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Finished: 04 PM Sat 12 Mar 16 UTC
I don't think we're in F2F anymore
1 days /phase
Pot: 140 D - Autumn, 1912, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by CommanderByron (869 D (S))
14 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1905: Moderator: (A_Tin_Can): A player in this game is without internet for the next couple of days, so it has been paused. Any issues, please email webdipmod@gmail.com
15 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1905: My apologies all, it was I. I am ready now, so lets get this show back on the road. I went out of state thought my phone would be able to submit orders but for some reason it wouldn't
16 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1905: Turkey...are you aware we're awaiting your un-pause please.
16 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1905: How long should we wait ?
17 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1905: im sorry all, I forgot I didn't unpause this one. I had like 10 games going when my emergency came about. I think I might have missed this one in my chaos of unpausing and apologixing.
19 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1905: why is the retreating taking so long ? who is on holiday these days ?
22 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1907: just have to say it, you all are playing excellent. especially, russia, italy and england.
01 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: As long as both Russia and France remain alive I am not willing to accept a draw. However if England allows Italy to take Portugal by allowing a fleet into the Mid atlantic then I will allow England to take St.petersburg and declare the draw.
01 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: Why are you stabbing Italy?
01 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: There is no stab happening right now. Myself and Italy have organized this movement to get a fleet into North Africa to help him hold MAO and Spain. My only move against Italy so far was done last year when I thought he would NMR. But if you look back you will see I immediately removed my forces.
01 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: It also just makes no sense for me to stab for all of a single center.
02 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: Wow I missed a lot. First off no, I'm not going to just let Italy have the Mid-Atlantic and Portugal. Don't get me wrong both Turkey and Italy are good players and it would be an honor to draw with you, but France has supported me at times when I absolutely needed it. If it comes down to a draw want them in on it. As for Russia, Turkey you yourself said that they have played excellently why refuse them the draw?
02 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: Refuse them the draw because they now only encompass 1 center. I am not for large draws. I am all for smaller draws. My preferred draw is a 3 way but in this game I am willing to accept 4. England consider for a moment that while France has been a good ally is it really out of his honor or out of nessecity? If he stabbed you, he would immediately be eliminated, I am almost certain that had the game played out in such a way that France had been large enough right now to matter to the game dynamics you would feel differently about him especially if he were the reason you weren't as large as thought you'd be. All I am saying is there is a short and easy way to finish this, and a long arduous way to end this. You could either allow Italy into Portugal and myself into st.petersburg or Germany could continue to expand into your center forcing you to crumple in on yourself and eventually forcing the draw. Your choice. I am not budging on this. I apologize to my allies if they think this is a bad move but I argue it is the best move for all 4 of us. I am sorry Russia, I am sorry France, this game just wasn't yours. I would love to play you both again but at this juncture we have to cut the weak links and take the best outcome for all of us. The point of this game is to play through til a solo or no more advanced can be had. Right now Germany, myself and Italy if we continue to work together have very clear avenues of advance.
02 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: Turkey you are a very smart player. It's true if Germany decides to attack me it is over. If France NMRs it is over. However if I just let you past the line there is a good chance it is over as well. Turkey, I have seen you lie to Russia, I know have lied to me, and you either continue to lie to me or your allies right now (like a smart player you may deny that you would ever lie to your allies). However that is not my real concern. Here is my concern, Turkey, and it is a flaw many of us have with this game including me. You are an opportunist. After all you moved against Italy when you thought they would NMR. What's worse you have an opportunity, for a solo. Something that in your own words is the point of this game. If I just surrender the stalemate line that we could have if Germany agrees just to be neutral, my concern is that you will stab them for the solo. I think the only reason you have played nice with them so long is to serve your purpose of crossing the line before you stab them at the perfectly calculated time. While it is up to other players to decide if my concerns hold any value, I will bet my game on it.
02 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: I have no intent of stabbing at this juncture, and only want to make this game shorter but within reasonable end results. My reasoning for not wanting to surrender St.P to you is to maintain some level of defense incase you do rally my allies against me. However, if you allow italy to take Portugal, and are serious about working toward a reasonable draw, I will be more than happy to surrender st.p to you.
03 Mar 16 UTC Spring, 1910: Hi everyone, I'm really sorry about this something came up and I need a pause. Very quick run down I work as a river guide and one of my coworkers was in desperate need for someone fill in. I said I can do it. I leave tomorrow morning and I won't have any internet until Monday night. If you're unwilling pause I have asked my roommate to use my account to hold just so I don't go into civil disorder and ruin my rr rating for my next game, but that won't be as fun for you all. So either talk to you all in a few days or good game everyone!
03 Mar 16 UTC Spring, 1910: Just for transparency I will put my orders this phase...
03 Mar 16 UTC Spring, 1910: Hey England, just in case France oe Russia isn't paying attention to this, you should request the mods pause it. I did it before, they are understanding enough.
03 Mar 16 UTC Spring, 1910: all the major players have voted pause so I am sure the mods will not mind.
03 Mar 16 UTC Spring, 1910: Fine with me.
07 Mar 16 UTC Spring, 1911: If England and Italy manage to eliminate Germany and France before I solo I will draw. If not then, well good game all.
09 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1911: Hey everyone I'm back! Thanks for not taking my centers that was very honorable of all of you, and thanks to my roommate for not let me go in cd.
09 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1911: Yea, I even stabbed Italy so I could get the honorable solo.
10 Mar 16 UTC Spring, 1912: if you two eliminate France this turn and stop my solo I will commit to the 3 way draw. I really don;t want to shut you two out of some type of victory, you have both played excellently. I can not wait to see who you are at the end of this.
12 Mar 16 UTC Good game everyone
12 Mar 16 UTC agreed.

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Turkey
Won. Bet: 20 D, won: 140 D
18 supply-centers, 17 units
England
Dr. Hu (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
12 supply-centers, 11 units
Italy
Bigdbass (396 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
4 supply-centers, 5 units
France
nathan hale (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 0 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Germany
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Austria
adva2005 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Russia
taipan (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Civil Disorders
Lake047 (218 D)Austria (Autumn, 1902) with 4 centres.
quentin0409 (154 D)France (Autumn, 1904) with 1 centres.
Riotleader007 (100 D)France (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
MiddlesbroughGhettoMafia (100 D)France (Autumn, 1907) with 1 centres.
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