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Peregrine Falcon (2196 D (B))
03 Feb 17 UTC
How does muting work?
I've never muted someone in a game before. Therefore, I am quite ignorant about how it works. Clearly if player A is muted by player B, B won't receive any messages from A while they're muted. What happens when B unmutes A? Do all the messages A sent to B while B had A muted suddenly appear, or are they lost forever?
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brainbomb (474 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
New spoken word/music (mothlion)
Listen to So fucking sick of memes (spoken word) by mothlion #np on #SoundCloud

https://soundcloud.com/mothlion/so-fucking-sick-of-memes
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slypups (1889 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
When it's time to change your URL redirect...
Has anyone been to http://trumpsucks.com ?
Cause that train already went off the cliff. Maybe time to change the redirect.
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cspieker (18223 D)
01 Feb 17 UTC
New game Classic
Just went to a FTF tourney. Was fun. Want to play some more classic using the standard tourney rules (except of course 1 Day turns instead of 12 minutes).

Set it at 101d to filter for more reliable players. If that's too steep but you like the rest, chime in here, and I will make a new one with lower bet.
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Condescension (10 D X)
31 Jan 17 UTC
Trump is now a child murderer.
:^)

Good job, conservatives.
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slypups (1889 D)
01 Feb 17 UTC
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Trump Supreme Court nominee makes the court lopsided for decades
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316853-trump-taps-neil-gorsuch-for-supreme-court
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
31 Jan 17 UTC
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Alternatives to the nation-state
Because we can't seem to imagine a better system, we should.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329850-600-end-of-nations-is-there-an-alternative-to-countries/
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Durga (2658 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
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@Condescension

I'm sure you're just naive as all hell and mean no real harm. But that view sickens me to my core. I assume you would then be okay with being ruled by the Chinese a few years from now if it means they'll eventually "enlighten" and "integrate" us into their society? Right?
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
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"Many of these became dictatorships, which require a much simpler bureaucracy than democracies.

Dictatorships exacerbate ethnic strife because their institutions do not promote citizens’ identification with the nation. In such situations, people fall back on trusted alliances based on kinship, which readily elicit Dunbar-like loyalties. Insecure governments allied to ethnic groups favour their own, while grievances among the disfavoured groups grow – and the resulting conflict can be fierce.

Recent research confirms that the problem is not ethnic diversity itself, but not enough official inclusiveness."

Sounds like where Trump wants to take us.
Condescension (10 D X)
31 Jan 17 UTC
@demon I wasn't saying the colonies needed to be enlightened. The British government did.
Durga (2658 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
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They were, and that is why they got the fuck out of their occupation.
Durga (2658 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
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I forgot there were people that actually bought into the white man's burden.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
31 Jan 17 UTC
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i say all of you palefaces go back across the seas from whence you came
Hannibal76 (283 D (B))
31 Jan 17 UTC
Condescension there's no such thing as colonizers and imperialists suddenly giving a shit about the people they rule over. Come on man. Come on.
Hannibal76 (283 D (B))
31 Jan 17 UTC
You wouldn't be saying that if your country was a victim of empires.
And plus 1 to everything DO said.
Condescension (10 D X)
31 Jan 17 UTC
Yeah, I was wrong.
Condescension (10 D X)
31 Jan 17 UTC
What the fuck is a paleface?
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
31 Jan 17 UTC
paleface: a common term used by native Americans to classify white people.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
31 Jan 17 UTC
i say all of you palefaces go back across the seas from whence you came
Condescension (10 D X)
31 Jan 17 UTC
Go crawl under a bridge
Hannibal76 (283 D (B))
31 Jan 17 UTC
Tolstoy what would be the alternative to the nation state?
I'm not sure we can ever get to a dissolution of nation-states and the creation of a world government without far-reaching catastrophe. The powerful states of the world aren't going to give up their power unless it becomes necessary.
Hellenic Riot (1619 D (G))
31 Jan 17 UTC
Only an XCOM situation would cause this to happen in any sort of foreseeable future.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
31 Jan 17 UTC
@"Recent research confirms that the problem is not ethnic diversity itself, but not enough official inclusiveness."

Sounds like where Trump wants to take us "

Yeah, that did occur to me...

Though Assad's Syria, whee the Alawites are a minority who were in power...

I would like to see a solution based around city-states...
orathaic (1009 D (B))
31 Jan 17 UTC
I love the line here about what makes sense for a tribal/hobsian world doesn't necessarily make sense for political parties or scientific theories: https://youtu.be/B0W9sSqeJnA

Or indeed nation-states... *cough* patriotism *cough*
TheRealMaestro (190 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
The only alternative to the nation-state that has proven at all historically viable is the empire. Though they are fun to build in this game, and Roman grandeur carries with it awe, I personally prefer the ideal of each people to its country: diversity without, and unity within.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
31 Jan 17 UTC
City-states with networks of international relations may work very well.

Or a neo-feudalism.

But read the article and make your own mind up.

(Empire risks being burden by buerocratic costs which eventually lead to collapse. At least historically)
Manwe Sulimo (630 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
I vote for a triple tiered federalist world with a world government where membership is mandatory and basic human rights are enforced through laws and policies implemented in compliance with the NAP, individual countries where individualistic laws and policies can be created to solve unique problems, and states/provinces to create solutions for yet even more unique problems. The problem is that everyone has nukes now, so how could you ensure every country join such a system?
Clownie (295 D)
01 Feb 17 UTC
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This entire article is outrageously, hilariously incompetent busythink. Is nobody going to talk about how horrifically inaccurate that "prediction" of future Europe is? The author spends so much time railing against nation-states, and then... splits Europe (incompetently!) into smaller nation-states.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
01 Feb 17 UTC
@Clownie - it appeared to me that the author ended with 'collapse' as an alternative...
Tolstoy (2033 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
"Tolstoy what would be the alternative to the nation state? "

The local community, a geographically limited area where people share a common language and culture. The article the OP references points to the Swiss Cantons, and I think that's a pretty close approximation of my desire (maybe a slightly larger), both in terms of size and political organization. In American terms, I think the right size for a polity would be the size of very small states or large counties - something large enough to get economies of scale, but still small enough that anyone can make their voice heard if they yell loudly enough.

It is more than a little disturbing to see all the cheering for a one-world government here. People around the world today are rejecting rule by elites hundreds of miles away through both the ballot and the bullet, depending on their situation - do people really think the 'little people' would be happier being ruled by people thousands of miles away who don't even speak the same language? Hopefully Trump will disabuse Americans at least of the assumption that centralization is always a good thing over the next... however long he is in power.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
02 Feb 17 UTC
@"still small enough that anyone can make their voice heard if they yell loudly enough."

This is such a vital thing for a functioning democratic system. I just have to repeat it.

People must feel empowered of they will disengage from their system. 55% turnout in a US presidential election is a shocking indictment of the failing of democracy in the US. You should require a quorum of at least 70% turnout in any district for any decisions to be made.

I would of course except cities. I would assume that city-states can function as singular entities, but even within them they should have division of administrative functions and local elections to direct these functions.


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ssorenn (3242 D (G))
01 Feb 17 UTC
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Peanut gallery game
We need a thread that's devoted to diplomacy to be front and center. All this crap about politics is taking up way too much bandwidth here.
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yavuzovic (240 D)
01 Feb 17 UTC
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Why I cannot create a Known World 901 game at the moment?
Sorry. I accidentally mute my other thread.
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leon1122 (175 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
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President Trump is bans immigration from 7 countries and begins building the wall!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/refugees-immigrants-wall-trump.html?_r=0
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Hellenic Riot (1619 D (G))
02 Feb 17 UTC
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February GR Updated
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist
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gogopowerrangers (50 D X)
02 Feb 17 UTC
How to report multiplayer to Admin?
Sorry that I am new here, I suspect someone is being a multiplayer, how do I report?
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wpfieps (440 D)
02 Feb 17 UTC
Breaking News
Next week, the prez will be signing an executive order banning Krellin from playing Diplomacy for 90 days.
3 replies
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djnogueira (220 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
F AEG S F BS-BUL NC
So in a game I have someone made this move:
The fleet at Aegean Sea support move to Bulgaria from Black Sea.
The fleet at Black Sea move to Bulgaria (North Coast).
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Randomizer (70 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
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Leave No Lawyer Unemployed
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/31/us/trump-lawsuits-travel-ban-conflicts-interest/index.html

Setting a record number of lawsuits against him in his first weeks in office, Trump is determined to lower unemployment for lawyers.
4 replies
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Mapu (362 D)
01 Feb 17 UTC
The most unreliable player of all time
For those who have been around a few years, you've probably run into this guy.
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Manwe Sulimo (630 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
Too funny to pass up

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Ismail (100 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
"War on Terror" game set in 2001
I figure people may be interested in this: http://eregime.org/index.php?c=1012281

It's not Diplomacy, but you can play as a country leader, intelligence agency, international bank, terrorist group, etc. The rules are very simple.
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CNote (568 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
Site mechanics question re civil disorder
See below
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Yoyoyozo (187 D)
28 Jan 17 UTC
Seasonal Player Awards (Free Points)
The Player of the Year Awards are over, but the fun has just begun :D
48 replies
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slypups (1889 D)
31 Jan 17 UTC
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Trump is taking over the WebDiplomacy forums
Somehow, his move for power has infested us even here. Is there any thread since he's been elected that doesn't have a mention or side reference to Trump by the second page? Yeah...I'm guilty of it too.
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Zollern (100 D)
30 Jan 17 UTC
attacking unit is attacked?
If my attacking unit (moving into an opponents occupied space) is attacked by another unsupported attack from an opponent there is no effect and my attack is successful (if supported), correct?
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Durga (2658 D)
30 Jan 17 UTC
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HDV as default
I'm wondering if the mods would consider making HDV the default setting because no HDV is trash.
54 replies
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Chaqa (3014 D (B))
30 Jan 17 UTC
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Ideas for resistance
what should we be doing as WebDippers and internet citizens to combat creeping mod fascism?
14 replies
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Jamiet99uk (35 D)
27 Jan 17 UTC
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Trump to publish weekly list of crimes by immigrants
This will include crimes involving *legal* migrants, not just illegals. Does it feel like mid 1930s Germany yet, or what?
487 replies
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Matticus13 (2201 D)
30 Jan 17 UTC
Odds on Trump Serving/Not Serving Full Term
Current odds on Trump being impeached/resigning: 11/10
Serving full term: 8/11

Hypothetical: You have to bet one. What's your money on?
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captainmeme (841 D Mod)
30 Jan 17 UTC
Petition to make Hidden Draw Votes the Default Setting
See title.
13 replies
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Chaqa (3014 D (B))
30 Jan 17 UTC
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Petition to ban petitions
1. Chaqa
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Jamiet99uk (35 D)
30 Jan 17 UTC
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Petition to ban petitions to ban petitions, but permit all others that are not spammy
1. Jamiet99uk
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brainbomb (474 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
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Unprecedented silencing of EPA, USDA, what is next
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?
Our national parks are being blocked from posting climate change data? The USDA, EPA are being bullied? What is this gestapo fucking horse shot?
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