and only allow three players per team to help balance it out

I was organizing so BenGuin could start it. I felt he had earned the right to start the game as it was his idea. Please review the thread so you can see just what I'm talking about...

My post from last Tues, Jun 15...

Established Rules and Players as of this moment.

1) That there 3 official teams, team leaders being England, Russia, and Germany.

2) That the other four players may apply in private to be included on the team. If the team leader agrees, he will announce in global chat that the applicant is now on the team. The applicant will confirm. If he denies, he is not a member of the team.

3) That, if a team leader is about to be eliminated, the team internally elects a new team member and the old team leader declares him on global. The other team members then confirm. If any deny, it does not go through. However if consensus cannot be reached and the old team leader is eliminated, it automatically defaults to the team member with the most SCs at the time of the old team leader's defeat.

4) That, when having joined a team, members cannot leave until one full year after their joining. (i.e., If France joins with England in Fall 1901, he must remain on England's team THROUGH Fall 1902, only on the Spring 1902 turn can he now be hostile toward England.)

5) That obligations of team membership include:
a) Never supporting the moves or holds of units outside the team unless those units belong to an independent, undeclared power.
b) Never moving against a team member in hostility (Never taking his SCs and never attacking his positions)
c) Taking part in all team votes, and not obstructing team efforts in any way, including by not moving. If a dispute has occurred, it can only manifest itself once the team member is legally able to leave the team
d) Never passing any information to other players outside the team that the team members did not authorize being passed

6) That any of the above obligations can be circumvented if all team members agree that it was acceptable on global chat after the move has occurred. Team members MUST make certain that such moves are acceptable to their team mates BEFORE such moves occur, and if they are not they MUST NOT make the moves. This will be enforced on the honor system.

7) That victory is declared when only one team remains, and that all members of said team are obliged to draw the game immediately following the defeat of the last non-team member.




Players
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BenGuin (I would hope)
Draugnar (that's *me*!)
Thucy (articulated the rules for us)
Rule Britannia
champ11228
De Gaulle
Gamemaster101

Rule #8 was removed by common agreement. Non-aligned nations are free to negotiate with any one.

What would happen if Russia and England worked together? Or was that NOT allowed? don't see anything there about that

Do we seven still wish to play this variant without the usurper punk thieves? If so, chime in and I'll start it with a password and game ID PMd to each player so no thieving asshat punks can get in.

Yes i do- so please organise one and send a PM to each of us?

The three teams can never work together. That was established early in the thread, but not in the rules as Thucy transcribed them. Consider teamwork between teams as verboten.

When I hear from the others, I will do so.

ok cool

I'd be willing to do it

created a new one gameID=31919... PM me if you want to know the password

i'm in for a second one

anyway... i wrote the rules to allow for cooperation among teams... in the same way that there is "cooperation" among the 7 powers in normal games.


do you see what i mean?

say there is a giant England-France-Italy-Austria team.

Then there is a Russia-Turkey team and Germany is alone.

Germany can work with Russia-Turkey against the English team, but can also "stab"

So too can a non-team. Say Italy was not part of any team. Italy could work with the English team against Russia-Turkey, but stab quickly as well.

The stab and cooperations all occur as they would in a normal game, that is, informally and fluidly.

The *teams* exist to, for one, make things a bit different, and two, to prevent such stabs from happening quickly.

So in the original example, Turkey can stab Russia... but he has to wait until his time has expired, and before the attack must announce he has left the Russian team.

I like the additionaly possibility of two small teams standing up to the mega team. That seems fair. After all, I doubt that a small team will help the mega team eliminate the other small team as the small team would then be next to die, giving the mega team the win.

Also, keep in mind that as team membership is FLEXIBLE, one can easily convince people to jump ship and leave the large team.

Especially if the end is near and only one non-affiliated player remains. The prospect of a five-way draw is sure to make at least one team member decide to exit, and he will likely take others with him. Even if the other two original team members are eliminated, remember that team leadership follows a succession system. Only if no one is on the team at the time of the elimination is that team truly "eliminated."

I PM'd you, BenGuin