Raed Jaser (2013).

These foiled plots include plots supported or directed or having involvement with temporarily restricted nations.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/07/60-terrorist-plots-since-911-continued-lessons-in-domestic-counterterrorism and

http://dailysignal.com/2015/09/10/a-timeline-of-73-islamist-terror-plots-since-911/
This is a list of individuals in the United States who have left to join Islamic terrorist organizations.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-uncovered/americans-15-who-left-united-states-join-isis-n573611

Additional information of individuals who have left to join ISIS. Some are from temporarily restricted nations or connected to traveling to those nations. "

I'm listing from your source "http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/07/60-terrorist-plots-since-911-continued-lessons-in-domestic-counterterrorism"

The new US President has imposed a controversial 90-day ban on travellers from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen

60 TERRORIST ATTEMPTS AT USA, AND COUNTRIES FROM

49/60 not from targeted countries
11/60 from targeted countries

1. British citizen, trained in Afghanistan. not on the list of 7
2. Came from Pakistan
3. Born in New York, trained in Afghanistan
4. Pakistanis, not on list of 7
5. Ohio, originally from India
6. American from Jordan
7. India, Afghanistan, and USA, father of one WAS Iraqi- not counting it though
8. Somalia
9. Pakistan
10. US citizens
11. Iraq
12. Pakistan
13. USA
14. USA
15. Iraq
16. Iran
17. Pakistan and USA
18. Haiti and USA, (funding from Yemen, but not immigrants from)
19. Lebanon
20. Pakistani involvement
21. USA
22. Pakistan, UK, Panama, USA, Rome
23. USA
24. Guyana, South America
25. USA
26. USA
27. USA/hispanic
28. USA/haitian
29. USA
30. Pakistan
31. Afghanistan
32. Jordan
33. USA
34. Iraq et. al
35. USA afghanistan
36. Nigeria/london - involved in Yemen, i'll allow it
37. Pakistan
38. Pakistan
39. USA
40. Pakistan
41. Yemen - not technically immigrant but i'll count it
42. Somalia
43. USA
44. Saudi Arabia
45. Algeria/Morcco
46. Ethiopia
47. USA
48. Uzbekistan
49. USA
50. USA
51. Iran
52. Dominican Republic
53. Kosovo
54. Morocco
55. Yemen
56. USA
57. Bangladesh
58. Pakistan
59. Chechnya/USA
60. supported by element in Iran, will count

11/60 had background from targeted areas by Trump 49/60 did NOT
HOWEVER: a ban would not apply to already naturalized citizens, so only a permanent ban would have stopped it.

"https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/isis-suspects/

This link includes information about Syrian Refugees and how some have turned to terror after getting a refugee status: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322649/The-enemy-Nearly-SEVENTY-arrested-America-ISIS-plots-include-refugees-given-safe-haven-turned-terror.html

“America over ISIS plots in the last 18 months - including refugees who had been given safe haven but 'turned to terror'
• Federal and local law enforcement agencies have made dozens of arrests of men and women suspected of ISIS involvement
• Analysis shows that they include refugees who entered the United States as refugees”


Additional evidence: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/21/us/6-somali-americans-arrested-in-isis-recruiting-case.html

There are countless more articles like these that suggest foiled terror attacks within the United States. Some of which are connected to the temporarily restricted nations from Trump’s executive orders.

This list does not even include really examples of terror in those countries of in Europe. "


Refugee argument seems to genuinely check out, saying there is a legitimate danger form Syria

But, let's go back to the earlier list, and we can see that the muslim ban is not as effective as it could be.


MY CONCLUSION:
ND: the refugee crisis needs to be taken seriously, and whether or not people like it, denial of entry from Syria is a legitimate proposal. However, the ban on immigrants in the targeted countries is entirely ineffective compared the mass amounts of support from other areas such as Afghanistan and Pakistan. The claim that immigrants from this region are more prone to terrorism is wrong in regards to the states, and not determinable in Europe.

Without further data, that will be all
JamesYanik (548 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
@slypups

"I'd have more respect for the people who disdain socialized healthcare if they would refuse to accept it when they realize they need it. Somehow, that rarely happens - suddenly they have a desire to live. Odd that"

If someone said I'll kill you if you don't kill this random guy named slypups, does my killing you come justified because i want to live? no. the wrongdoing of the idea is consistent regardless of selfish behavior in hypocrites.

secondly, many people who DO use socialized healthcare, actually payed the money for it, and are privy to its services. ironically it's the poor who are on the receiving end of a service they were handed from other people's money
slypups (1889 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
@JY

I'm not making the kill or be killed connection to my statement about healthcare, so not sure how to respond to that.

Most people pay who use socialized healthcare are paying for it (currently, you have to pay). And others use it who have not paid because they could not afford to pay for it. Human decency says we help people, so I'm not going to turn someone away because they are poor. But it's quite frustrating when those who could afford to pay into the system don't want to do so and want to change the system so they don't have to pay, but if faced with a need later would not hesitate to use the system.

And yes the poor get much more from socialized health care than the wealthy. But on the other hand, the wealthy get much more from national defense (protecting their wealth) than the poor, who have little-to-no wealth protected by national defense spending.
Lethologica (203 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
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"Refugee argument seems to genuinely check out, saying there is a legitimate danger form Syria"

Really? I see 21 mentions of Syria in the DailyMail article, all of which are non-Syrians (mostly people born in the US) attempting to go fight in Syria or send money/arms to Syria. The only immigrants related to Syria are some Bosnians trying to traffick weapons. Then there are some Somali immigrants, one Yemeni, all oriented towards Syria. Literally the only immigrant planning an attack in the US is from Cuba.

Most of those people are also in the WaPo article. But, aha! Here at last we find a nonzero number of Iraqis and Syrians. Two are naturalized citizens who were never refugees who lied about having ISIS ties. Two were refugees from Iraq who were planning to go to fight in the Middle-East.

Apparently there is a legitimate danger *to* Syria *from* the US.
Lethologica (203 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
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So, y'know, when Donald Trump lines up the executive order banning terror-prone Americans from traveling to Syria, maybe I'll give it a second glance. It'll still be idiotic, but at least it'll be consistent with the implications of ND's evidence, and that's what's really important, right?
Jamiet99uk (25 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
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Another day, another case of ND being wrong.
Condescension (10 D X)
02 Feb 17 UTC
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@ND do you understand what 'per capita' means?
Condescension (10 D X)
02 Feb 17 UTC
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You explicitly claimed to have statistics on per-capita terrorist attack attempts by immigrants from these countries in the United States. You lied.
Condescension (10 D X)
02 Feb 17 UTC
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All of the evidence you posted would be the case whether or not the immigration process was broken. So it has no bearing on it.
Ogion (4378 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
Of course he lied, Condecenscion. He's a conservative. All they have are "alternative facts" and fake news provided by Russia.
Condescension (10 D X)
02 Feb 17 UTC
I don't think that's true. At least it wasn't before 2016. There are reasonable, intelligent conservatives. I don't think Trump supporters are necessarily conservative.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
02 Feb 17 UTC
@Ogion, being a conservative doesn't mean he lied.

Being wrong does not coorelate with being a conservative, and lying about being wrong is also not a particularily conservative trait.

Of course having no evidence but thinking that it confirms your point of view is called confirmation bias, you pick and choose the things you can find which support your pre-existing beliefs. And this is also not a conservative trait, it is a bias we all hold.

The fact that he singularily failed to provide what was offered isn't really that much of a surprise.

But this is a much harder issue in any case, given that previously we were talking about the economic effects of mexican/latin american migration. (Which is pretty ficking hard to measure, as there is a groos positive and negative contribution) Crime, on the other hand should be pretty clear cut.

The number of extreme right-wing (mostly white, always men) terrorists is a cause for concern. But it is unclear how to do a proper per capita calculation.

Do you only take all white people, or all american born people, or do you only count second generation Americans? Or do you get really specific and only look at extreme right-wingers...

Obviously for migrants you can simply compare the crime rate of those from the 7 nations listed to those from (say) saudi arabia, oman, russia, ukraine, afghanistan, pakistan...
orathaic (1009 D (B))
02 Feb 17 UTC
But more importantly, Trump is a business man... And well: https://m.mic.com/articles/167048/which-countries-is-trump-banning-there-s-something-these-7-nations-have-in-common#.H1jy6CP0d
Ogion (4378 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
Actually, lying is very much a disproportionately conservative trait. First, there is the clinging to verifiably false positions, for example on evolution and climate change that are in this category. Also, the "economics" behind tax cuts and trickle down notions. Second, looking at the false statements by politicians gives a good metric. For example, in the last election of the 17 Republican's and three democrats including Obama, the three most honest, truth telling per politfact were Clinton, Sanders, and Obama in order. All the Republicans were worse, with Trump, the candidate selected by conservatives as the least honest by far. That says a lot. Thrird, the fake news business is entirely directed at conservatives because, as the people writing the fake news will tell you, liberal fake news stories don't take off because they get debunked by basic fact checking very quickly. This means the money is made on the conservative side, because that is who uncritically forwards emails. Then there is the phenomenal slandering of Hillary Clinton who has been cleared on every conservative witch hunt going back thirty years, while Trump has repeatedly been found guilty of fraud and tax fraud and been charged civil penalties, yet conservatives think Clinton is corrupt despite a mountain of evidence to the exact contrary. Finally, we have a conservative administration that has been shown to be lying more or less nonstop and peddling "alternative facts" which are easily debunked, yet widely believed by conservatives.

So yes, lying is disproportionately and nearly exclusively a conservative trait. Those are simply the facts
orathaic (1009 D (B))
02 Feb 17 UTC
I think you will find that it is believing authority figures which is the conservative trait.

Conservatives love to have an authority tell them what to do, to not have to worry about facts because the authority tells them what to believe. This is why religious people, ie those who want to subscribe to an authoritarian church or God figure, tend to lean right more than left.

Even though Jesus was clearly a socialist revolutionady...

The status of being authoritarian, does not in itself mean you are more likely to lie. To spread lies put forth by our authoritarian leaders, yes. But to believe them unquestionably and repeat them just makes you wrong, not a lier.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
02 Feb 17 UTC
(Though i do concede you have a point, it is highly probably that republicans have gotten away with spreading lies due to having an authoritarian voter base... That doesn't make ND or anyone else here a lier)
TrPrado (441 D Mod)
02 Feb 17 UTC
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Looking at that list of 60, Yanik speaks of 2 somewhat related to Iran. The first was Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar. He was born in Iran, but was raised in the United States from the age of two and became a naturalized American citizen. The other was supported by an element in Iran, but that same element is religiously antagonistic to Iran and Iranians, and neither of the perpetrators were from Iran or any of the other 7 banned nations.

ND cites the Iran Terror Plot of 2011 specifically. It was a government plot to be carried out on a Saudi ambassador in New York. Government officials are not barred from entry to the US.


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orathaic (1009 D (B))
31 Jan 17 UTC
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Alternatives to the nation-state
Because we can't seem to imagine a better system, we should.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329850-600-end-of-nations-is-there-an-alternative-to-countries/
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ssorenn (3227 D (G))
01 Feb 17 UTC
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Peanut gallery game
We need a thread that's devoted to diplomacy to be front and center. All this crap about politics is taking up way too much bandwidth here.
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yavuzovic (255 D)
01 Feb 17 UTC
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Why I cannot create a Known World 901 game at the moment?
Sorry. I accidentally mute my other thread.
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leon1122 (175 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
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President Trump is bans immigration from 7 countries and begins building the wall!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/refugees-immigrants-wall-trump.html?_r=0
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Hellenic Riot (1619 D (G))
02 Feb 17 UTC
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February GR Updated
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist
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gogopowerrangers (50 D X)
02 Feb 17 UTC
How to report multiplayer to Admin?
Sorry that I am new here, I suspect someone is being a multiplayer, how do I report?
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wpfieps (440 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
Breaking News
Next week, the prez will be signing an executive order banning Krellin from playing Diplomacy for 90 days.
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djnogueira (220 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
F AEG S F BS-BUL NC
So in a game I have someone made this move:
The fleet at Aegean Sea support move to Bulgaria from Black Sea.
The fleet at Black Sea move to Bulgaria (North Coast).
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Randomizer (0 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
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Leave No Lawyer Unemployed
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/31/us/trump-lawsuits-travel-ban-conflicts-interest/index.html

Setting a record number of lawsuits against him in his first weeks in office, Trump is determined to lower unemployment for lawyers.
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Mapu (362 D)
01 Feb 17 UTC
The most unreliable player of all time
For those who have been around a few years, you've probably run into this guy.
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Manwe Sulimo (630 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
Too funny to pass up

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Ismail (100 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
"War on Terror" game set in 2001
I figure people may be interested in this: http://eregime.org/index.php?c=1012281

It's not Diplomacy, but you can play as a country leader, intelligence agency, international bank, terrorist group, etc. The rules are very simple.
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CNote (543 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
Site mechanics question re civil disorder
See below
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Yoyoyozo (187 D)
28 Jan 17 UTC
Seasonal Player Awards (Free Points)
The Player of the Year Awards are over, but the fun has just begun :D
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slypups (1889 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
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Trump is taking over the WebDiplomacy forums
Somehow, his move for power has infested us even here. Is there any thread since he's been elected that doesn't have a mention or side reference to Trump by the second page? Yeah...I'm guilty of it too.
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Zollern (100 D)
30 Jan 17 UTC
attacking unit is attacked?
If my attacking unit (moving into an opponents occupied space) is attacked by another unsupported attack from an opponent there is no effect and my attack is successful (if supported), correct?
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Durga (2658 D)
30 Jan 17 UTC
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HDV as default
I'm wondering if the mods would consider making HDV the default setting because no HDV is trash.
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Chaqa (2684 D (B))
30 Jan 17 UTC
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Ideas for resistance
what should we be doing as WebDippers and internet citizens to combat creeping mod fascism?
14 replies
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Jamiet99uk (25 D)
27 Jan 17 UTC
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Trump to publish weekly list of crimes by immigrants
This will include crimes involving *legal* migrants, not just illegals. Does it feel like mid 1930s Germany yet, or what?
487 replies
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Matticus13 (2246 D)
30 Jan 17 UTC
Odds on Trump Serving/Not Serving Full Term
Current odds on Trump being impeached/resigning: 11/10
Serving full term: 8/11

Hypothetical: You have to bet one. What's your money on?
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captainmeme (1126 D Mod)
30 Jan 17 UTC
Petition to make Hidden Draw Votes the Default Setting
See title.
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Chaqa (2684 D (B))
30 Jan 17 UTC
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Petition to ban petitions
1. Chaqa
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Jamiet99uk (25 D)
30 Jan 17 UTC
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Petition to ban petitions to ban petitions, but permit all others that are not spammy
1. Jamiet99uk
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