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hellalt (24 D)
23 Dec 10 UTC
Southeastern European Tm Fiesta Game
The upcoming winners of the World Cup would like to celebrate their certain victory with a special fiesta game.
It will be wta, 20 D, 36hrs/turn, full press, NOT anon.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
02 Jan 11 UTC
What games involve skills vital to diplomacy.
If one was to hone one's diplo skills by playing other games, what would those games be?
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IKE (3845 D)
04 Jan 11 UTC
Fog of war gunbot
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=132
On Oli. Annon gunboat 25 D 24 hr phase.
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President Eden (2750 D)
03 Jan 11 UTC
FIRST PERSON TO POST WINS!!!!!!!!
gg
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Bob Genghiskhan (1238 D)
03 Jan 11 UTC
Our host is apparently a Stephen Fry fan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cl-f8NABMM&feature=fvst

And no, Kestas, that wasn't especially tricky camera work. Gridiron is a confusing game.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
03 Jan 11 UTC
FIRST PERSON TO NOT POST WINS!
And everyone who posts below this is hereby a fool, a moron, or an attention-seeking whore!
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
03 Jan 11 UTC
Glitch?
Why can a fleet go into Memphis on the Anc Med....
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djbent (2572 D(S))
21 Dec 10 UTC
i would like to play a game
or two. anyone up for one?

between now and saturday, i can only do live games. i can play a real, serious, high or not pot, anon or not, game probs starting around the 2nd or 3rd. any takers? been missing diplomacy, glad to see things are still so vibrant here.
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Paulsalomon27 (731 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
OFFICIAL METAGAME
In which I propose a new sort of Diplomacy, an official metagame.
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theVerve (100 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
Site needs a Chatroom? Discuss....
Just found myself refreshing the Forum as fast as a 5 min live game and it occurred to me that something didn't feel quite right for 2011...
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Maniac (189 D(B))
02 Jan 11 UTC
Alternative Player of the Year Awards.
Nominations are now open.
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basvanopheusden (2176 D)
03 Jan 11 UTC
THIRD PERSON TO POST WINS!!!!!!!!!!!
one rule: no double posting
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☺ (1304 D)
03 Jan 11 UTC
Statistics Spreadsheet
Inside:
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charlesf (100 D)
18 Dec 10 UTC
What webDiplomacy really needs...
I very much miss multilateral negotiations here. Next to global broadcasts and bilateral correspondence, there ought to be the option to adress several (but not all) players at once. It's a very basic and very necessary feature that all Diplomacy judges have. webDiplomacy really needs to up its game on that one.
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☺ (1304 D)
03 Jan 11 UTC
Does anyone know...
... If, using Windows Live SkyDrive, if I have permissions set such that anyone can view a spreadsheet, will they be able to edit a pivot table?
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☺ (1304 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
Quantitative Easing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUY16CkS-k

Has anyone seen this yet? This is fantastic.
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mykemosabe (151 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
why can't I play any more??
I singed up for a live game. 8 min. befor it started, my computer compleatly died. I got my laptop out,but couldn't get on line until spring 1902. put in orders which went through. then all my games went to 533 days until ,my next move including my live game...HELP!!!
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Dan Wang (1194 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
Gunboat 30 points PPSC anonymous 24 hour phases
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
02 Jan 11 UTC
best Allaince Openings
A while ago there was a thread called this that had some pretty cool allainces posted. Can anyone link me to that thread, as I want to try some of them out.
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
2010 Player of the Year
As some of you recall, I released a series of stats last year, as an unofficial player of the year award, using the data I get for Ghost-Rating.

Here is the 2010 version. (If someone formats it with links by each player's name I would be really grateful)
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Crazyter (1335 D(G))
31 Dec 10 UTC
Please recommend other games
I am thinking seriously of taking a break from dip. The cut-throat stabbing is really taking its toll...
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
New Ghost=Rating lists up
Same stuff as usual, January list & All-time lists are up.

http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE READ THE SITE RULES
http://tinyurl.com/wdSiteRules
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
Motivational Quotes
Anyone have any favorites? The Calvin Coolidge quote I have on my desk about persistence utterly failed to motivate me in 2010 and needs replacing.
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anlari (8640 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
Is there a way to colour Crete / Sardinia?
Is there?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Dec 10 UTC
This Time On Philosophy Weekly: Picard And Sisko Argue Ethics--Ends vs. Means!
We started to have a debate about this in the last topical post, so I thought I'd give it the full attention it deserves, since it IS one of greatest dilemmas in all of ethical thought and conduct. And, luckily enough we have two GREAT advocates for the opposing positions: Captain Jean-Luc Picard and Captain Benjamin Sisko! ;) So, as a fun end of the year discussion, if ends DO justify the means, to what extent, and if they DON'T...then what IS justifiable?
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Dan Wang (1194 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
Gunboat 40 points PPSC anonymous 24 hour phases
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peterwiggin (15158 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
School of War Winter 2011 Opening DIscussion
There's no reason we can't all learn something while we wait for the first game to start.
peterwiggin (15158 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
Here's a chance to help your Dean out!

After an approximately one year absence, I returned to online Diplomacy at the end of the summer. Since then I have learned some things about my game and made a few observations about the game in general.

1. Although it can be difficult to determine when exactly each phase ends and the next begins, most games go through three phases: I will call them the opening, midgame, and endgame.
2. There are three skills that go into being good at this game: tactics, strategy, and negotiations. Strategy is looking at the map, comparing it to how you would like it to look, and figuring out a way to get there. Tactics and negotiations help accomplish your strategy. Tactics is the practice of using your units well. Negotiations is the practice of convincing others to use their units in a way that is to your benefit.
3. While all three skills are obviously necessary in all three phases, the opening tends to be negotiations-dominated, the midgame tends to be strategy-dominated, and the endgame tends to be tactics-dominated.
4. Looking back over my games, I find that I tend to do well in openings and endgames. I very rarely get attacked right away, and if I make it to the end-game, I can usually maximize my result (solo, smallest possible draw). However, I tend to lose my way in the midgame, which is when I tend to lose my way. I think this is because my negotiations and tactics are strong, but I have trouble applying them to a coherent, long-term strategy, especially in the middle of the game.

My question then is: how do you guys formulate strategy and then apply your tactics and negotiations to accomplishing it? More specifically, do you guys have any advice for a guy who does well at the beginning and ends of games but tends to fall apart in the middle phase? Feel free to discuss any of my above statements as well.
Eklade (838 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
I find that in the middle game, as far as my limited knowledge goes, people tend to get briefly "burnt out" and recoil from their initial efforts, meaning that the game dips into a slight lull. For me, this is when I usually take advantage of whoever is participating in the lull. It doesn't always work out this way, but something that I find that helps me in the middle game is briefly touching base with everyone on the map, as if it was the opening phase again, to try and suss out any potential stabs, betrayals, alliances forming etc. People, (at least at my level of play) tend to relax and feel comfortable in their preformed alliances, or the general direction of the map in the middle game. Seize the moment!
peterwiggin (15158 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
So basically, don't get complacent or give up! And take advantage of the ones that do.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
02 Jan 11 UTC
In answer to the question. I am good at the mid and endgame as i am good at strategy and tactics, but my negotiations are not the best so I get attacked early on a lot.

To formulate a strategy, look for the realistic target locations you need. Which ally would suit you best, which one is better to stab now. Don't look for the easy close centre. look for the further away more useful one. Destroy enemy armies if possible, rebuilds are further away. Help out your best allies over taking a short term gain if possible. A support hold instead of taking a territory can make him a more loyal ally.
peterwiggin (15158 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
@Riot
We should work together. I'll start the games, and then you can take over partway through. How do you determine realistic target locations and decide which allies are best and whom to stab?
uclabb (589 D)
02 Jan 11 UTC
To me at least, the difficulty with the midgame is feeling like there is less to say, so I try to actively keep up conversations with people as inevitably people work with those they have talked to more. Centurian once said (and I read) that you aren't done talking until you know everyone's moves. He said this in particular vis a vis the first year, but it often can be true in the middle as well.

Having said that, I have been garbage lately as I haven't had time to log on as much as I would like.

My question for the community would be how the heck do you play Russia (for a solo)? I have only ever really been successful basically forfeiting one of my fronts and playing one side. How do you stay active on both fronts without having four people come after you?
Baskineli (100 D(B))
02 Jan 11 UTC
When I play, I tend to do choices that open opportunities and possibilities, and not close them. I tend to disagree that the mid-game is strategy-dominated.

I tend to divide my games into 3 phases, but a bit differently.

Phase I: 1901.
Yes, one year only. This is the year where I try to make the most friends, while making sure that all my friends have enemies. For those that didn't read Frank Herbert's Dune, read it. Here is the quote from Dune that guides me through 1901 and into phase II: "A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct."

Phase II: Status-quo.
This is where I see how are other players are doing, and making sure that nobody is doing too good. I use the seeds that I have planted in 1901 to create new cooperations against the leading players, trying to maintain a balance of power. In this phase I make sure that one of my neighbours has as many enemies as possible, so I can feed of him.

Phase III - Win or Draw?
This is the phase where I am trying to make others who trust me to engage into a battle with all what they've got. If they fall for it, they are ready to get stabbed and I will try to solo. If they aren't, then I will most likely draw.
Peter, my problem is the mid-game as well. I think that all of us here agree that you talk with everybody in the first year and feel them out for possible alliances and such. I usually try to be part of a triple against a single player and get them eliminated within the first 2 or 3 years. After that player is eliminated is where I usually screw up. A lot of the time I end up as the player with the most centers, get attacked on all fronts and am unable to keep my alliances.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
02 Jan 11 UTC
Well what you really want to do is minimise your fronts if possible. Get your enemies fighting each other, if there's a big alliance spread distrust, I like to use the Global tab to openly question any move they make that is slightly weird as if its in the private tabs they tend to put it down to you stirring trouble (which you are)

Realistic target locations - Don't go for an SC you're sure to lose next year if instead you can take a tactical location that provides more options and will help secure more SC's (For instance, Tyrolia over Venice).

Think where your enemies are likely to move, not just this turn but where you think they're going to head. Surround enemy armies or fleets and trap or destroy them if desirable. France won't gain much with a build in Paris while you're taking Berlin from it and a French army surrounded in Tuscany is easier to deal with than a French army defending Marseilles.


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butterhead (90 D)
01 Jan 11 UTC
Good old Classic game...
Lets get back to the Basics of Diplomacy...
12 hour phases, 5 D, Anon... just a regular map...
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=45838
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ComradeGrumbles (0 DX)
02 Jan 11 UTC
Attack! by Eagle Games... any other players out there?
Are there any other players out there who enjoy Eagle Games' "Attack!"? I was wondering if anyone had any cool adjusted house rules for it.
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