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CommanderByron (858 D (S))
12 Mar 16 UTC
Great example I/T
gameID=173452

I am not just showing this because I won, I am showing this because here we have an example of a I/T agreed upon in 1901 that worked out well for both parties (up until the eventual and nessecary stab and solo)
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brainbomb (284 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
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Seat belt laws are an infringement upon my personal liberty
I am against seat belt laws. I own my car therefore it is my own sovereign state. No form of authority has any right to question what I do in my car.
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Valis2501 (879 D (G))
12 Jan 16 UTC
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The 2016 Local Tournament - Round 1
The full ruleset is available here: https://tinyurl.com/webDip2016local-rules
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SandgooseXXI (113 D)
10 Mar 16 UTC
woah woah woah
First off...who changed my gahd damn WTA...wtf is this sum of squares?! Unranked and you GET POINTS BACK! WHAT THE HECK!!!! WE PLAY FRIENDLIES HERE NOW?!?!?!?!
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DammmmDaniel (100 D)
11 Mar 16 UTC
Classic Map
What was the longest Classic map game ever?
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Sago (101 D)
27 Jan 16 UTC
UN II Constitution, Resolutions, Interpretations and proposals 2001.
Welcome to 2001. Here you will find the updated Constitution, Resolutions, Interpretations, and the proposals of 2001 for the pacifist diplomacy game UNII
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brainbomb (284 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Hillary Clinton now past 1200 Delegates (Halfway point)
With 30 point leads in Ohio and Florida this is over. Bernie will drop out likely sometime next week.
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StackelbergFollower (1346 D (G))
09 Mar 16 UTC
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Popular vote totals are also an unclear indicator because they penalize states for holding caucuses rather than primaries.
brainbomb (284 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Pretty sure I just made that distinction and I am fully aware of the facts, good try though.

Clinton Polls in Florida: 62 percent to 32 percent (for Clinton)

I highly doubt a different outcome here, considering she has swept the entire south up to this point, and Florida is a winner take all.

(http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/clinton-leads-sanders-in-florida-ohio-polls-220439)
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Now Ohio, another one of the states Bernie supporters hope to win. reason why I think he could win is based solely on his performance in Michigan. Ohio is also a very symbolically important state in every single general election.

52 percent to 43 percent. In favor of Clinton currently. (This falls more into the margin of error we saw in Michigan, Bernie could win here and its his best shot at an upset if there is one)

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North Carolina is basically a concession for Sanders. Unlike what Jeff Kuta is saying, North Carolina is important, every state is important: why? Because OBAMA won here in 2008 dude. IN THE GENERAL vs John McCain no less.

Hilary is favored to win 57% - 34% in North Carolina. I think its safe to say Bernie is not contesting this state with much money or effort as its more of Hillarys southern sweep.
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Missouri is yet again another very confusing state. I happen to live in Missouri. I can tell you Missouri is one of the only swing states Obama never carried. He lost in 2008 here to McCain and lost again in 2012 to Romney. The part of Missouri I live in is very pro Bernie, but that doesnt mean anything. With 71 delegates up for grabs, I have to say Bernie actually has a shot.
However the Numbers say Clinton wins 53%-25% completing a Southern sweep.

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Illinois is more of the same narrative. Clinton favored to win 59% - 28.5%

So I dont see what exactly you guys are reading. The debate tonight maybe some crazy gaffe by Hillary that changes things?


Lethologica (203 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
First, the popular vote doesn't include caucus states, which Obama won heavily. Second, pledged delegates aren't strictly allocated by popular vote--district distribution factors in as well--and so (for example) Obama won more pledged delegates in Nevada despite losing the popular vote there. You can see this happening this year in Michigan with Bernie winning MI pledged delegates 65-58 despite only winning the popular vote 49.8%-48.3%.
Lethologica (203 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
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"Florida is a winner take all."

No it isn't. There are no WTA states in the Democratic primary. FL is WTA for Republicans only.
Octavious (1713 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Clearly the superdelegates who have shown support for Clinton have done so because they want her to win. From that it is safe to assume they will side with her for any grey area (if Clinton wins the most delegates but has the fewest votes, they choose Clinton. If the other way around, they also choose Clinton).

How much would Bernie have to win by to move the superdelegates in his direction? 52-48? 55-45? 50.000001-49.999999?
brainbomb (284 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Bernie would need to overcome 4+ upsets on the same night of numbers totalling
10-35% upsets. I just dont see that happening logically. Maybe Ohio. but even if he wins Ohio, that still is a net loss of hundreds of delegates by comparison.
54% from here on out would give him a tie in pledged delegates. A few points above that and he would have a very clear majority. This is a very improbable outcome.
StackelbergFollower (1346 D (G))
09 Mar 16 UTC
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But Octavious, I would add that there is a difference between announcing your support to influence others and voting, which has a more direct relationship with the legitimacy of the process. My view is that superdelegates would face extraordinary political pressure to support whichever candidate had the most pledged delegates in any scenario where the two candidates were close by the end of the primaries.
Lethologica (203 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
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"Clearly the superdelegates who have shown support for Clinton have done so because they want her to win. From that it is safe to assume they will side with her for any grey area (if Clinton wins the most delegates but has the fewest votes, they choose Clinton. If the other way around, they also choose Clinton).

How much would Bernie have to win by to move the superdelegates in his direction? 52-48? 55-45? 50.000001-49.999999?"

Well, look to '08. Clinton had a strong early superdelegate lead, but when Obama had a clear pledged delegate lead the superdelegate count swung his way as well, even though (as Chaqa noted) he didn't have the lead in the popular vote. So it's not necessarily the case that superdelegates will hold to any amount of gray area to justify supporting the establishment candidate.
Octavious (1713 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Obama wasn't exactly anti establishment though. He may not have been the number one choice, but there weren't many people against him either.
Lethologica (203 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Sort of. The establishment's opinion was "Wait 8 years and you'll be a great candidate," and then Obama Hope And Changed at them until they gave in.

For that matter, is this year's lopsided superdelegate count the result of the establishment being really against Sanders, or just Hillary being The Anointed One? Well, I suppose Sanders is much more explicitly anti-establishment than Obama, so there's that.
Yoyoyozo (182 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Bernie is going to annihilate Hillary in Illinois. Do you mnow how many colleges and universities are in it?

Let's make a bet bb.

If Hillary wins Illinois, I'll +1 every post you've made on the front page that day.

If Bernie wins Illinois, you +1 every post I've made.
Yoyoyozo (182 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
It's extremely clear what is happening. Every poll has underestimated Bernies performance and it gets worse and worse. He was supposed to lose Kansas, Oklahoma, and Michigan by a wide margin but he ended up winning them.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he swept all of Heartland.
brainbomb (284 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Okay so Bernie is going to overcome a 30 point deficit in Illinois because there are colleges...

come on man, you aren't that absurd. Chicago is the 3rd largest city in America. College votes are not the tipping point here. Illinois is Obama's home state, consider that if voters like Obama, they would likely support Hillary.
brainbomb (284 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
"swept all of the Heartland"

Is that just whatever states you deem midwestern? Iowa is the midwest.... Missouri is sort of the Midwest.... South Dakota, North Dakota? come on man, he didnt technically win Iowa.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
The young are underrepresented in polls. The old, overrepresented. Guess what?
brainbomb (284 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
I'm saying in a city of 5 million freaking people the college vote is nothing more than an outlier.

Sanders carried 23,000 students from Northwestern! Bernie's got this thing!

Hillary carried 500,000 people from the suburbs Hillary has this thing in the bag wooo!


just think before you post, everyone has a target demographic.
Michigan was an OPEN primary, that means anyone could have voted for Bernie in it, even republicans. think about it logically people.
krellin (80 D X)
09 Mar 16 UTC
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77 useless replies to the most obvious event in Democrat party history. Bernie loses. Bernie loses most likely because he will lose (because America hasn't fallen so far that apart from moronic youth we actually think you can get everything for *freeeeeeee*....) Bernie loss because EVEN IF Bernie WINS.....Hillary will steal the votes necessary to get the nomination through the UTTERLY CORRUPT Democrat Super-Delegate process.

There is NO SMALL IRONY that the Democrat party, which screams the most often, the loudest and the longest about "Voter Disenfranchisement" is the party that BY WAY OF POLICY has a nomination system DESIGN TO DISENFRANCHISE VOTERS and is ACTIVELY SCREWING the voter.

Bernie wins Michigan. Hillary will take the most delegates.

That the fucking sheep that make up the Democrat voting public are not marching through the streets with pitch forks and torches over the *OUTRAGE* that is the Democrat Party nomination process is just proof positive that the Democrat party is made up of sound and fury SIGNIFYING NOTHING. If it can't be accomplished via the meaningless and impotent Twitter post, the useless sheep of the Democrat party won't do it anymore.

And so it goes....Hillary wins the nomination.


This discussion is now over.
Yoyoyozo (182 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Chicago has over 670,000 college students
Yoyoyozo (182 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
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Bernie sanders does better in suburbs and hillary does better in urban areas, what are you talking about bb? Did you see what happened in michigan. Detroit and a couple other cities were the only places keeping her afloat.

Consider that, and then take into account that I don't know a single Chicagoan that's voting for Hillary, and I love in the "urban" part of the city.

Hillary will get demolished
Yoyoyozo (182 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Krellin the superdelegates in Michigan were casted in August, when Bernie was basically nothing compared to Hillary. I'm certain that will change come the convention in June.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Illinois is Hillary the carpetbagger's home state. If Sanders wins there, she has no chance.
krellin (80 D X)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Yoyoyoyoyoyo......who gives a fuck, moron. YOU ARE MAKING MY POINT. the Democrat party, before the voters even cast a ballot, decided who THEY wanted the nominee to be, and have a perverse system in place that means Bernie is in a deficiet before the first cast is even vote!!

And the Democrat sheep find this acceptable? Even defend it? lol

bhhh-h-hh-h-hh-hh-h-hh-h-h.....bahhhhh.....

And you think, after Hillary possibly steals the nomination from Bernie, that the Democrats will have a come-to-Jesus moment at the convention and change the rules??!?!?


Haaaaaaa HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! ahhhhhhhhh HHAAAAAA HH AHAHA AH AHA *HA* **HA** *****HHAAAAA*****

<COUGH COUGH>

shut up man....you're killing me here, ignorant sheep.
Chaqa (3624 D (B))
09 Mar 16 UTC
I'm not a huge Bernie guy, but he was polled at 20% BEHIND in Michigan, and won by 2 or 3%. So I think polls are going to be hard to trust right now... Bernie pulled off a fucking major upset.
Yoyoyozo (182 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Oh Krellin, my friend, it's but the opposite. I resent the Democratic Party. I talk shit about them on social media constantly. I suppose I don't think that the Democratic Party will pull an act so blatantly corrupt as to just decide on a nominee with no regards to the voters.
brainbomb (284 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Let me go ahead and pencil all of you in with y2k / bo_sox (not actual democrats) and say you wont be voting in the fall unless its for Bernie (regardless of if hes a dem or ind by then).
This is the problem with the Bernie following on this website. Its a bunch of faux liberals who will be utterly shocked when Bernie loses. Strangely krellin is actually making more sense, its clearly going to be the deathknell of the Democratic party when Bernie loses because all those college voters will just be completely disenfranchised and apathetic come November.

The only thing that matters is stopping trump. I dont care who does it anymore.

As a side note yoyo, 600,000 college students would have to all vote and all vote Bernie in every corner of Illinois not just Chicago area. Also its purely anecdotal to claim youve talked to some crazies around town and they all support Bernie. Thats not an accurate form of polling . hes currently favored to lose by 30% of the vote. (Fact)
krellin (80 D X)
09 Mar 16 UTC
" I suppose I don't think that the Democratic Party will pull an act so blatantly corrupt as to just decide on a nominee with no regards to the voters. "
"I resent the Democratic Party. I talk shit about them on social media constantly"


Yes --- you make my point EXACTLY as I described it. You hate the party you claim affiliation to, and your total act of rebellion is a Twitter post of "outrage". lol

THAT is why Hillary will steal the election from Bernie. That is why YOU are totally irrelevant to the democrat party war machine. You are but a faithful pawn, and after they tell you "GFY We'll nominate who WE WANT" they **know** with certainty that you, good sheep and all, will come pull the lever for Hillary no matter what.

To paraphrase...Hillary could gun down people in the street, and the loyal Democrat sheep will show up and pull the lever, because while she isn't promising everything for FREEEEEEEEEE....she's close enough and, hell, she's only committed a FEW felony's so far...

krellin (80 D X)
09 Mar 16 UTC
" y2k / bo_sox (not actual democrats)"

HAHHHA AH AAH AHAH AHAH AH STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT!!!

There's nothing I hate more than a mindless libtard than a LIAR who is too afraid to declare their loyalties. BO "Im NOT a Democrat....but I NEVER saw a Republican I could vote for" blah blah blah. Get the hell out of here...
Chaqa (3624 D (B))
09 Mar 16 UTC
Hilary couldn't beat Trump in the general anyway. She's a dishonest, distrusted establishment candidate that people are sick of already. I don't like Trump much, but I'd vote for him in a heartbeat to keep her out of office.

Might vote for Bernie though. Seems like an alright guy.
krellin (80 D X)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Ugh....BB -- when's the next mafia. I can't handle all this real life nonsense anymore.

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brainbomb (284 D)
10 Mar 16 UTC
I filed my taxes
I filed my taxes and will be receiving my huge tax refund of 6.06$ within 21 business days.
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Hellenic Riot (1619 D (G))
07 Mar 16 UTC
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webDiplomacy Moderator Applications
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pahla (344 D)
10 Mar 16 UTC
Be There! fast game
Come on guys, we had to cancel a game a couple of minutes ago so let's play a gunboat game in 15 minutes
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brainbomb (284 D)
10 Mar 16 UTC
Legolas vs Deadpool
did we do this one yet?
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Hellenic Riot (1619 D (G))
15 Feb 16 UTC
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Mafia XVII Game Thread
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Jamiet99uk (445 D)
10 Mar 16 UTC
Martial Law declared in UK after riots
http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/03/09/martial-law-declared-uk-casserole-pastry-lid-passed-pie/
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c0dyz (100 D)
08 Mar 16 UTC
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yes
http://mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/66538/how-do-i-draw-a-pair-of-buttocks
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Jamiet99uk (445 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
Vegetables
Let's have a discussion.
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sirdallas (1202 D)
10 Mar 16 UTC
1 MORE NEEDED
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American Conquest!
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CommanderByron (858 D (S))
04 Jan 16 UTC
Advertise vDip Games HERE
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wjessop (100 D X)
09 Mar 16 UTC
PlayStation 4 Discussion
PlayStation 4 Reccomendatins, Discussion, Tips, Games, Apps.
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abgemacht (666 D (G))
10 Mar 16 UTC
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Ancillary Justice (Imperial Radch)
Has anyone else read this series? If not, you really should if you even remotely enjoy SF. Easily my top 10 series and likely top 5. First book ever to win both the Hugo and Nebula awards.
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sirdallas (1202 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
2 players needed. American conquest!
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AlexNesta (244 D)
08 Mar 16 UTC
Please help me set up my first FtF game with friends
Hi mods, I'd like to use the site to play a FtF game with a group of friends. Any advice on how I should proceed? Not getting banned as a multi during/after the game is strongly preferred.
Also, if anyone has any experience playing FtF with all players entering orders on their phones/tablets and/or with players who never played Diplomacy before, please let me know how it went and what I should expect. Thanks!
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Nikola Maric Eto (23620 D)
08 Mar 16 UTC
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How weak you have to be...
to attack Trieste in spring '01?
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DammmmDaniel (100 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
NEW GAME
Sup guys! new game please join here ASAP http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=175756
Fun modern diplomacy map!!!!
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jpuhrer (374 D)
06 Mar 16 UTC
Civil Disorder - How many un-sumitted orders until Civil Disorder
I'm currently playing a 20-hour/phase game in which I've seen two players not submit orders for over 5 seasons as well as the retreats and disbands. Really slows the game if the player has left the game. When does Civil Disorder take over and moves are made automatically?

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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
The Free Takeover Experiment has Failed
The Free Takeover Experiment has Failed
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Hyperion (1008 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
Sengoku, Rise of Shogun Ad
A variant based on vdiplomacy:
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Frenchmontana (20 D X)
06 Mar 16 UTC
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what does the draw vote do
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redhouse1938 (586 D)
25 Feb 16 UTC
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The United States have gone completely mad.
Hey guys, it's redhouse, it's been a while.
Just so you know: the US have gone completely mad. If you have Donald "bleeding from wherever" Trump heading the major right wing race and Mitch "Constitution? What's a constitution?" McConnell heading the senate, something is wrong.
Very, very, very wrong.
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Sevyas (869 D)
03 Mar 16 UTC
Slow game for reliable players
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Smokey Gem (184 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
Convoys Caucus to Kazakstan
Is there a way we can ask the mods/devs why in Modern Dip you can't convoy and army via Caspian sea Caucus to Kazakstan ??
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